"Flower Power In The Jalen Hurts Era" *2021 Philadelphia Eagles Season Thread*

[mikishere]

Jeremiah still has plugs in the building, it's about to be a wild offseason

there's no possible way that this front office won't reach out to seattle if they eventually start feeling out offers for russ with how much they loved him... none

i still think a 33 year old russ has a best QB in the NFL ceiling but we would be extremely foolish to give up 3 2022 1st rounders for him. now a 2022 1st, 2023 1st or 2nd and hurts?

russ is the only QB i wouldn't be livid if they traded for this offseason and that's only if we aren't throwing all our draft capital away

 

[Stop_It_5]

Jimmy is 3 yrs younger & will cost less

Jimmy can also get a team to the SB

We don't need an elite QB in Siri's system...we need a guy w/ some mobility who can attack all 3 levels

If we draft well & sign 2 or 3 good starters, we win the division with Jimmy G

The team that got to a SB with him and has a coach who's system is as QB friendly as it gets just gave up two 1st rounders to acquire his replacement because they know first hand :

- Jimmy's durability is an issue every year
- Jimmy's mistakes are an issue every year (like we saw in that 4th quarter sunday)

Wanting him over a 1st ballot Hall of Famer who's only 33 (check his numbers before he fukked his hand) is crazy. Russ, a new WR2 and devoting the rest of our draft to the defensive side has this team competing for a #1 seed next season.

 

[Controversy]

The team that got to a SB with him and has a coach who's system is as QB friendly as it gets just gave up two 1st rounders to acquire his replacement because they know first hand :

- Jimmy's durability is an issue every year
- Jimmy's mistakes are an issue every year (like we saw in that 4th quarter sunday)

Wanting him over a 1st ballot Hall of Famer who's only 33 (check his numbers before he fukked his hand) is crazy. Russ, a new WR2 and devoting the rest of our draft to the defensive side has this team competing for a #1 seed next season.

Russ requires multiple first rounders, Jimmy doesn't

Did Siri show his system wasn't QB friendly? We ran a limited passing offense all season. We had to run rpo's to throw the ball between the hashes

I don't think Russ wants to be here anyway

A legit WR2 and TE2, I think this is a top 8 offense with Jimmy

 

[Ohene]

there's no possible way that this front office won't reach out to seattle if they eventually start feeling out offers for russ with how much they loved him... none

i still think a 33 year old russ has a best QB in the NFL ceiling but we would be extremely foolish to give up 3 2022 1st rounders for him. now a 2022 1st, 2023 1st or 2nd and hurts?

russ is the only QB i wouldn't be livid if they traded for this offseason and that's only if we aren't throwing all our draft capital away

im against trading all three first rounders for russ...thats all ill say

 

[Controversy]

im against trading all three first rounders for russ...thats all ill say

You only make a trade like that if you're a QB away from being a guaranteed contender

 

[Ohene]

You only make a trade like that if you're a QB away from being a guaranteed contender

like the Rams did and even then its never a guarantee

the Eagles arent extremely far off, and would be more likely to get their by adding talent on defense in the draft

a corner , LB and edge would do wonders for this team. Why dont these idiots realize it?

worst part is theyre letting a great OL go to waste

 

[Controversy]

like the Rams did and even then its never a guarantee

the Eagles arent extremely far off, and would be more likely to get their by adding talent on defense in the draft

a corner , LB and edge would do wonders for this team. Why dont these idiots realize it?

worst part is theyre letting a great OL go to waste

I picture a world where we have Gainwell running for 1k yds and catching 40 balls for 350 yds with 10 total TDs. Devonta grabbing 85 balls for 1200 yds & 10 TDs. Goedert catching 65 balls for 850 yds & 7 TDs. Drake London catching 50 balls for 600 yds & 5 TDs. Quez Watkins catching 40 balls for 550 yds & 4 TDs. And I can picture it next season.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

one of the best free agent moves Roseman has ever done

 

[KingCesar]

Jimmy is 3 yrs younger & will cost less

Jimmy can also get a team to the SB

We don't need an elite QB in Siri's system...we need a guy w/ some mobility who can attack all 3 levels

If we draft well & sign 2 or 3 good starters, we win the division with Jimmy G

I don’t buy that. Every offensive system in the NFL needs a top-level QB to be consistently competitive. Even Shanahan’s 49ers, which runs one of the most QB-friendly offenses in the NFL, traded three 1st Round draft picks to pick Trey Lance to replace Garoppolo. They wouldn’t have done that if they thought they could win with Jimmy G. They were looking for a guy with more upside.

