Religion/Spirituality For atheists: What would God have to do to prove to you that he's real?

[Everythingg]

As they keep saying.

Of course. Its always going to get closer to that day when God starts over if no one is repenting.

You mean like blood from a slaughterhouse accidentally leaking into a nearby river?

Nah. I meant the world in general. Not to mention blood from a slaughterhouse having to be so great to make a whole river turn red. Nonetheless, I remember I've discussed with you before and this is what I got. Avoidance. Its like you dont want to even acknowledge anything Im discussing. So thats fine. Put your faith in yourself and see if that saves you from what your brethren have instore for you or your descendants...

 

[tmonster]

Joel 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...april-15th-beginning-rare-series-of-eclipses/

Revelation 16:4
The third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...way-turns-red-overnight-like-horror-film.html

Sure. Just as what you just said was being said years and years before you:

2nd Peter 3:4
They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."

Isaiah 5:19
to those who say, "Let God hurry; let him hasten his work so we may see it. The plan of the Holy One of Israel-- let it approach, let it come into view, so we may know it."

Jeremiah 17:15
They keep saying to me, "Where is the word of the LORD? Let it now be fulfilled!"
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But truly I tell you, that day will not be a gracious one my friend. The question is, why dont you believe in God my brethren?

Matthew 24:36
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

If this was said and this was also said:

1 Thessolonians 5:2
For you know quite well that the day of the Lord's return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night.

Why would you give homie props for making false prophecies and misleading people INTENTIONALLY (or to a smaller possibility, unintentionally)?

 

[saint25225]

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[Everythingg]

I wasnt trying to change your mind friend. You said This One? And I showed you which one I was referring to.

 

[Everythingg]

Lol I don't but unfortunately hundreds of his followers did which clearly shows there isn't a lot of requirements to be a pastor. But if your able to read your scriptures and come to that conclusion that NO ONE can know the hour then his followers could have done the same thing so I think they mislead themselves more than anything. But if your constantly looking for the world to end it's easy to fall prey to doomsday preaching.

I agree with this sir. But thats the thing, they DONT read their bible which is why they fall for it. It pretty much goes for every walk of life that some people in that "walk of life" just blindly follow their leaders.

But thwhat signs are you talking about fam? people have been predicting the end of the world for a long time and so far they are 0 for 10000000000000.

You dont see anything messed up with the world? Like morally? Or how certain people running unnamed gov'ts are running amuck in the world in different countries? How certain gov't(s) tell their constituents one thing but do another?

So let me ask, what do you think of the United Nations?

 

[Marvel]

Luke 16:19-31

19 “There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day.

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, who was laid at his gate, full of sores

21 and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died, and was buried.

23 And in hell, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’

25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime received thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and thou art tormented.

26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they who would pass from here to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.’

27 Then he said, ‘I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house,

28 for I have five brethren, that he may testify unto them lest they also come into this place of torment.’

29 Abraham said unto him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’

30 And he said, ‘Nay, father Abraham; but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.’

31 And Abraham said unto him, ‘If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rose from the dead.’”

Jesus with the ether

Please repent my brethren

 

[noon]

Of course. Its always going to get closer to that day when God starts over if no one is repenting.

So you keep saying. Tomorrow never comes. And so on ad infinitum.

Nah. I meant the world in general. Not to mention blood from a slaughterhouse having to be so great to make a whole river turn red. Nonetheless, I remember I've discussed with you before and this is what I got. Avoidance. Its like you dont want to even acknowledge anything Im discussing. So thats fine. Put your faith in yourself and see if that saves you from what your brethren have instore for you or your descendants...

I'm not avoiding anything. You talk utter shyt about magic and witches. Why should I acknowledge the ramblings of a madman? I have no reason to believe your book was authored by a magical being.

 

[NoMayo15]

Who cares if he seemed genuine? He was wrong and mislead people PURPOSELY. If he didnt, what is he doing being a pastor (I assume)? Because a pastor should have known of those verses I posted that tell people that NO ONE knows the day and hour.

Of course one cannot agree on a date. Because it will come unexpectedly. But we can tell when its getting nearer by the signs. Just as you can tell the weather by the signs.

But if Christians exist ... won't there always be someone who expects the return of Christ? Seems like the only way for Christ's return to be unexpected is if there are no people that believe in him, and believe his return would happen one day?

 

[Everythingg]

So you keep saying. Tomorrow never comes. And so on ad infinitum.

You'll see what I was saying about the judgement of God. Just hopefully when you see it, you'll have changed your ways. And same for me...

I'm not avoiding anything. You talk utter shyt about magic and witches. Why should I acknowledge the ramblings of a madman? I have no reason to believe your book was authored by a magical being.

So why waltz your behind into the thread and respond to me when I didnt direct anything your way?

So I ask you about the condition of the world and you go to a slaughterhouse releasing blood into a river? (and somehow releasing enough blood to turn the river into red? ) Yes friend, you can ignore my words. You can ignore my warnings. But you cant ignore the wrath of God. And to those that SEE, they know that time is getting closer and closer. But yea "Im a madman" so dont take the advice if thats where you're freewill leads you. As I told your brethren in this thread (I think) the prophet Daniel said the wise would understand so maybe its not meant for you.

 

[Everythingg]

But if Christians exist ... won't there always be someone who expects the return of Christ? Seems like the only way for Christ's return to be unexpected is if there are no people that believe in him, and believe his return would happen one day?

Well one, people believe in a watered down Jesus that the church teaches.

And two, lets say he returned when you made that post. How many people you think would have been ready? I'd say few out of the billions of christians. For the majority of self proclaimed christians, they would have been caught off guard. Thats why he said that the son of man would come at an hour we do not expect.

 

[noon]

You'll see what I was saying about the judgement of God. Just hopefully when you see it, you'll have changed your ways. And same for me...

So you keep saying. Tomorrow never comes. And so on ad infinitum.

 

[tmonster]

So you keep saying. Tomorrow never comes. And so on ad infinitum.

it's the greatest hustle ever
you never have to show the goods
it's always coming tomorrow
they can't even substantiate what they say they know
but they can make all kinds of promises
regardless of how many times they are proven wrong
at this point they just skirt and dance around any real scrutiny
shyt is fantastical

 

[noon]

So why waltz your behind into the thread and respond to me when I didnt direct anything your way?

So I ask you about the condition of the world and you go to a slaughterhouse releasing blood into a river? (and somehow releasing enough blood to turn the river into red? )

This is my point. All I did was point out a possible explanation. Ask questions. Find out the most reasonable reason for the water being red. Maybe it was the nearby slaughterhouse, maybe nearby rock turns the water red every so often (as happens elsewhere in the world). Don't just scream "the end of the world is coming!" For those are the actions of a rambling madman.

 

[Everythingg]

This is my point. All I did was point out a possible explanation. Ask questions. Find out the most reasonable reason for the water being red. Maybe it was the nearby slaughterhouse, maybe nearby rock turns the water red every so often (as happens elsewhere in the world). Don't just scream "the end of the world is coming!" For those are the actions of a rambling madman.

Revelation didnt say it would happen magically did. So "reasonable" explanations doesnt negate the fact that its happening. At the same time of other anomalies.

So you keep saying. Tomorrow never comes.

Yes. And I'll keep warning brethren of the judgement of God. You might not understand nor take heed, but the wise will.

 

[noon]

Yes. And I'll keep warning brethren of the judgement of God. You might not understand nor take heed, but the gullible will.

FTFY.