Religion/Spirituality For atheists: What would God have to do to prove to you that he's real?

[Everythingg]

FTFY.

Sure. Call them gullible. But if they make it to heaven instead of being erased from existence or even worse punished in a burning fire, Im sure they'll accept being called "gullible" by a person that met one of the other 2 possible consequences of non-belief

 

[noon]

Sure. Call them gullible. But if they make it to heaven instead of being erased from existence or even worse punished in a burning fire, Im sure they'll accept being called "gullible" by a person that met one of the other 2 possible consequences of non-belief

Or, what if one of the other religions are correct?

 

[Everythingg]

Or, what if one of the other religions are correct?

What other religion worships the Uncreated God?

 

[noon]

What other religion worships the Uncreated God?

Well "uncreated" isn't proven so that puts your religion at the same level as all the others. But if you're talking about the Abrahamic god we're still muddled between Catholic, Evangelists, Islamic and so on. Rules of one branch don't necessarily save you from the hell of another.

 

[saint25225]

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[Everythingg]

I see, so corrupt governments are some of the signs your are speaking of for the coming end?.

No just these things COMPOUNDED together. Along with the earth's condition worsening because of our use of oil.

If these things are signs then this might explain why so many Christians including yourself believe the end is always gonna happen in their life time. From a historical prospective I can't think of a time period when governments didn't run a muck in different countries? The united states does it now and before them it was the British, Germans, Japanese, Spanish, french, Romans and Persians. Also i'm sure they told their constituents one thing and did another. So to answer your question, yes there are tons of things humanity needs to work on morally. Like most things progress takes time and has to go through the painful trail and error process.

Ok so you turn on the TV and does it seem like we're progressing? Sure technologically we are. But with that progress of tech we've been degressing morally. Im sure you see this with the youth no?

Do you think we are living in the worst times in recorded human history?

Technologically no. Morally yes.

I personally can't think of another time period I would rather live in from what I seen in the past. Do you think the only solution is supernatural? also if you do not think we are living in the worst times, why do you think your deity didn't bring the end in those other times in history?

Mercy...

oh yea united nations, I think coming out of world war 2 it was a good idea to try and keep peace and prevent another world war but as we seen from the Iraq invasion military power has the final say.

So lets progress the situation hypothetically. Do you think its a positive to have the world ruled by one government? Also take into consideration that this gov't will be composed of gov'ts that do not look out for their people's best interests which is why (as we both concluded) they tell their constituents one thing while doing another. Do you think this would work out to the benefit of mankind?

 

[Everythingg]

Well "uncreated" isn't proven so that puts your religion at the same level as all the others. But if you're talking about the Abrahamic god we're still muddled between Catholic, Evangelists, Islamic and so on. Rules of one branch don't necessarily save you from the hell of another.

I was wondering, can you point to a religion that worships an Uncreated God? The Greeks didnt. The Egyptians didnt. The Sumerians didnt. or maybe Im incorrect. Which is why I asked for your position.

 

[noon]

I was wondering, can you point to a religion that worships an Uncreated God? The Greeks didnt. The Egyptians didnt. The Sumerians didnt. or maybe Im incorrect. Which is why I asked for your position.

You didn't answer my previous question. What if your religion isn't the correct one? What if your sect of Abrahamic religion isn't the correct one?

 

[Everythingg]

You didn't answer my previous question. What if your religion isn't the correct one? What if your sect of Abrahamic religion isn't the correct one?

Just as you didnt answer mine. What other religion worships an Uncreated God? Can you point to one?

 

[noon]

Just as you didnt answer mine. What other religion worships an Uncreated God? Can you point to one?

Yeah but my question came first.

 

[Everythingg]

Yeah but my question came first.

You're correct my brother. Now explain, how can another religion be correct if they do not worship an Uncreated God but instead worship things that were created like the sun, moon, stars, planets etc....?

This is why I asked what other religion had a God that was uncreated? From my research, other gods were born, or the things mentioned in my question.

 

[noon]

You're correct my brother. Now explain, how can another religion be correct if they do not worship an Uncreated God but instead worship things that were created like the sun, moon, stars, planets etc....?

This is why I asked what other religion had a God that was uncreated? From my research, other gods were born, or the things mentioned in my question.

So what's Vishnu? What's Shiva? What's your guy's name? Jehovah? Allah? God of the Evangelist rules or God of the Catholic rules or...

 

[tmonster]

Technologically no. Morally yes.

Da fukk? We may be living in the most moral time in history

 

[Everythingg]

So what's Vishnu? What's Shiva?

Both images.

What's your guy's name? Jehovah? Allah? God of the Evangelist rules or God of the Catholic rules or...

I dont know what you mean by my guy. But all of those (though incorrect names) point to the God of Abraham.

 

[Everythingg]

Da fukk? We may be living in the most moral time in history

How do you figure?