For Competitors Only .:. The Official 2017 Miami Heat Off-Season Thread
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Depends on what we looking for. If we planning on moving TJ or nervous about Waiters resigning, I'd go something like Ferguson or even Bacon.
If we're looking for a 4, I'd grab John Collins, OG, or Giles for upside and growth.
Edit: I also wouldn't mind Donavan Mitchell. I think grooming him to be our Dion-Lite will be great and his physical gifts plus defensive intensity would be great with us.
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He Who Posts Well
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Either shorty on the far left & far right. It's really early though. I have both in my top 10.
number21
Strive for rulership not equality, black man.
OG at the 4? Can he really play there?
number21
Strive for rulership not equality, black man.
I'm thinking it will be TJ Leaf, John Collins, or Giles. I'm hoping we think about Isaiah Hartenstein.
Captain Crunch
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Riley might finesse him
Armchair Militant
Stay woke
It would be best if they got these deals done quickly. GMs in this league love making ridiculous offers.
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Heat, seeking another skilled young big man, quietly summons three interesting prospects
BY BARRY JACKSON
The Heat, looking for another skilled young big man, quietly flew in at least four interesting draft prospects to team headquarters for private workouts this week, according to multiple sources.
The Heat summoned Baylor 6-10 power forward Johnathan Motley, Indiana 6-10 center Thomas Bryant, and UCLA 6-10 power forward/center Ike Anigbogu.
As we reported here Wednesday, the Heat also had California 6-10 power forward Ivan Rabb in for a workout.
Bryant was matched against Anibogu in the workout, and Motley competed against Rabb.
Aside from Rabb, none of the other three are projected to go as high as the Heat’s pick at No. 14, Miami’s only selection in the June 22 draft. But it’s possible the Heat could trade for a second-round pick if it becomes particularly enamored with a player that’s still available after the first round.
ESPN’s Chad Ford projects Anigbogu to go between 17 and 35 in the 60-player draft, Bryant to be plucked between 25 and 50 and Motley to be selected between 25 and 40.
Motley, pictured above, averaged 17.3 points, 9.9 rebounds, 2.3 assists and 1.1 blocks as a junior at Baylor last season. He shot 52.1 percent from the field but just 9 for 33 on threes. At 22, he’s older than many of the draft prospects.
“He has all the physical tools NBA teams are looking for in a power forward, with terrific size, athleticism and length,” Ford said on ESPN.com. “His jumper is the major sticking point for teams -- he shot 27 percent from 3 on just 33 attempts as a junior. He's in the Nos. 25-40 range.”
Bryant, 19, averaged 12.6 points, 6.6 rebounds and 1.5 blocks as a sophomore at Indiana last season, shooting 51.9 percent from the field and 23 for 60 on threes (38.3 percent).
“Bryant had a bit of a disappointing sophomore season for Indiana,” Ford said. “On the plus side, he showed off more of his shooting range, hitting 23 3s at a 38 percent clip. That's appealing to scouts. On the downside, his 2-point percentage plummeted, and his below-the-rim post game has scouts worried that Bryant's game might not fully translate to the NBA. He should go somewhere between Nos. 25-50 in this year's draft.”
Anigbogu, 18, averaged only 13 minutes per game in his only season at UCLA, which accounts for his modest averages (4.7 points, 4.0 rebounds). But Anigbogu, who shot 56.4 percent from the field, also averaged 1.3 blocks in that limited playing time, which averages to nearly four blocks per game in 39 minutes.
Miami is intrigued by another UCLA player, skilled-shooting power forward T.J. Leaf, who is projected for the Heat’s range.
“Anigbogu came off the bench for UCLA as a freshman and played limited minutes, but NBA teams see a ton of raw potential in him, especially as a rebounder and shot-blocker,” Ford said. “He already has an NBA body and a great motor; now it's about picking up some offensive skills. Although another year at UCLA could certainly benefit his development and draft stock, most teams have him ranked in the Nos. 17-35 range.”
The Heat likely will add at least two developmental big men during its summer program, either through the draft or after it.
Center Hassan Whiteside is under contract for three more seasons, but backup center Willie Reed is expected to opt out of a contract that would pay him $1.8 million next season.
The Heat very much wants to keep free agent power forward James Johnson, and Johnson wants to stay, but the unknown variable is whether Johnson will attract an enormous offer beyond what the Heat is willing to pay. Teams can make offers to other teams’ free agents beginning July 1.
Power forwards Luke Babbitt and Udonis Haslem are also free agents, though Haslem has indicated a desire to return to the Heat, and president Pat Riley has said he will be welcomed back.
Power forward Josh McRoberts this week opted in to a contract for $6 million next season, but the Heat is expected to try to trade him. Miami also has the option of releasing him and spreading his remaining cap hit over three seasons, at $2 million per year.
Small forward Justise Winslow, returning from January shoulder surgery, also can play power forward.
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So far it looks like the Heat are targeting a big with the 14th pick. It's most likely because they would probably have to overpay to keep Willie Reed. If you don't want to read the article, the names of the prospects that the Heat worked out are Johnathan Motley, Thomas Bryant, Ivan Rabb, and Ike Anigbogu. Of the four, Rabb is the only one that is ranked around the 14th pick.
