I saw your list and didn't address it much because no offense didn't feel i need to , IMO it hurts your argument because if your a recent college graduate who doesn't have a job the LAST place you should be looking for one is somewhere where your rent is going to be $1500 /month (Boston) $1300/ month (Seattle) or $1600 ( DC ) that by logic makes no sense and to be honest i think major cities like those are the worst places to try and find jobs because the competition pool would be so huge , because every young professional is looking there to "make it" i would like to read the rest of the article post the link if you can, want to see what other things they factored in when they made this list.
This is the problem, you're so convinced of your argument that you're not listening. I don't know how to say this, I literally spend all my extracurricular time at law school on education issues, spent a lot of time on it in college. There is very little you're saying here that is grounded in reality. You path was so unconventional that I don't know if you realize that it's nowhere near what the average college student does (successful or unsuccessful). Naija boy and I broke this down once about employers seeking certain undergrads and the portability of degrees, I wish that post was still up.
So let me say this. What I said does not hurt my argument. What I said is reality. You keep playing this game of fiction where people can just walk into any run down city in the country and find a job that will enable them to pay back their loans and live a life. That is not realistic. There is nothing else to factor in on that list. I told you what is factored in (finding a job + affordability). Those are the only two factors weighed in that list. If you did read my post you would see that that I said if they straight up just listed "getting a job" you'd have all those highly expensive places in California on the list. But you running back to this "trying to make it" argument that is based more on anecdotal evidence than any sort of discernible factual history when I said, and I'm saying again, that most people find their first job based on the reach of their college degree (or some place they have established ties) unless you're at the tip top of your class then you're competitive almost everywhere. Ask @
SHAQAVELLI who just graduated from Penn St. where he got his first job at and what markets were the best for him.
Your second and third paragraph is what happens when people get into these college pick a degree and don't think about there future , i had to learn that the hard way the firs time, but honestly i don't understand what you mean by
No, my second and third paragraph are based on the statistics cited by Forbes, Yahoo, NY Times, The Wallstreet Journal, the Boston Globe, etc., but you keep playing this "but they made bad decisions game" if you want. I've argued about that stuff ad nauseum and scolded people about it. That is not the issue here AT ALL. The fact is, regardless of the degree, if it is not STEM, then you will have trouble finding work. It's like you're sitting here pretending 2008 didn't happen. You're the one who made the bold statement that jobs are everywhere, and then why I point out that they're not...you try to flip into "but but but but but it's their fault because of the major they chose." So basically, what you just admitted is that jobs are not everywhere and that they're only there for very specific professions. Even then, people are not finding work right at graduation far beyond where they went to school unless their degree has national reach or they have some other stand out quality. C'mon fam, this is just a fact. The size of a household is literally going up because in 2011 when I graduated 80% of college graduates went back home to live with their parents upon graduation. I don't know who these imaginary people are that you are talking about.
I disagree with your 4th paragraph but that also varies greatly by what career anyone is looking for, but we can use mine as a example i have a degree in social work which many times is ranked in the top 10 worst careers to find a job in. Back in jersey i found jobs all the time,as i mentioned before my problem was not so much finding was finding one that paid what i felt was enough $$, even when i started off in community college though from day 1 literally i was already thinking about where i could apply my degree by that i mean what types of job. Getting a first job is not hard, the problem arises that most people want there first job to be directly related to what there degree is in, my first two years of college i was still working my security guard job ( which was my first job and what makes up 6 years worth of expedience on my resume) , end of the 2nd year i got a internship position at a agency watching peoples kids while they signed welfare applications, far from what i had in mind BUT i knew it was a means to end my friend, eventually ended up supervising that same welfare unit at the end of the year. long story short though you said it before, you have to hustle COLLEGE DOESN'T AND SHOULDN'T GUARANTEE shyt.
Of course people want their first job to be somewhat related to what their major was in or at least applying those skills. But again, look at your specific situation. 6 years as a security guard + watching people's kids + focusing on social work. That sounds like a guaranteed combination to me, and a combination most people won't meet. Furthermore, I've said time and again in the past. These days employers won't hire you without experience, but you only get experience by working. Most internships are not paid so people can't afford to go work and live in the places that will give them experience unless that place is near their home. There are class action lawsuits being filed right now because of that very reason. You keep ignoring all these other factors. You lived in NJ, went to school in NJ and your experience was based in NJ, which directly supports my argument about you being land-locked based on your first job.
Last but not least no one rates social work at 10 worst careers to get a job in. It's rate is above the national average.
Quick Facts: Social Workers
2010 Median Pay$42,480 per year
$20.42 per hour
Entry-Level EducationSee How to Become One
Work Experience in a Related OccupationNone
On-the-job TrainingNone
Number of Jobs, 2010650,500
Job Outlook, 2010-2025% (Faster than average)
Employment Change, 2010-20161,200
Even now with this job i have now I have 0 prior experience in it, my 2 prior jobs before this have nothing to do with what i do now, expect for the fact that they all required a Social Work degree, but other than that they are opposite ends of the spectrum, but what got me this job? I moved to place that need people with my degree. FYI am not even adding the fact that i got TWO other job offers prior to the one i chose to accept, both of those again had NOTHING to do with my prior experience in the field. Its a supply and demand thing breh
Once again, I'm not exactly sure what you're arguing with me about except that your point seems to be get a job in ANYTHING. You don't need direct experience, you have social work experience. When I leave the firm I'm at, I won't necessarily need special experience in a field, my general overall skill set will be enough.
and honestly I WISH someone had told me 8 years ago to do what i did now. I would probably been finished paying off a house by now but you live and you learn.
Whenever i meet younger people in college now first thing i tell is start looking for a job in your field RIGHT NOW not when you graduate
People don't necessarily know what field they're going into as underclassmen, but they should be looking at the job prospects from a school and where most graduates go. Sure, I've said that time and again. But nobody waits until they graduate until they find a job, again, this isn't reality for most people. I really have no idea who these people are that are waiting until a month after they graduated to look for work. Schools have advisors, job fairs, set up interviews, etc. It's like you all think that my graduating class, @
acri1 graduating class, and the one's after us just suddenly became lazy bums with no sense. Come on fam.
