Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism Documentary

[wize fool]

So is gravity not 100% true? Evolution is backed by more scientific evidence and research than the "theory" of gravity. Do you know anthing about paleontology? I suggest you learn about genetics.

Disprove my creator? You are the one who assumes a conclusion with no real evidence. No matter what facts are presented to you, you are going to rationalize it to fit your belief system. I on the other hand am open to whatever facts may come my way.

Religion is nothing but man-made tall tales. An attempt to explain the natural world with no knowledge. I don't believe anything men say nowadays, let alone some IGNORANT FOOL FROM 2000 YEARS AGO!

You seem to be getting tense. All I've done is ask you 2 questions today. I apologize if those questions offended you.

I just wanted to know how evolution disproves your Creator. No need to get upset.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Im not upset, i just feel like you ask invalid questions.

You jump to a conclustion that there's a creator. What real proof do you have of this? Besides man-written documents?

But you actually hit the nail on the head, evolution has nothing to do with creation. Its just an explaination of life today. Not how it started...

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

how can you even have something called creation without there being a creator?


its like saying something is engineered without there being an engineer




what came first the chicken or the egg?

 

[wize fool]

Im not upset, i just feel like you ask invalid questions.

You jump to a conclustion that there's a creator. What real proof do you have of this? Besides man-written documents?

But you actually hit the nail on the head, evolution has nothing to do with creation. Its just an explaination of life today. Not how it started...

Asking for physical proof of God, that's the invalid question.

My question is valid and you answered it. Evolution has nothing to do with creation. There is no dichotomy between the two. So evolution can be a fact, a scientific theory, which is a type of theory, whatever. You just said yourself it has nothing to do with creationism so it can't possibly be any sort of evidence against the existence of The Creator.

Proof enough for me is my own existence. I didn't cause myself to exist. I can't exist from "nothing." The only other option is "something." I call this "something" Allah.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Asking for proof of a belief you hinge your entire existence on is not invalid to me. Just believing in something without evidence is not something I am able to do. Especially knowing the nature of mankind. I mean have you ever met a pathological liar before? lol

I dont think that just because I exist, means I was magically poofed into existence by a deity. I believe eventually science will prove life can be nothing more then the result of complex chemistry. Maybe life's inevitable for all we know.

Scientists Create First Self-Replicating Synthetic Life
Scientists Create First Self-Replicating Synthetic Life | Wired Science | Wired.com

 

[wize fool]

Asking for proof of a belief you hinge your entire existence on is not invalid to me. Just believing in something without evidence is not something I am able to do. Especially knowing the nature of mankind. I mean have you ever met a pathological liar before? lol

I dont think that just because I exist, means I was magically poofed into existence by a deity. I believe eventually science will prove life can be nothing more then the result of complex chemistry. Maybe life's inevitable for all we know.

Scientists Create First Self-Replicating Synthetic Life
Scientists Create First Self-Replicating Synthetic Life | Wired Science | Wired.com

Asking for physical proof of the non-physical is invalid.

What do pathological liars have to do with anything?

You don't believe you were "magically poofed" (even though no one said anything about you being "magically poofed") into existence by a deity but you are ready to believe you were "magically poofed" into existence by nothing? This confuses me.

I don't understand your links. You are arguing against creationism by showing scientists trying to replicate creation?

What is your definition of God?

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

Asking for proof of a belief you hinge your entire existence on is not invalid to me. Just believing in something without evidence is not something I am able to do. Especially knowing the nature of mankind. I mean have you ever met a pathological liar before? lol

I dont think that just because I exist, means I was magically poofed into existence by a deity. I believe eventually science will prove life can be nothing more then the result of complex chemistry. Maybe life's inevitable for all we know.

Scientists Create First Self-Replicating Synthetic Life
Scientists Create First Self-Replicating Synthetic Life | Wired Science | Wired.com

how are they creating anything when they are using materials that already exist?


so arrogant

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

That link was just to show you the direction science is headed. Eventually it may be possible to proove life started naturally without a deity. Providing proof of a deity on the other hand, is and will always be impossible.

I bring up pathological liars because its my belief that all religions are started by pathological liars, schizophrenics, or people just looking to take advantage and gain power. You cannot believe most things people say, especially strangers. That is life. If I told you I had beachfront property in Arizona, you would just believe it without proof? Sure you know Arizona is a desert, but what if you didnt know that? wouldnt you need proof that my statement is true before you gave me your money?

