Facing Emergency, DC prepares to pass new crime bill/* Secure DC Act signed into law 03/11/24

[Voice of Reason]

I don't think some people how realize how deep the impact of the 80s crack era goes. You have crack babies from that era who had kids with no foundation or structure. Now those kids are having kids. The city cleaned up the mess from the crack era, but there's a lot of people who never really recovered. DC started going thru super rapid gentrification, making the problem even worse. It's an ugly situation without an easy solution.

Breh was just thinking about how hard the crack era hit the Black community. Especially low income areas, it had a profound impact.

 

[BigMan]

You cant force people to do better, you can only give them options. There will always be fukk ups. There will always be underachievers. There will always be the lazy and the indolent. You can not save everyone.

You can only provide a safe environment and support for those that want to do better. You can give free housing, stipends and free training for careers and there will be people that do not take advantage.

At this point you have to punish the parents for their children. From financial all the way to criminal punishments. They are creating this problem.

I agree with holding parents accountable

I just know that throwing them in jail and further pushing them to the outskirts of society will not have the desired effect

Those girls who killed the Uber driver in navy yard a while back had absent parents so frankly there’s no parents around to punish in a lot of cases

There is no easy solution here unfortunately

 

[Wink Beaufield]

I don't think some people how realize how deep the impact of the 80s crack era goes. You have crack babies from that era who had kids with no foundation or structure. Now those kids are having kids. The city cleaned up the mess from the crack era, but there's a lot of people who never really recovered. DC started going thru super rapid gentrification, making the problem even worse. It's an ugly situation without an easy solution.

And you can see how all that fukkery got pushed out to PG County due to that gentrification. This is a big reason why Charles County is blowing up.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Damn so bail reform is only going to last 3-4 yrs in these major cities
Yea the cops are trash but the criminals are even worse. Unfortunately these silent strikes by the various police departments across the country are proving what happens when you ease up and give offenders the benefit of the doubt

Who was ever pushing bail reform?

 

[desjardins]

Who was ever pushing bail reform?

Maybe states and cities passed bail reform laws the last couple years, google it

 

[num123]

I agree with holding parents accountable

I just know that throwing them in jail and further pushing them to the outskirts of society will not have the desired effect

There is no easy solution here unfortunately

The solutions i would give for this issue is this:

No funding for children if they were conceived outside out of marriage or a verifiable co parenting/habitation.

No funding for additional children born after getting on assistance

Working 40 hours/ 20 hours with school is mandatory for assistance for parents with children

Govt assistance is temporary from 1-3 years, getting it again after being taken off is made much harder to get on.

Children that are repeatedly committing crime/causing disruptions in school need to be sent to military school until they are 18, plus the parents have to fund it.

No leniency for violent crimes in regards to bail or sentencing.

No cash bail for those that are accused of multiple physically violent crimes. They do not get any "risk assessment" or special releases before trial. Here is an example of what not doing that causes: Cook County man said he'd 'be out by Sunday' after armed carjacking — will now serve 22 years in Will County

Provide mental health services to children/people to address undiagnosed issues that could cause issues with school and employment

Provide job/trade training to those that want it.

Improve the schools in struggling areas.

Provide after school programs that help with homework and post K-12 life.


The list can go on and on but there are solutions out there, the problem is getting the people that need it to organize politically and demand it.

 

[WIA20XX]

You cant force people to do better, you can only give them options. There will always be fukk ups. There will always be underachievers. There will always be the lazy and the indolent. You can not save everyone.

This is my main problem with the liberal/progressive response to crime.

12-Year-Old Accused in String of DC Armed Carjackings

The boy was arrested and charged Thursday in connection to nine crimes over a six-week period in March and April. D.C. police say other people were involved in a number of the crimes.

www.nbcwashington.com

This kid is a problem, and leaving him with his parents is not good.
Putting him in Juvie is not ideal either...

But places like DC have to weigh their options.

 

[num123]

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This is my main problem with the liberal/progressive response to crime.

12-Year-Old Accused in String of DC Armed Carjackings

The boy was arrested and charged Thursday in connection to nine crimes over a six-week period in March and April. D.C. police say other people were involved in a number of the crimes.

www.nbcwashington.com

This kid is a problem, and leaving him with his parents is not good.
Putting him in Juvie is not ideal either...

But places like DC have to weigh their options.

That child needs to be locked up or sent somewhere until they are 18 or older. You can get him mental evaluations, therapy, whatever but he does not need to be around the public. The parents need to be held responsible as well.

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

Crime in DC is down tho

 

[WIA20XX]

Crime in DC is down tho

Facing 'emergency,' DC prepares to pass new crime bill

D.C. Council it expected to vote on a crime bill on Tuesday as city leaders say the city is in a "state of emergency" due to crime

abcnews.go.com

As of Monday, homicide in Washington was up 17% year-to-date compared to 2022, while reported robberies were up 52% and motor vehicle thefts were up 117%, according to police statistics.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

And the foreigners from other 1st world countries, that come to Chicago, say this this country is like no other.

fukk does this have to do with our conversation

You and your dumb anecdotal bullshyt is why we don't have these back in forths. You don't value data or information at all. It's why your beliefs in how to do thinks aren't just unrealistic they're fukking stupid

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Anyone trying to paint crime as something that isn't driven by lack of money, food or opportunities is dumb as fukk and their opinion should be dismissed as mush brain drivel. fukking idiots

 

[Micky Mikey]

The solutions i would give for this issue is this:

No funding for children if they were conceived outside out of marriage or a verifiable co parenting/habitation.

No funding for additional children born after getting on assistance

Working 40 hours/ 20 hours with school is mandatory for assistance for parents with children

Govt assistance is temporary from 1-3 years, getting it again after being taken off is made much harder to get on.

Children that are repeatedly committing crime/causing disruptions in school need to be sent to military school until they are 18, plus the parents have to fund it.

No leniency for violent crimes in regards to bail or sentencing.

No cash bail for those that are accused of multiple physically violent crimes. They do not get any "risk assessment" or special releases before trial. Here is an example of what not doing that causes: Cook County man said he'd 'be out by Sunday' after armed carjacking — will now serve 22 years in Will County

Provide mental health services to children/people to address undiagnosed issues that could cause issues with school and employment

Provide job/trade training to those that want it.

Improve the schools in struggling areas.

Provide after school programs that help with homework and post K-12 life.


The list can go on and on but there are solutions out there, the problem is getting the people that need it to organize politically and demand it.

Lol some of these are just plain terrible and would have the complete opposite effect of what you're trying to prevent.

 

[num123]

Lol some of these are just plain terrible and would have the complete opposite effect of what you're trying to prevent.

It would be better if you list which ones and explain why.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Also. Remember that kid that got clapped breaking into cars? There's a lot of folks that would not convict the breh that shot that kid if they were on that jury.

Keep an eye on that trial when it come up.

Who would convict someone over this?

Anyone trying to paint crime as something that isn't driven by lack of money, food or opportunities is dumb as fukk and their opinion should be dismissed as mush brain drivel. fukking idiots

If this was the case then everyone that is poor would be committing crimes