Facebook did not hire Black employees because they were not a 'culture fit,' report says

[Astroslik]

But there are others that got jobs. What separated them from you and the other black men that didn't get jobs?

Ehh. The percentages in big law are still low as hell. There’s a glass ceiling with the amount of straight black men they will let in. You will find black women in these positions more often than not (still low percentage for them also).

btw none of these companies care about diversity. D&I is just a political buzzword now. I was talking to a partner and he said they were speaking the same shyt 20 years ago. Nothing has changed.

 

[Dr. Acula]

That's why Black people have that corporate voice and demenour then switch it up when in more familiar settings. It's very exhausting working with these corny cacs and their constant passive-aggression. I had a white bytch asking me if my father is the chief of my village since my English language is so good. She had a serious face the whole time too.

How did you respond to that shyt? I hope you at least gave her the stink face to make her second guess for even coming at you with that shyt.

 

[that guy]

Black people REALLY need to take this stuff seriously. These tech companies are the ones writing the algorithms that will have complete control over our lives and we don’t have a seat at the table. People are already pointing out how pro black Facebook pages, Instagram pages, YouTube channels get taken down all the time. The machine learning is the future and these programmers are writing the algorithms with built in racism. This is the 21st century digital version of Jim Crow. For example, studies have shown that black people pay more for car insurance and they can’t figure out why because they don’t have access to the algorithms. Here’s another article:

Millions of black people affected by racial bias in health-care algorithms


Millions of black people affected by racial bias in health-care algorithms

Study reveals rampant racism in decision-making software used by US hospitals — and highlights ways to correct it.

An algorithm widely used in US hospitals to allocate health care to patients has been systematically discriminating against black people, a sweeping analysis has found.

The study, published in Science on 24 October1, concluded that the algorithm was less likely to refer black people than white people who were equally sick to programmes that aim to improve care for patients with complex medical needs. Hospitals and insurers use the algorithm and others like it to help manage care for about 200 million people in the United States each year.

This type of study is rare, because researchers often cannot gain access to proprietary algorithms and the reams of sensitive health data needed to fully test them, says Milena Gianfrancesco, an epidemiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, who has studied sources of bias in electronic medical records. But smaller studies and anecdotal reports have documented unfair and biased decision-making by algorithms used in everything from criminal justice to education and health care.

“It is alarming,” says Gianfrancesco of the latest study. “We need a better way of actually assessing the health of the patients.”

Ziad Obermeyer, who studies machine learning and health-care management at the University of California, Berkeley, and his team stumbled onto the problem while examining the impact of programmes that provide additional resources and closer medical supervision for people with multiple, sometimes overlapping, health problems.

Examining assumptions
When Obermeyer and his colleagues ran routine statistical checks on data they received from a large hospital, they were surprised to find that people who self-identified as black were generally assigned lower risk scores than equally sick white people. As a result, the black people were less likely to be referred to the programmes that provide more-personalized care.

The researchers found that the algorithm assigned risk scores to patients on the basis of total health-care costs accrued in one year. They say that this assumption might have seemed reasonable because higher health-care costs are generally associated with greater health needs. The average black person in the data set that the scientists used had similar overall health-care costs to the average white person.

But a closer look at the data revealed that the average black person was also substantially sicker than the average white person, with a greater prevalence of conditions such as diabetes, anaemia, kidney failure and high blood pressure. Taken together, the data showed that the care provided to black people cost an average of US$1,800 less per year than the care given to a white person with the same number of chronic health problems.

The scientists speculate that this reduced access to care is due to the effects of systemic racism, ranging from distrust of the health-care system to direct racial discrimination by health-care providers.

And because the algorithm assigned people to high-risk categories on the basis of costs, those biases were passed on in its results: black people had to be sicker than white people before being referred for additional help. Only 17.7% of patients that the algorithm assigned to receive extra care were black. The researchers calculate that the proportion would be 46.5% if the algorithm were unbiased.

 

[69 others]

News like this can be discouraging but we still have to keep at it. Like the indians we have to bum rush that industry. They faced discrimination and still do but at this point they are unavoidable.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Black people shouldn't desire to work for a white supremacist company like FaceBook anyway.

Go on that site and say anything pro-black and get banned for 30 days


fukk that site.

No sympathy from me.

Stop begging the opps for a job.

This is dumb

Ppl have to work

Can't morality check your employer

Most companies have donated to conservatives

 

[that guy]

This is dumb

Ppl have to work

Exactly, black people NEED to work for these tech companies. The machine learning algorithms they’re creating have been shown time and time again to be racist. This is the digital version of Jim Crow. Instead of them writing the laws that will govern our lives they are writing the algorithms.

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

News like this can be discouraging but we still have to keep at it. Like the indians we have to bum rush that industry. They faced discrimination and still do but at this point they are unavoidable.

100%, the only other way is to make it impossible to bush us.

That starts with investing in our kids cause adults cant turn back the clock to go re-learn all these required tools to bum rush the system. This documentary really woke me up. If we miss that age 1-6 year window, then its a wrap for our kids education-wise

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This really bothers me to the point that I barely want to address it any further.

Theres white supremacists and even black conservative c00ns who will blame black candidates for their lack of success.

Bruh, they're QUALIFIED...they're NOT being hired. You can't HIRE YOURSELF. You can't GIVE YOURSELF EXPERIENCE. You can't NETWORK WITHOUT RECIPROCITY!

This is INSTITUTIONAL!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Exactly, black people NEED to work for these tech companies. The machine learning algorithms they’re creating have been shown time and time again to be racist. This is the digital version of Jim Crow. Instead of them writing the laws that will govern our lives they are writing the algorithms.

This is dumb

Ppl have to work

Can't morality check your employer

Most companies have donated to conservatives

precisely. you need this elite experience to learn to use those tools before you branch out.

