Fast-food workers walkout to protest low wages

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Oh, is it really THAT easy? :ohhh:

I am shocked McDonald's still has people working for them

No, but if i was a CEO or a manager i don't even know if i would tell them that, I'd probably straight fire them make an example make up an excuse, if i was really powerful i'd blacklist them make it harder for them to find a job and thus making an example. Thats what i meant but couldnt be asked editing it
 

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:whoa: 30k def is not "ballin" lets not take it too far. But its def not struggling.
I can "ball" @ 20K in the midwest/south, its just a matter of reducing things that can be reduced. There is no point in paying more for electricity, water, gas, and other utilities you might have.

My utilities combined this past winter were about $80 per month and I kept my apartment steadily warm at 75. I realize I am much different than others though as I am a minimalist, some people would probably go crazy with my lifestyle.

30K is probably the minimum in NYC though...rent alone out there is $12,000+
 

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I can "ball" @ 20K in the midwest/south, its just a matter of reducing things that can be reduced. There is no point in paying more for electricity, water, gas, and other utilities you might have.

My utilities combined this past winter were about $80 per month and I kept my apartment steadily warm at 75. I realize I am much different than others though as I am a minimalist, some people would probably go crazy with my lifestyle.

30K is probably the minimum in NYC though...rent alone out there is $12,000+

Could you define ballin for me? Im sure we all have different views on it
 

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I can "ball" @ 20K in the midwest/south, its just a matter of reducing things that can be reduced. There is no point in paying more for electricity, water, gas, and other utilities you might have.

My utilities combined this past winter were about $80 per month and I kept my apartment steadily warm at 75. I realize I am much different than others though as I am a minimalist, some people would probably go crazy with my lifestyle.

30K is probably the minimum in NYC though...rent alone out there is $12,000+

I could never do that. That's just not living to me. I mean, I could do it, but that we would be considered tightening the belt to an extent where I'm no longer living life. What people miss in this entire equation is that it's a question of policy and how far we are willing to let people fall. There's nothing inherently right or natural about existing in a society where one has to be entirely frugal just to stay above water. This is what people miss in these discussions. Furthermore, the benchmark for minimum wage in the United States has been set so low that $15 dollars an hour minimum wage seems ridiculous to people, but companies like Cotsco give that to their employees all the time. I know all of this wasn't in response to your post, I just didn't feel like posting twice.
 

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Minimum wage jobs is just that. For people with zero to low skills. It's there if you want it. If you aspire to bigger things with better pay, then you go for that. This is America, not the Soviet Union. There are restaurants that pay their cooks and servers more in wages. They also cost more to eat there too. So, it comes to inflation. You want to increase minimum wage to $15, the cost of a meal is going to go up too, probably double. So, a McDonald's meal is going to cost $5 for a hamburger, not the Big Mac, just a plain hamburger. The Big Mac is going to be $11. No fries or soda too. A hamburger, fries and a medium Coke will be $10. A Big Mac, fries and a medium Coke will be $16.
Think about the trickle down effect of that. The volume of customers will drop by more than 50%. Other restaurants who are more upscale than McDonald's will have a higher wage, and even higher prices. So a diner that had a $10 platter of fried chicken, fries and a soda will now cost $20. A small Dairy Queen milkshake is going to cost $8.00. :dahell:
Restaurants have closed due to the hurting economy. Less people can afford to eat out. Raising wages, and ultimately food prices is going to result in restaurants going bankrupt and closing down. The final repercussion is higher unemployment and even less jobs.

someone posted a link here, and apparently the prices wouldnt go up
 

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I could never do that. That's just not living to me. I mean, I could do it, but that we would be considered tightening the belt to an extent where I'm no longer living life. What people miss in this entire equation is that it's a question of policy and how far we are willing to let people fall. There's nothing inherently right or natural about existing in a society where one has to be entirely frugal just to stay above water. This is what people miss in these discussions. Furthermore, the benchmark for minimum wage in the United States has been set so low that $15 dollars an hour minimum wage seems ridiculous to people, but companies like Cotsco give that to their employees all the time. I know all of this wasn't in response to your post, I just didn't feel like posting twice.
Could you define ballin for me? Im sure we all have different views on it
I think it has to do with my one object/task at a time philosophy with everything. My utilities are so low because I insulated my place very well and keep things steady. I used to be different...I might just be getting old (30 next year :flabbynsick:)