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BY BARRY JACKSON
The Heat, looking for another skilled young big man, quietly flew in at least four interesting draft prospects to team headquarters for private workouts this week, according to multiple sources.
The Heat summoned Baylor 6-10 power forward Johnathan Motley, Indiana 6-10 center Thomas Bryant, and UCLA 6-10 power forward/center Ike Anigbogu.
As we reported here Wednesday, the Heat also had California 6-10 power forward Ivan Rabb in for a workout.
Bryant was matched against Anibogu in the workout, and Motley competed against Rabb.
Aside from Rabb, none of the other three are projected to go as high as the Heat’s pick at No. 14, Miami’s only selection in the June 22 draft. But it’s possible the Heat could trade for a second-round pick if it becomes particularly enamored with a player that’s still available after the first round.
ESPN’s Chad Ford projects Anigbogu to go between 17 and 35 in the 60-player draft, Bryant to be plucked between 25 and 50 and Motley to be selected between 25 and 40.
Motley, pictured above, averaged 17.3 points, 9.9 rebounds, 2.3 assists and 1.1 blocks as a junior at Baylor last season. He shot 52.1 percent from the field but just 9 for 33 on threes. At 22, he’s older than many of the draft prospects.
“He has all the physical tools NBA teams are looking for in a power forward, with terrific size, athleticism and length,” Ford said on ESPN.com. “His jumper is the major sticking point for teams -- he shot 27 percent from 3 on just 33 attempts as a junior. He's in the Nos. 25-40 range.”
Bryant, 19, averaged 12.6 points, 6.6 rebounds and 1.5 blocks as a sophomore at Indiana last season, shooting 51.9 percent from the field and 23 for 60 on threes (38.3 percent).
“Bryant had a bit of a disappointing sophomore season for Indiana,” Ford said. “On the plus side, he showed off more of his shooting range, hitting 23 3s at a 38 percent clip. That's appealing to scouts. On the downside, his 2-point percentage plummeted, and his below-the-rim post game has scouts worried that Bryant's game might not fully translate to the NBA. He should go somewhere between Nos. 25-50 in this year's draft.”
Anigbogu, 18, averaged only 13 minutes per game in his only season at UCLA, which accounts for his modest averages (4.7 points, 4.0 rebounds). But Anigbogu, who shot 56.4 percent from the field, also averaged 1.3 blocks in that limited playing time, which averages to nearly four blocks per game in 39 minutes.
Miami is intrigued by another UCLA player, skilled-shooting power forward T.J. Leaf, who is projected for the Heat’s range.
“Anigbogu came off the bench for UCLA as a freshman and played limited minutes, but NBA teams see a ton of raw potential in him, especially as a rebounder and shot-blocker,” Ford said. “He already has an NBA body and a great motor; now it's about picking up some offensive skills. Although another year at UCLA could certainly benefit his development and draft stock, most teams have him ranked in the Nos. 17-35 range.”
The Heat likely will add at least two developmental big men during its summer program, either through the draft or after it.
Center Hassan Whiteside is under contract for three more seasons, but backup center Willie Reed is expected to opt out of a contract that would pay him $1.8 million next season.
The Heat very much wants to keep free agent power forward James Johnson, and Johnson wants to stay, but the unknown variable is whether Johnson will attract an enormous offer beyond what the Heat is willing to pay. Teams can make offers to other teams’ free agents beginning July 1.
Power forwards Luke Babbitt and Udonis Haslem are also free agents, though Haslem has indicated a desire to return to the Heat, and president Pat Riley has said he will be welcomed back.
Power forward Josh McRoberts this week opted in to a contract for $6 million next season, but the Heat is expected to try to trade him. Miami also has the option of releasing him and spreading his remaining cap hit over three seasons, at $2 million per year.
Small forward Justise Winslow, returning from January shoulder surgery, also can play power forward.
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So far it looks like the Heat are targeting a big with the 14th pick. It's most likely because they would probably have to overpay to keep Willie Reed. If you don't want to read the article, the names of the prospects that the Heat worked out are Johnathan Motley, Thomas Bryant, Ivan Rabb, and Ike Anigbogu. Of the four, Rabb is the only one that is ranked around the 14th pick.
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954UAlreadyknow
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I think Ivan Rabb can be a good player
Don't know much about the other guys
Don't know much about the other guys
Makavalli
Sinister is a system
I know everybody big on keeping waiters and JJ but we really need to keep reed too because he is a decent defender and makes it so hassan doesnt have to play 40 min or can hold it down when he gets in foul trouble. Now he chose to come back because he loves the ORG even tho he knew he would be hassan's backup so i think if we give him a multi yr deal he'll stay put unless he now feel he wants to start or get more PT
He Who Posts Well
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More draft stuff with prospects likely to go in the second round or undrafted. We are about to be the best defensive team in the league 
College players with defensive reputations continue to intrigue Miami Heat
Oregon’s Chris Boucher blocks the shot of Cal’s Jabari Bird during a game this season. (Photo by Steve Dykes/Getty Images)
As the Miami Heat continue to work out players they could take 14th overall or in the second round (if they acquire a pick) in the upcoming draft, they clearly targeted a certain type of player among those they interviewed this month at the NBA Draft Combine.
