Famed songwriter Diane warren comes for Beyoncé “How can a song have 24 writers?”…. The dream responds!

[Uitomy]

The reason why this happens is songs are written by committee these days.
Major pop stars hold writing camps when they start a new project.
There was video with a guy explaining the process but I cant find it.
I found this article instead, which states the same as that video.

BBC Arts - BBC Arts - The pop-up hit factory: How a songwriter bootcamp helped Rihanna fight back

A-list producers and topliners were summoned to Los Angeles for two weeks and installed in studios around the city, their hotel and food all paid for. It was the kind of immensely expensive undertaking that only a major label can afford to arrange.

Nowhere are the production efficiencies of the track-and-hook method of writing better realised than in writer camp. A camp is like a pop-up hit factory. Labels and superstar artists convene them, and they generally last three or four days.
The usual format is to invite dozens or more track makers and topliners, who are mixed and matched in different combinations through the course of the camp, until every possible combination has been tried. Typically, a producer-topliner pair spends the morning working on a song, which they are supposed to finish by the lunch break. In the afternoon new pairs are formed by the camp counselors, and another song is written by dinner.

If the artist happens to be present, the artist circulates among the different sessions, throwing out concepts, checking on the works in progress, picking up musical pollen in one session and shedding it on others.

At the end of each morning and afternoon session, the campers come together and listen to one another’s songs. The peer pressure is such that virtually every session produces a song, which means twelve or more songs a day, or sixty a week, depending on the size of the camp.
The Rihanna writer camp was an elite affair. Ne-Yo was there, as was [Scandinavian production duo] Stargate, and Ester Dean. Jay Brown played counselor to the campers, under the aegis of Def Jam management.

The reason the labels do this is because they are trying guarantee hits by treating music like a GMO food product.
Take his drums, take his samples, take her verse, take her hook, take his keyboard part, take his bassline and put it all together.
By the time it's done, you have 15 writers splitting small percentages of the total songwriting publishing.
The artist who the song is for will get writing and production credit and a big slice of the publishing, whether they contributed or not.
Most times, they don't contribute anything,

What’s crazy to me is them lyrics sound like some shyt elementary students can write, like at this point in time they really can just throw whatever they want out there and make a hit these companies act like that shyt really requires a lot of work when most of the talent producing the tracks are good enough to make something hit anyway with the formulas they got.

 

[Sbp]

That dude Dream is such an ass kisser for the Carters it's pathetic

 

[Xcenai]

it is ridiculous honestly

 

[Paper Boi]

the cac is right

this shyt why modern pop music quality at an all time low


honestly if you need a hit you don't need 24 writers all you gotta do is put in the call to @Hathaway

 

[StretfordRed]

Even with samples, melodies, etc., 24 writer is a LOT for one song.

 

[AQz]

It’s a valid question just from the wrong person in the wrong manner.

 

[Roid Jones]

Never heard of Diane Warren, looking at her history she's put in work

 

[Big Boss]

24 writers????

 

[L@CaT]

What’s crazy to me is them lyrics sound like some shyt elementary students can write, like at this point in time they really can just throw whatever they want out there and make a hit these companies act like that shyt really requires a lot of work when most of the talent producing the tracks are good enough to make something hit anyway with the formulas they got.

The lyrics aren’t as important as the melodies. Once the artist has the Melody for the song she can always change some lyrics to hit her style later on

 

[Mike the Executioner]

The reason why this happens is songs are written by committee these days.
Major pop stars hold writing camps when they start a new project.
There was video with a guy explaining the process but I cant find it.
I found this article instead, which states the same as that video.

BBC Arts - BBC Arts - The pop-up hit factory: How a songwriter bootcamp helped Rihanna fight back

A-list producers and topliners were summoned to Los Angeles for two weeks and installed in studios around the city, their hotel and food all paid for. It was the kind of immensely expensive undertaking that only a major label can afford to arrange.

Nowhere are the production efficiencies of the track-and-hook method of writing better realised than in writer camp. A camp is like a pop-up hit factory. Labels and superstar artists convene them, and they generally last three or four days.
The usual format is to invite dozens or more track makers and topliners, who are mixed and matched in different combinations through the course of the camp, until every possible combination has been tried. Typically, a producer-topliner pair spends the morning working on a song, which they are supposed to finish by the lunch break. In the afternoon new pairs are formed by the camp counselors, and another song is written by dinner.

If the artist happens to be present, the artist circulates among the different sessions, throwing out concepts, checking on the works in progress, picking up musical pollen in one session and shedding it on others.

At the end of each morning and afternoon session, the campers come together and listen to one another’s songs. The peer pressure is such that virtually every session produces a song, which means twelve or more songs a day, or sixty a week, depending on the size of the camp.
The Rihanna writer camp was an elite affair. Ne-Yo was there, as was [Scandinavian production duo] Stargate, and Ester Dean. Jay Brown played counselor to the campers, under the aegis of Def Jam management.

The reason the labels do this is because they are trying guarantee hits by treating music like a GMO food product.
Take his drums, take his samples, take her verse, take her hook, take his keyboard part, take his bassline and put it all together.
By the time it's done, you have 15 writers splitting small percentages of the total songwriting publishing.
The artist who the song is for will get writing and production credit and a big slice of the publishing, whether they contributed or not.
Most times, they don't contribute anything,

Why did I laugh at this?

 

[Jermio]

Beyonce has like 5 brain cells. There are porn stars I'd rather marry.

 

[Cat piss martini]

Never heard of Diane Warren, looking at her history she's put in work

people read (Beyonce) saw a white woman
and went left not knowing that she's one
of the people that has the catalog to have
a fukkin opinion about this shyt.
like i said......her pen game is serious!!!!!
just found a list.

List of songs written by Diane Warren - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Seoul Gleou]

fukk beyonce and the dream. beyhive should focus on those monkeypox sores instead of twitter

 

[Anton]

She's been in the music business since the Cretaceous period; she knows how sampling/crediting works.

That haggardly broad just wanted to give a spicy hot take on this glorious 1st day of August; now she's copping pleas, deleting tweets and shedding White Woman Tears.

Samples lol… Beyonce has whole writing camps..

 

[85 East]

On some real shyt though, the royalties on that must be a bytch. Beyonce gotta have a great lawyer because the publishing headaches alone for that must be worth a mini fortune.