I only have 1 tv screen at home, why? Because I use things for what I feel they are intended to be used for. I don't "watch tv" in bed at all before I go to sleep. If I am on my bed its either for sex or sleep. Take that example and you pretty much view how I see things. I cut waste completely because I hate living a cluttered lifestyle. If I build computers, no parts are wasted and every possible slot is maxed before moving on to the next. I hate taking things out with any of my credit cards, I hate making monthly payments on things that even have the lowest interest rate possible. On top of that my money is never idle, even if my checking account is earning half of 1% interest I am taking it. Along with savings accounts, stocks, and other local investments.

With 20K out here would be about 15K after taxes are taken out and health coverage is paid. My total bills are about $700 per month, which leaves about $6,600 in excess every year to spend on things I might need/want.

Now I understand most people would go crazy calculating everything, but its something I get a rise out of. One of my main goals in Detroit is to learn what is going on and help that city. I am on the verge of going over there now for my independent research + completing the dual task of profit on my end and benefits completely for the residents.

That makes me sound like a Republican/Hardcore conservative
 

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How do you think you deserve 15hr for a job that's takes one day of training for you to be replaced lol. They get paid 7.25 because they have no leverage. These workers going to end up like them MLB umpires years back.

No, they get paid 7.25 an hour because unions have been devastated by changes in labor laws dating back to the 40 and 50s. The fact is, previously workers could petition and blok more than just their own workforce, they could petition the suppliers or completely unrelated business as well. The collective power of workers would bring about better wages, but they are not able to do that collectively anymore. It used to be that the workers at the factory refused to work that the truck drivers wouldn't cross the line. Heck, workers used to block shipments from companies just because they disagreed with what the Soviets were doing in entirely different regions. Depriving workers from the ability of electing union representatives just by signing cards as opposed to going in and voting, globalization, right-to-work laws, and many other things are why worker wages have been depressed. They do not inherently lack leverage, but a confluence of factors have taken it away.
 

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Not that I disagree, but from a economic standpoint how sustainable would this be if hypothetically everyone at taco bell makes $15/hr...
Ask Costco

You guys are being fooled by these big corporations. I personally don't think they can raise it to $15 an hour without some price increase on their shytty food, but thinking that their empires would collapse as a result is foolish.
 

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I think it has to do with my one object/task at a time philosophy with everything. My utilities are so low because I insulated my place very well and keep things steady. I used to be different...I might just be getting old (30 next year :flabbynsick:)

I only have 1 tv screen at home, why? Because I use things for what I feel they are intended to be used for. I don't "watch tv" in bed at all before I go to sleep. If I am on my bed its either for sex or sleep. Take that example and you pretty much view how I see things. I cut waste completely because I hate living a cluttered lifestyle. If I build computers, no parts are wasted and every possible slot is maxed before moving on to the next. I hate taking things out with any of my credit cards, I hate making monthly payments on things that even have the lowest interest rate possible. On top of that my money is never idle, even if my checking account is earning half of 1% interest I am taking it. Along with savings accounts, stocks, and other local investments.

With 20K out here would be about 15K after taxes are taken out and health coverage is paid. My total bills are about $700 per month, which leaves about $6,600 in excess every year to spend on things I might need/want.

Now I understand most people would go crazy calculating everything, but its something I get a rise out of. One of my main goals in Detroit is to learn what is going on and help that city. I am on the verge of going over there now for my independent research + completing the dual task of profit on my end and benefits completely for the residents.

That makes me sound like a Republican/Hardcore conservative

It doesn't make you sound like a Republican it's just that it emboldens those who blame workers for a depressed economy. Look at the lengths that you have to to go through to live that lifestyle, then think about people who want to start a family, or even someone who is young. Basically, under your analysis a person's entire lifestyle must be reformatted around tip-toeing through every decision because one bad move and they're headed towards poverty. I also kind of think it's a stretch to talk about investments while only bringing in about 6,000 a year after expenses are paid for. It also assumes financial literary, and more often than not that requires a college education and then you would have to add student loans to your equation.
 

