Florida is stopping a PARENT-LESS 16 YEAR OLD from getting an abortion because "she's not mature enough"...but she is to have a kid?! #BothSides

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

A mentally unwell woman has a child with a man. The man gets killed. The child is taken away and becomes a criminal.....all pro-abortion folks agree that kid should be aborted. That kid however turned into being Malcolm X.

Can you imagine the countless of black heroes we lost to abortion...the amount of unwritten stories? Always think the worst of unborn babies.....shyt sad out here.

Wrong. They agree the mother should have had the fukking option.

Let's pretend all the kids not had were destined to be Malcolm X. Meanwhile black kids are in abundance in foster system n least adopted. Meanwhile unfit lesbian couples can get a handful of unwanted Black children from the system to pile into a car and drive off a cliff.

Why don't adoption rates for Black children go up to coincide with this notion that there are tons of people waiting to save them? Should be a ton of you anti choice people waiting to foster. But in reality you don't care that far just enough to affect someone else's choices in life.

 

[Marc Spector]

You keep attacking every angle except kids having frivolous and irresponsible sex. I'm wrong for wanting to attack the root of the issue instead trying to act the only natural part of the process is whether or not the woman (child) can kill the baby if they don't "want" it??? Weird times

trying to morally shame people outta unprotecte sex (especially teens) is like pissing in the wind, you fukking moron. We live in a modern society where people dont have to bring children to term and we have countless data showing that kids born to ppl not ready to have them wind up in poverty, face all sorts of abuse and trauma, and indulge in criminality, which hurts society as a whole.

What possible fukking gain is it to force largely young, poor, and uneducated people to have kids? To prove some retarded, puritanical point about "waiting until marriage"? to show women to keep their legs closed (which coming from 95% of the country is the most hypocritical statement ever)?

Oh and by the way, you dont stop premarital sex in the modern world by forcing draconian standards on women. You reduce teenage pregnancy by giving kids guidance, purpose and a fukking path forward in life. When people have career and family aspirations, they will wait or use protection.

And even then, people will fukk and kids will be born. Its a tale as old as time.

 

[Grifter]

Not mature enough to get rid of it but will allow her to keep and raise it.

 

[tater]

Dawn of time, huh? The Bible have everyone from murderers, pedophiles, thieves, prostitutes, etc mentioned. Show me the person in the Bible that had an abortion...

Women have been trying to control pregnancy since forever. Ancient Egyptian women used forms of birth control and we know there are herbs that cause babies to be stillborn. Many women would drink chamomile tea which causes still born babies as well. Abortion is not a new concept. This knowledge wasn't just found out or something some pro choice advocate just learned.

 

[boogers]

Women have been trying to control pregnancy since forever. Ancient Egyptian women used forms of birth control and we know there are herbs that cause babies to be stillborn. Many women would drink chamomile tea which causes still born babies as well. Abortion is not a new concept. This knowledge wasn't just found out or something some pro choice advocate just learned.

that's interesting. i've never heard of chamomile as an abortifacient, just pennyroyal. crazy shyt

 

[tater]

that's interesting. i've never heard of chamomile as an abortifacient, just pennyroyal. crazy shyt

I remember our high school teacher taught us that lol, it was reiterated when I was in nursing school as well. Pregnant women shouldn't drink chamomile as a risk to the baby.

I just looked it up and there seems to be some conflicting info though.

 

[Champ_KW]

trying to morally shame people outta unprotecte sex (especially teens) is like pissing in the wind, you fukking moron. We live in a modern society where people dont have to bring children to term and we have countless data showing that kids born to ppl not ready to have them wind up in poverty, face all sorts of abuse and trauma, and indulge in criminality, which hurts society as a whole.

What possible fukking gain is it to force largely young, poor, and uneducated people to have kids? To prove some retarded, puritanical point about "waiting until marriage"? to show women to keep their legs closed (which coming from 95% of the country is the most hypocritical statement ever)?

Oh and by the way, you dont stop premarital sex in the modern world by forcing draconian standards on women. You reduce teenage pregnancy by giving kids guidance, purpose and a fukking path forward in life. When people have career and family aspirations, they will wait or use protection.

And even then, people will fukk and kids will be born. Its a tale as old as time.

You're the moron. This entire post is filled with projection. Not once did I say anything about premarital sex. What about discipline makes it a "draconian standard" on women? See, the problem is, everyone is so used to being undisciplined with their eating habits, their physical health, and sexual decisions, that it's treated like dogma or a "draconian standard" when asked to be asserted.

And while trying to incorrectly call someone out for "shaming" someone for unprotected sex, you went straight into your eugenics bag and pulled goofy buzzwords like "poverty, abuse, trauma criminality, poor, and uneducated" out. Sounds like you're shaming a certain demographic of society INTO getting abortions. You ain't slick.

 

[Biscayne]

Consequences of YOUR actions vs a medical procedure are two different things. Sexual discipline would negate this issue all together.

Consequences? Their argument is maturity not consequence. She’s not mature enough to make her own decision, but she’s mature enough to forgo a consequence that can wreak havoc on her non fully matured body? We didn’t even get to the rape issue. Smh.

 

[Champ_KW]

Consequences? Their argument is maturity not consequence. She’s not mature enough to make her own decision, but she’s mature enough to forgo a consequence that can wreak havoc on her non fully matured body? We didn’t even get to the rape issue. Smh.

What's the rape issue?

 

[Biscayne]

You're the moron. This entire post is filled with projection. Not once did I say anything about premarital sex. What about discipline makes it a "draconian standard" on women? See, the problem is, everyone is so used to being undisciplined with their eating habits, their physical health, and sexual decisions, that it's treated like dogma or a "draconian standard" when asked to be asserted.

And while trying to incorrectly call someone out for "shaming" someone for unprotected sex, you went straight into your eugenics bag and pulled goofy buzzwords like "poverty, abuse, trauma criminality, poor, and uneducated" out. Sounds like you're shaming a certain demographic of society INTO getting abortions. You ain't slick.

He’s giving a certain demographic a CHOICE. Hence the term pro choice. If a poor person gets pregnant, what laws force them into an abortion, as opposed to the laws forcing a poor 16yr old to carry to term. You guys keep coming with horrible arguments and false equivalencies. Have you heard of any laws banning ppl from keeping the child?

 

[Biscayne]

What's the rape issue?

Forcing someone to carry to term even in instances of rape. Whether forced or statutory.