Florida Gov. DeSantis will run for President in 2028

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How do you all think George W. Bush and Karl Rove would of did against Trump in place of Jeb Bush if George W. would of campaigned against Donald Trump?


Interesting question. You're basically asking how karl rove would get trump out of the paint if he was going against him in 2016. I do remember rove thinking that trump didn't have a chance in 2016 so it's possible he might've put his efforts into Cruz and Rubio (he thought jeb, Cruz, and Rubio has the upper hand).

Really hard to say because George W Bush was the first piece in the chain of causation that lead to trump.
 

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Trump vs. DeSantis in 2024? USA TODAY/Suffolk poll shows Florida Republicans prefer their governor

In a hypothetical 2024 presidential primary in the Sunshine State, DeSantis leads Trump 48%-40%. That's a reversal from a poll of Florida in January, when Trump led DeSantis 47%-40%.

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Trump already had his lowest approval numbers of the year before today's announcement. Don't think he was running anyway but Trump is done. They'll be going with DeSantis.

The thing is these Trump vs. DeSantis polls don't matter if Trump ran because DeSantis said he wouldn't run if that happened.
 

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How do you all think George W. Bush and Karl Rove would of did against Trump in place of Jeb Bush if George W. would of campaigned against Donald Trump?
George W. Bush managed to harness a kind of populist folksyism that would have been a good hedge against Trump and probably would have garnered popularity.

Part of the issue is that Trumpism is an outgrowth of a kind of right-wing reactionary neoconservatism that was produced by Bush.
 

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How do you all think George W. Bush and Karl Rove would of did against Trump in place of Jeb Bush if George W. would of campaigned against Donald Trump?

Trump never makes it to a national stage back then. Republicans went insane because Clinton got his dikk sucked. They would have destroyed Trump for his moral failings, plus he was a joke in all aspects.

He also would have been a Democrat back then, and he would have gotten bushed because the Central Park 5 was in the recent memory.

Edit: there's also no Twitter back then
 

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How do you all think George W. Bush and Karl Rove would of did against Trump in place of Jeb Bush if George W. would of campaigned against Donald Trump?

Difficult question because trump was made possible by George w. It's hard to imagine trumpism in a world where dubya did not precede him. Most of the crazy shyt trump did were things dubya and karl rove originated but implemented with a little more finesse and discretion. Dubya and Rove lied to Americans just as shamelessly and relentlessly as trump. They were just as corrupt. Dubya literally lied us into the war in Iraq. Even trump didn't do that shyt. By the time trump came around in 2016, the old school conservatives that nurtured dubya had lost control of the party. If the dubya of 2000/2004 was running against trump, dubya would've gone out like Rick Perry.
 

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DeSantis is using the part of the trump playbook that actually worked. By making himself the target he’s getting the media/opposition to build his visibility and essentially frame him as the eventual nominee.

Never forget that anything even remotely involving immigration is a losing issue for Dems.

If people didn’t care about kids being taken from their families many of whom were never reunited, you really think this is the silver bullet? Americans have the shortest attention span known to humanity, and that’s only when something actually catches our eyes.

We should be forcing him to answer questions about trump stealing nuclear secrets, January 6th, abortion, violent white supremacists, expanding health care and income inequality.

There are tens of millions of people that are one accidentally broken limb, untreated infection or minor accident while uninsured away from eviction and total financial catastrophe. This isn’t moving the needle.
 

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