Florida is stopping a PARENT-LESS 16 YEAR OLD from getting an abortion because "she's not mature enough"...but she is to have a kid?! #BothSides

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Imagine saying this to Minister Farakhan or Malcolm X.

You won't find any respectable black men in history that ever supported abortion. It was originally a white supremacist ploy to try and kill black people off.

Black people are conservative. We are religious. We believe in God. You new age liberal weirdos just need to accept it. Yall are arguing on the side of the og white supremacists while we are on the side of most black people.

Farrakhan, the guy who doesn't really believe in women's rights like that? That guy?

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

No. The consequences of her actions is the government potentially not allowing her to terminate the pregnancy. Same thing as the government locking you up for drinking and driving.

We live in a land of laws. You can't say you won't follow the laws simply because you disagree with it.

Now you pivot from "laws of nature" (pregnancy) to legal (jail).

Focus, breh!

Slavery and segregation were legal. Anyone who disobeyed the law was wrong in those cases as well, I presume?

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Farrakhan, the guy who doesn't really believe in women's rights like that? That guy?

Now he will fall back on "natural law" to shyt on women's autonomy, even though legally women have individual rights, just like he pivoted to legalism to criminalize abortion when the "natural law" angle failed.

 

[Swagnificent]

Lol. More hair splitting. What I said is correct as a general rule and you know it.

And no, this started because of your fallacious appeal to "natural law".

Actually this is what you said:

The "natural course" after a broken leg is death. Humans violate "nature" all the time. FOH with that BS.

You said the "natural course" after a broken leg is death. Which isn't true since animals have been shown to survive broken legs in the wild without any medical care. In fact you admitted it yourself that juveniles can survive broken legs because their younger bodies can be more readily repaired as well as the aid they get from their parents.

The broken leg isn't what kills animals. It's the lack of ability to take care of themselves while the broken bones heal naturally.

 

[Champ_KW]

I told you my example, and one from actual history. The Sumerian tablets with instructions for pregnancy termination and the extinction of Silphium in ancient Greece.

Silphium was akin to a birth control pill. Don't tell me you're trying to morph the existence of a form of ancient contraceptive into the same as a first term abortion procedure?

 

[Swagnificent]

Farrakhan, the guy who doesn't really believe in women's rights like that? That guy?

We know non-black folk like yourself don't like Farakhan. But to us in the black community he is a hero.

 

[ndthentherewasx]

These sick fukks plotting something for these kids. Unwanted ones at that.

 

[Swagnificent]

Slavery and segregation were legal. Anyone who disobeyed the law was wrong in those cases as well, I presume?

And? There were many black slave owners in America during slavery. And the institution of slavery also existed globally in almost every culture.

I don't get your point here.

 

[The_Truth]

The father isn't petitioning for an abortion. But it's a sad case all around, hence the reason I stressed asserting sexual discipline, especially when you're a kid.

No, you're stressing sexual discipline ONLY for women/girls. As usual, you people never have any ideas about holding men accountable.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We know non-black folk like yourself don't like Farakhan. But to us in the black community he is a hero.

I'm black. I'm not constitutionally mandated to love that man.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Silphium was akin to a birth control pill. Don't tell me you're trying to morph the existence of a form of ancient contraceptive into the same as a first term abortion procedure?

It also acted as an abortifacient.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Silphium was akin to a birth control pill. Don't tell me you're trying to morph the existence of a form of ancient contraceptive into the same as a first term abortion procedure?

is it more legitimate if its ancient?

Should we stop using aspirin then?

 

[The_Truth]

What about him? He loses all legal rights to the continuation or termination of that pregnancy the moment his sperm leaves his body. Men never had any rights to determine whether or not a child could come into this world. The state of Florida had simply extended that to the female in this case.

Imagine saying this to Minister Farakhan or Malcolm X.

You won't find any respectable black men in history that ever supported abortion. It was originally a white supremacist ploy to try and kill black people off.

Black people are conservative. We are religious. We believe in God. You new age liberal weirdos just need to accept it. Yall are arguing on the side of the og white supremacists while we are on the side of most black people.

Man, shut your dumbass up.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

And? There were many black slave owners in America during slavery. And the institution of slavery also existed globally in almost every culture.

I don't get your point here.

So slavery was morally correct? Were those who resisted slavery morally wrong? Slavery passes both your legal and "natural" tests.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Actually this is what you said:



You said the "natural course" after a broken leg is death. Which isn't true since animals have been shown to survive broken legs in the wild without any medical care. In fact you admitted it yourself that juveniles can survive broken legs because their younger bodies can be more readily repaired as well as the aid they get from their parents.

The broken leg isn't what kills animals. It's the lack of ability to take care of themselves while the broken bones heal naturally.

What I said is correct as a general rule. Everything you attempted to cite to refute this general rule failed.