Even before scheduling private workouts in Miami, the Heat and vice president of player personnel Chet Kammerer interviewed several players in Chicago. Of those, at least six were named among the top defensive players in their league, including four of the five members of the Pac-12’s All-Defensive team.
Two players the Heat spoke to were their league’s Defensive Player of the Year.
And this does not include Indiana’s OG Anunoby, who also interviewed with the Heat in Chicago. The 6-foot-8, Anunoby is an elite defensive player whose skills project to the NBA when it comes to defending players on the perimeter and in the post. Anunoby played just 16 games last season before tearing his ACL in January was not named to any All-Big Ten teams. He is projected as a mid-first round pick.
The following list of players the Heat interviewed who carry a reputation for their defense mostly are projected to be taken in the second round or go undrafted:
Kadeem Allen, 6-2, 192, PG, Stanford: Member of Pac-12 All-Defensive team who has good length, is athletic and physical enough to defend NBA guards. Guarded several positions in college.
Jordan Bell, 6-8.5, 224, PF, Oregon: Named Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year for his shot-blocking and rim-protecting ability. He was 25th in the country with 2.26 blocks per game. Very athletic and was successful guarding bigger, stronger players.
Chris Boucher, 6-9.5, 182, PF, Oregon: Two-time member of Pac-12 All-Defense team who finished 15th nationally with 2.55 blocks per game. He has an impressive 7-4 wingspan.
Josh Hart, 6-5, 209, SG, Villanova: Shared Big East Defensive Player of the Year honors. Averaged 1.6 steals per game and though not an elite athlete is very intelligent on the floor.
Sindarius Thornwell, 6-5, 212, SG, South Carolina: Member of SEC All-Defensive team and hard worker who became more of an all-around player this year by improving his offense. But always known as a tough, hard-nosed defender.
Derrick White, 6-4.5, 190, SG/SF, Colorado: Member of Pac-12 All-Defensive team in his only season at Colorado after transferring from Division II Colorado Springs. He is instinctual and showed an ability to block shots and steal the ball.
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College players with defensive reputations continue to intrigue Miami Heat
Oregon’s Chris Boucher blocks the shot of Cal’s Jabari Bird during a game this season. (Photo by Steve Dykes/Getty Images)
As the Miami Heat continue to work out players they could take 14th overall or in the second round (if they acquire a pick) in the upcoming draft, they clearly targeted a certain type of player among those they interviewed this month at the NBA Draft Combine.
Even before scheduling private workouts in Miami, the Heat and vice president of player personnel Chet Kammerer interviewed several players in Chicago. Of those, at least six were named among the top defensive players in their league, including four of the five members of the Pac-12’s All-Defensive team.
Two players the Heat spoke to were their league’s Defensive Player of the Year.
And this does not include Indiana’s OG Anunoby, who also interviewed with the Heat in Chicago. The 6-foot-8, Anunoby is an elite defensive player whose skills project to the NBA when it comes to defending players on the perimeter and in the post. Anunoby played just 16 games last season before tearing his ACL in January was not named to any All-Big Ten teams. He is projected as a mid-first round pick.
The following list of players the Heat interviewed who carry a reputation for their defense mostly are projected to be taken in the second round or go undrafted:
Kadeem Allen, 6-2, 192, PG, Stanford: Member of Pac-12 All-Defensive team who has good length, is athletic and physical enough to defend NBA guards. Guarded several positions in college.
Jordan Bell, 6-8.5, 224, PF, Oregon: Named Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year for his shot-blocking and rim-protecting ability. He was 25th in the country with 2.26 blocks per game. Very athletic and was successful guarding bigger, stronger players.
Chris Boucher, 6-9.5, 182, PF, Oregon: Two-time member of Pac-12 All-Defense team who finished 15th nationally with 2.55 blocks per game. He has an impressive 7-4 wingspan.
Josh Hart, 6-5, 209, SG, Villanova: Shared Big East Defensive Player of the Year honors. Averaged 1.6 steals per game and though not an elite athlete is very intelligent on the floor.
Sindarius Thornwell, 6-5, 212, SG, South Carolina: Member of SEC All-Defensive team and hard worker who became more of an all-around player this year by improving his offense. But always known as a tough, hard-nosed defender.
Derrick White, 6-4.5, 190, SG/SF, Colorado: Member of Pac-12 All-Defensive team in his only season at Colorado after transferring from Division II Colorado Springs. He is instinctual and showed an ability to block shots and steal the ball.
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BushidoBrown
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I keep seeing this blake griffin to the heat BS on the heat fan IG accts 
I dont wanna waste mad cap space on this nikka
He cool but not for no max or close to max money foh
I dont wanna waste mad cap space on this nikka
He cool but not for no max or close to max money foh