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I think it has to do with my one object/task at a time philosophy with everything. My utilities are so low because I insulated my place very well and keep things steady. I used to be different...I might just be getting old (30 next year :flabbynsick:)

I only have 1 tv screen at home, why? Because I use things for what I feel they are intended to be used for. I don't "watch tv" in bed at all before I go to sleep. If I am on my bed its either for sex or sleep. Take that example and you pretty much view how I see things. I cut waste completely because I hate living a cluttered lifestyle. If I build computers, no parts are wasted and every possible slot is maxed before moving on to the next. I hate taking things out with any of my credit cards, I hate making monthly payments on things that even have the lowest interest rate possible. On top of that my money is never idle, even if my checking account is earning half of 1% interest I am taking it. Along with savings accounts, stocks, and other local investments.

With 20K out here would be about 15K after taxes are taken out and health coverage is paid. My total bills are about $700 per month, which leaves about $6,600 in excess every year to spend on things I might need/want.

Now I understand most people would go crazy calculating everything, but its something I get a rise out of. One of my main goals in Detroit is to learn what is going on and help that city. I am on the verge of going over there now for my independent research + completing the dual task of profit on my end and benefits completely for the residents.

That makes me sound like a Republican/Hardcore conservative

could you itemize your monthly life please. Im curious
 

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It doesn't make you sound like a Republican it's just that it emboldens those who blame workers for a depressed economy. Look at the lengths that you have to to go through to live that lifestyle, then think about people who want to start a family, or even someone who is young. Basically, under your analysis a person's entire lifestyle must be reformatted around tip-toeing through every decision because one bad move and they're headed towards poverty. I also kind of think it's a stretch to talk about investments while only bringing in about 6,000 a year after expenses are paid for. It also assumes financial literary, and more often than not that requires a college education and then you would have to add student loans to your equation.
See I don't think I go through extreme lengths to live my lifestyle and if you consider that most people are living with a significant other...then you are possibly looking at $13,000+ in expendable income with my math + small interest on top of it. Surely someone should save a couple of hundred dollars a month if they can, but you know most people don't. I DO THINK that wages in NYC do have to go up significantly because the cost of living is insanely high for that pathetic minimum wage they have up there. I just get a little annoyed when people act like they can't make it with 30K per year in most parts of the country. Also, I think Economics should be taught from grades 6-8. Community College should be free or should I say...handled like K-12 is.

Plus I don't think you need much to invest in something...especially in this kickstarter age. A small item idea you come up with can net you hundreds of thousands of dollars, with a $500 investment or something to cook up a video selling it.

could you itemize your monthly life please. Im curious
Rent + Utilities - $468 (My rent is low because I've lived in my place for a while)
FOOD - $100 (I cook almost everything these days)
Car Insurance - $93 (which should go down next year since I will hit the magical age of 30)
Cellphone Bill - $43 (I can probably get this down to $40 flat in 18 months if I wish, but I am not sure its worth all the hassle with boost mobile)
Internet - $39

$743 per month are my required expenses. I haven't paid an ATM fee in years. I don't pay convenience fees on anything since everything comes out automatically. I have scheduled all my utility bills to come out of my credit card that builds points, I look at what my bill was and pay everything off the very next day to minimize interest on their end and I still keep my points, leaving a balance of $1. I basically have 5 days that I check what I need to do for about 10 minutes (let's say an hour a month to make sure everything is running like a finely tuned machine).

This isn't to say that I don't splurge though...I do. I travel back home often and I have a bit of a problem with technology with always swapping things out, but my required expenses? Very low

I drive electric and my student loans are basically all out. I am assuming with my little nest egg I should be able to get some properties cheap, rent them out to earn even more income to supplement my online work. I will get my own place without a lengthy mortgage comittment within the next year. I am really just undecided on where I want to go. I have grown quite fond of Lexington tbh, but get bored at times because there is no challenge left...It took me a long time to get to this point, but it was worth it to do it all on my own. I think Detroit is my next challenge to help thousands of people.

I've thought about offering a class for financial advice. Money should never be idle and with all the automation these days it is not hard to get all of that shyt taken care of. I have helped several of my friends locally with what appears to be a strict guideline for things, but I don't think it is.
 
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