Florida Gov. DeSantis will run for President in 2028

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Breh. The MAGA trump people are a minority of the party. They are not enough by themselves. Again this is the media spinning a story bc it gets clicks/views.


Fair enough, I don't have any hard data displaying what percentage maga represents the Republican voting share. I do know that Trump has been leading the polls for 3 months now over desantis and the gap has only been widening. I guess we'll have to wait and see how their court cases go.
 

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I'm not sure what more evidence needs to be presented before you determine that the MAGA crew runs the entire primary process in the GOP.

Trump is racketing up endorsements and already has like 45% of the vote locked up. These folks stand next to this man thru it all. COVID, insurrections, jail, death.

Haley and crew can't do shyt to stop him.
 

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1. Each candidate starts with a solid 40% or so that will never change no matter what.
2. The media has clear interest in the ups and downs of the campaign. They need this to drive and maintain interest.
3. Trump is a loser.
4. No such thing as bad publicity.

A solid 40% of what? Approval? Favorability? And I'd say that isn't true for either. The rest of your points are true but aren't major factors in Desantis' standing.

His major issues are:

1. He is hemorrhaging much needed support within his own party and it's donors. This fact is not being overblown by the media, its true and we see evidence of it.

2. This Disney lawsuit is bad for his brand no matter how it shakes out and he's doubling down on his position. As a presidential candidate, the theme/goal of your presidency has to be the message that's front and center during your campaign. Not the lawsuit with a family based company, that employs most of the people in your home state, issues with your draconian ideals that aren't even slightly popular on a national level.

Trump is a loser but he's a predictable loser who can be leveraged by the GOP.
 
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I really hope this isn’t the strategy they’re gonna go with.

Disney: so you’re saying the theme parks that got built after we built Orlando? Those theme parks. The same parks that you haven’t said a word about.

I hope they video the deposition. If I’m Disney I’m asking for the case to be fast tracked.
 
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To maga folks trump still represents change and they even see him as a martyr that's being persecuted.


The timing of his court case being around Easter had his base comparing him to Jesus

Christians are a hate group that should be expelled from the country. They're fukking evil, and bring nothing positive to this planet
 

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A solid 40% of what? Approval? Favorability? And I'd say that isn't true for either. The rest of your points are true but aren't major factors in Desantis' standing.

His major issues are:

1. He is hemorrhaging much needed support within his own party and it's donors. This fact is not being overblown by the media, its true and we see evidence of it.

2. This Disney lawsuit is bad for his brand no matter how it shakes out and he's doubling down on his position. As a presidential candidate, the theme/goal of your presidency has to be the message that's front and center during your campaign. Not the lawsuit with a family based company, that employs most of the people in your home state, issues with your draconian ideals that aren't even slightly popular on a national level.

Trump is a loser but he's a predictable loser who can be leveraged by the GOP.

1. Solid 40% of the electorate.

2. Hemorrhaging? He hasn't even declared. The race hasn't began. The only people paying attention are people who follow politics closely. And the donors will be there. They always are.

3. The Disney shyt is meant to keep him in the headlines and to burnish whatever credibility he thinks is important with trumpies. If he tries to make that the centerpiece of his general campaign then I definitely agree with you that it's a huge liability.

You guys are wayyyyyy too deep into the "horse race" style of political coverage.
 

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Stuff like this only burnishes DeSantis status as a front runner. She had to say something like this bc she realizes he's taking up all of the oxygen in the room. The front runner is the person who is in everyone's mouth. Haley, Christie and Trump realize, unlike the ppl in here, that the polls are meaningless right now and that DeSantis still has the inside track. The numbers always get better once the candidate declares, and bc of the way the GOP primary works, they know if they don't get him out asap that it will be all but impossible once voting starts.

What else do you guys need to see to understand that in today's environment there really is no such thing as bad publicity.

The Kardashians are worth a billion dollars bc Kim sucked and took dikk on camera.

There are GOP congressmen in office today who lied about who they are, their lives, schooling, money, work history, religion, etc etc.

Trump won in 2016 bc he got NONSTOP media coverage. Good or bad it doesn't matter. The truth doesn't even matter.

The media literally admitted it to y'all already when Moonves said "he may be bad for the country but he's good for CBS." The media sees him as trump w/o the same baggage...the beauty for them is that he irritates Dems as much as trump. Nowadays even more than trump. So y'all gonna keep clicking every article, every tweet, every updated article and then reactions smh.

Seriously though, google "horse race journalism."
 