Therefore, asking for proof of a god is not invalid, people live and die for these beliefs, how can you just believe with no proof?

definition of god? we would be gods to primitive cavemen. does that make us gods, no. God is a matter of perspective. If a civilization millions of years more advanced than us were to contact us now, we would surely mistake them for gods. does that make then the creator of the universe, no. Then of course who created your creator?

I don't believe life was "poofed" into existence. I believe it occurred naturally, just like everything else in the observable universe. Believing we were created by a deity amounts to nothing more than a belief in magic. Just because the universe exists does not mean it was created by a supernatural being.

 

[wize fool]

That link was just to show you the direction science is headed. Eventually it may be possible to proove life started naturally without a deity. Providing proof of a deity on the other hand, is and will always be impossible.

I bring up pathological liars because its my belief that all religions are started by pathological liars, schizophrenics, or people just looking to take advantage and gain power. You cannot believe most things people say, especially strangers. That is life. If I told you I had beachfront property in Arizona, you would just believe it without proof? Sure you know Arizona is a desert, but what if you didnt know that? wouldnt you need proof that my statement is true before you gave me your money?

Therefore, asking for proof of a god is not invalid, people live and die for these beliefs, how can you just believe with no proof?

definition of god? we would be gods to primitive cavemen. does that make us gods, no. God is a matter of perspective. If a civilization millions of years more advanced than us were to contact us now, we would surely mistake them for gods. does that make then the creator of the universe, no. Then of course who created your creator?

I don't believe life was "poofed" into existence. I believe it occurred naturally, just like everything else in the observable universe. Believing we were created by a deity amounts to nothing more than a belief in magic. Just because the universe exists does not mean it was created by a supernatural being.

How can it be possible to prove/disprove in one direction and not the other?

I asked your definition of God to establish a critical understanding and that's that you don't understand God.

"We would be gods to primitive cavemen"? What ever do you mean by this? You think God is simply anything more advanced?

So it's much more accurate for you to say you don't understand God than to say you don't believe in God.

There is only one God. God is The Creator. The Creator of all. Not just "smarter" than us. He created us. Who created God? That's another invalid question. God is The Creator of the creation, not a part of the creation. By definition God is not created.


And again, how is belief in a deity magic, but to believe the universe spawned from absolutely nothing rational? If anything, your side sounds more like magic.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

I understand perfectly what the definition of god is. What you think is god, is nothing but a myth to me. thats where the difference comes from. I was just giving you an example of how skewed the definitions can be.

I never said the universe spawned from nothing. I dont claim to know where the universe came from. Maybe its always been here, just like your deity. Maybe its only one of an infinite amount of universes, with an infinite amount of deities.

If a good explaination becomes available, i will be open to the facts. and i will adjust my view of the universe accordingly. What will you do when new facts present themself?

 

[wize fool]

You don't "understand perfectly" if you say things like "we would be gods to primitive cavemen." That's, in fact, not understanding at all.

So far you've asked me for physical evidence of the non-physical, who created The Creator and now facts for something that is faith based either way. Whether you believe or not is still your belief.

No wonder you lack answers, you continue to ask the wrong questions.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Its not hard to understand the definition of god, my mind is perfectly capable of grasping the concept.

God (Websters) - the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe.

How can anyone not understand that?

The problem isnt me asking the wrong questions, it's you not asking ANY questions.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Its not hard to understand the definition of god, my mind is perfectly capable of grasping the concept.

God (Websters) - the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe.

How can anyone not understand that?

The problem isnt me asking the wrong questions, it's you not asking ANY questions.

Cliche. Sounds good but I warn you, you are dealing with a learned man. Perhaps you assume every creationist has blind faith? I assure you this is not the case.

You have already proved you don't fully grasp the concept of God. You said

we would be gods to primitive cavemen.

Those were your words. You are comparing God to human beings. This shows a gross misunderstanding of your true Creator. Why would The Creator be in the creation? No one who understands God would make such an asinine mistake of confusing any human beings with God.

You are showing firsthand that you clearly don't understand the concept, regardless of your claims of the opposite.

 

[Tom]

Sperm and egg are my creator bro.

I'm a product of biology, nothing divine caused my existence.

Don't know about u tho bruh, u a test tube baby?

 

[wize fool]

Sperm and egg are my creator bro.

I'm a product of biology, nothing divine caused my existence.

Don't know about u tho bruh, u a test tube baby?

Now let man but think from what he is created!
He is created from a drop emitted-
Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:

Allah is greater than your dad's sperm bro.