Garoppolo doesn’t elevate teams to Super Bowls. He does just enough with an elite defense, receiving threats, run game, and offensive line around him. If all those things click at once, the Niners are SB contenders. If they don't, Jimmy G can't do anything for them. He’s basically Kirk Cousins, a better passer than Hurts, sure, but not the long-term answer the Eagles need, and certainly not worth paying the kind of money he’ll be demanding.

If watching Wentz and Darnold this season has taught me one thing, it’s that it’s not worth signing some other team’s castoff. If the Eagles are going to make a move for a QB, it should be with the idea of finding the long-term answer for the position. Anything else is just a waste of time.

And that leaves two options: 1) trade for an established superstar, e.g. Rodgers, Wilson, or Watson or 2) take a shot on a QB prospect in the draft. If neither option is a feasible one, the Eagles are better off running it back with Hurts next season, improving the rest of the team around him, and taking their shots at a QB in 2023.

 

[gangreen]

If Chicago releases Foles this off season and he wants to play for us again, would u guys pick up Foles and keep Hurts to further develop him?

This would take a visionary head coach/offensive coordinator to balance it but I think Foles as starter and have Hurts for certain run heavy and goal line packages as a running/passing threat. It would give defenses fits. Sort of like a Brees/Taysom Hill in New Orleans set up but with Foles and Hurts.

I watched Foles week 16 with the Bears win against Seattle in the snow on the road. Nicky 6 is still clutch and slinging it.

My thinking is that Foles is a 33 year old veteran who obviously has a track record here, who can make all the throws and wouldn't cost us much in cap space or draft capital compared to names like Jimmy G, Russ and Watson.

Hurts would still be an integral part of the offense and could develop some more while we can actually compete offensively throwing the ball.

If Foles gets hurt then Hurts is there.

If it falls into place, I would sign Foles, sign a veteran possession receiver someone like Allen Robinson via free agency to complement DeVonta Smith.

Then really focus on the defense with the rest of the cap money and draft picks.

 

[KingCesar]

To me, signing average or below average veteran QBs (Garoppolo, Foles, Dalton, etc.) to start is a waste of time and resources better spent elsewhere. We know who those guys are at this point, but Hurts is only 23-years old and hasn't hit his ceiling yet. And while I don’t believe he’s likely to make the kind of jump he needs to be considered a franchise QB, if your choices are to start Hurts or sign Foles/Garoppolo, you’re better off just giving Hurts another season to develop.

If the Eagles are looking to make a move at QB this year, there are only two options that make sense to me: 1) trade for an established superstar who you know can be a difference maker, or 2) take a chance on a QB in the draft. Foles isn't an impact player. He's a guy who can get hot for a couple games at a time, but otherwise has managed to lose his starting job on every team that he's played on.

Personally, I'm on the side of starting Hurts in 2022, giving him another chance to grow as a passer, and upgrading his weapons so that he doesn't need to be throwing to Jalen Reagor anymore.

 

[1thouwow]

Yeah it’s gonna be a long off-season. Y’all ain’t talking about shyt in here

 

[Box Factory]

Yeah it’s gonna be a long off-season. Y’all ain’t talking about shyt in here

Pretty huge offseason though

I can understand why ppl are excited about it.

As much as we all shyt on Howie, he has us in position to have an incredible offseason.

3 1sts and possibly 40 - 50 mil in cap space is huge for a young team that just made the playoffs

I'm not feeling the idea of trading for a veteran QB because I don't think we're there yet. Plus I'd rather use these assets to pick up important pieces at places we clearly need to upgrade

 

[wire28]

I just hope that he doesn’t trade them. Use all of the firsts and atleast the second. I could live with him trading the third for a second next year. We need the bodies.

 

[Leasy]

Keep Hurts for an extra year to see if he improves. Take those draft picks get defense and if Hurts suck prepare for 2023.