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Stuff like this only burnishes DeSantis status as a front runner. She had to say something like this bc she realizes he's taking up all of the oxygen in the room. The front runner is the person who is in everyone's mouth. Haley, Christie and Trump realize, unlike the ppl in here, that the polls are meaningless right now and that DeSantis still has the inside track. The numbers always get better once the candidate declares, and bc of the way the GOP primary works, they know if they don't get him out asap that it will be all but impossible once voting starts.

What else do you guys need to see to understand that in today's environment there really is no such thing as bad publicity.

The Kardashians are worth a billion dollars bc Kim sucked and took dikk on camera.

There are GOP congressmen in office today who lied about who they are, their lives, schooling, money, work history, religion, etc etc.

Trump won in 2016 bc he got NONSTOP media coverage. Good or bad it doesn't matter. The truth doesn't even matter.

The media literally admitted it to y'all already when Moonves said "he may be bad for the country but he's good for CBS." The media sees him as trump w/o the same baggage...the beauty for them is that he irritates Dems as much as trump. Nowadays even more than trump. So y'all gonna keep clicking every article, every tweet, every updated article and then reactions smh.

Seriously though, google "horse race journalism."

Bro DeSantis is trying to run as the 'adult who corrected political correctness via legislation ' and is failing badly.

Being a governor of FL of all places politically speaking is fukking easy. It's a state that has the golden egg goose in its backyard with theme parks, hotels and beaches. Any half-assed governor worth a shyt could govern that place with their eyes closed. THANKS TO DISNEY. Oh and a bunch of folks who will work for 🥜 due to their immigration status.

You have year round good weather
Massive tourist locations
Retirees you don't piss off
Ocean surrounding it
Weather preparedness

There is no way you can spin being sued by the Walt Disney Corporation as a fukking positive. He's a dipshyt that donors are shaking their heads at non-stop to stop while he goes on this woke crusade.

What exactly would a 'win' look like?!
 
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Breh. The MAGA trump people are a minority of the party. They are not enough by themselves. Again this is the media spinning a story bc it gets clicks/views.
MAGA Trump is the party. They dominate the primaries and republicans by and large all supported Trump throughout his presidency and afterwards.
 

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I think it’s important not to conflate DeSantis getting press as the governor of Florida with Desantis getting press as the republican presidential front runner.

In many ways he just receiving the same press that the other governors of large states receive when they splashy political moves.
 

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Bro DeSantis is trying to run as the 'adult who corrected political correctness via legislation ' and is failing badly.

Being a governor of FL of all places politically speaking is fukking easy. It's a state that has the golden egg goose in its backyard with theme parks, hotels and beaches. Any half-assed governor worth a shyt could govern that place with their eyes closed. THANKS TO DISNEY. Oh and a bunch of folks who will work for 🥜 due to their immigration status.

You have year round good weather
Massive tourist locations
Retirees you don't piss off
Ocean surrounding it
Weather preparedness

There is no way you can spin being sued by the Walt Disney Corporation as a fukking positive. He's a dipshyt that donors are shaking their heads at non-stop to stop while he goes on this woke crusade.

What exactly would a 'win' look like?!

Do you realize that by echoing trump's argument/criticism (which people rightfully mocked bc it was so desperate) about how Florida is so easy to govern etc you're essentially conceding to DeSantis fundament claims about his popularity/success as governor?

He has already won regarding Disney. The media is focusing on him. Trump is focused on him. The other candidates are focused on him. One of the largest, most recognized companies/brands are focused on him. This Disney shyt is giving him untold millions in free advertisement. The people who hate him for it were never going to vote for him.

Disney/DeSantis don't hate each other in the same way you hate DeSantis. At some point they'lll make peace and Disney execs will go back to supporting guys like DeSantis. This was similar to the Dominion/Fox News thread when posters thought dominion was in it for the long haul, trying to strike a blow for Democracy against Murdoch then were disappointed when they quickly settled for $780M.

You care too much about the day to day fight. That's the distraction. Disney isn't fighting an ideological battle this is just about money and power. The donor shyt is about ego. Every donor wants their ass kissed. All of these issues will be hashed out, as they always are, behind closed doors. They will then move on.

Money won't be an object. There are two billionaires just in the Chicago area (Ken Griffin and Richard Euhlein) that would probably be willing to finance the entire race if necessary.

All that being said, I hope we are smart enough to continue to egg on this trump vs DeSantis battle. One piece of good news is that trump seems fully committed to fukking over the GOP if they don't nominate him.
 
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