Plus, people who left facebook, TOOK THEIR ACQUIRED SKILLS ELSEWHERE.

Where do people think Elon, Thiel, etc all got their experience? They didn't just jump out of undergrad into billions. They worked and got skills.

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

precisely. you need this elite experience to learn to use those tools before you branch out.

Plus, people who left facebook, TOOK THEIR ACQUIRED SKILLS ELSEWHERE.

Where do people think Elon, Thiel, etc all got their experience? They didn't just jump out of undergrad into billions. They worked and got skills.

our ancestors built their own villages, therefore it should be easy for us to build our own Silicon Valley and thrive. But we're lazy and depend on the white man

 

[The Realist Perspective]

I've never interviewed at Facebook, but I've heard the same thing from friends and colleagues who have, but the energy is the same at pretty much every tech (not even just tech) company based in the Bay (and probably white liberal areas in general.)

My old roommate (black female from the East Coast) had a friend (also black female from the East Coast) who went through the interview process there and declined the job, because (as she told my roommate) each interviewer was a different race, but the exact same person and it creeped her out. But, that's par for the course in tech and modern companies these days. My old roommate and I often talk about the workplace dynamic is awkward, because both of us are anti-integration, black before anything else and grew up mostly around black people. In truth, if you're black and you like black people more than white people, you're not going to be a culture fit for white tech or modern companies in general, which is what makes working in the industry quite miserable.

I remember at one hoo-rah!/share something you're interested in stand-up meetings we had, my homeboy from Brooklyn decided to talk about Marcus Garvey. "How many of you all have ever heard of Marcus Garvey?" Only four of us raised our hands. The only three black folks in the room... and a Greek-Chinese mixed dude who is actually hella cool peoples and digs deeper than superficial outrage into domestic and international socio-politics. Not one of our hyper-liberal white, Asian or gay "allies" in that room knew who Garvey was. Including the weirdo Asian chick with half-shaved green hair who, the next February, decided she was going to 'take initiative' and make posters, flags and annoy everyone to death on Slack about "civil rights" during Black History Month. Of course, her interest wasn't genuine. It was just a vehicle for her real goal of pushing psycho-feminist babble.

One of my mentors there (black guy, also from the East Coast) gave me the look (meaning he understood what I was saying, but it wasn't something that could be brought up in our environment) when I was telling him how hypocritical it was that tech companies, including where we were at, focused so hard on girls and women when black boys and young black men across the Bay in East Oakland were the ones who need actual help.

I'm going to get negged and some crybaby bytch is going to try and sic the mods on me for this, but FB's workplace politics have nothing to do with conservatives or Donald Trump. White and Asian liberals are not our fukking friends. A group of people old roommate's job (remember, she's a black female) tried to gang up on her for saying she went to Chick Fil A. 'We just wanted to let you know in case you didn't that they're not a company that supports the LGBT community.' None of these companies don't want actual diversity (of thought), they want different-looking skin colors and sex identities so they can meet quotas and have field days promoting themselves during X Awareness Month - that's it. Stop trying to deflect white liberal "allies" who pander to you's anti-blackness onto other groups. Why is this so shocking to understand for a lot of people?

FAX. DIVERSITY IS ONLY IN THE PIGMENTATION OF SKIN, NOT MINDSET - HOMO ACTIVITIES EXCUSED.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

our ancestors built their own villages, therefore it should be easy for us to build our own Silicon Valley and thrive. But we're lazy and depend on the white man

They have the job requirements saying you needs 5 years experience then prevent you from getting experience

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why would you want to work at a place where you're not wanted?

If it was a woman being chased we'd call it simping

is this your argument for fewer black people wanting to work in high finance?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What's stopping an American-educated breh from becoming a big fish in a small pond?

experience

which they prevent

Robert Smith and David Steward got EXPERIENCE before they branched out.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Lmaooooo When liberals say it, their "black friend" is almost always gay, a black chick upset she got called a roach in third-grade or someone who had zero black friends until college.

The security guard for our building was a young black dude (found out my ex-girlfriend was actually his like teacher's assistant or something in a class in high school, lol) and one day around lunch he and I were just talking about random shyt. This white chick who worked on a different floor comes in and while she's waiting for the elevator, all of a sudden starts talking to us like this... ...'cause she's excited for the weekend, as her friends and she are driving to Vegas to see Migos. Y'all know how white folks do the "ROCK ON DUDE" hand sign, but with their hands in front of their chest, pointed at an angle? That's exactly what she did, with her right leg raised in the air for some reason, when she told us, "...and I'm PUMPED!" Brehs, I'm so glad the elevator arrived for her then, 'cause five seconds later dude and I were fukking on the floor crying laughing.


But yeah, I mean, "culture fit" is tough. I got along better with my Japanese co-workers than white American ones. I get why companies want it, though... It's not really all the way nefarious, it's mostly their way of keeping you thinking about work 24/7. If your work environment is "culturally-compatible" for you, you'll want to spend most of your time around your co-workers and at work. Most everyone I know of who wasn't black's main "friend group" were their co-workers. They do everything with each other. After work, dinner together. Weekend events together.

"Hey sosayeth, wanna come to X with us this weekend?"
*three days later*
"Oh my bad, I ain't even see this until today."

People like me are who they're trying to not hire. Lol

I also remember silently pissing a bunch of people off when I wanted to listen to gospel music one day and decided to do so in the space where we could do that without headphones. I'm not even Christian. But, I grew up in church like most black kids in my age group and gospel music from my era still goes. So many people were aggy af at me that day, but fukk it, I was in a Christ-like mood jammning out Fred Hammond, Mahlia Jackson, Kirk Franklin, Yolanda Adams, James Cleveland, etc. etc.

right. Culture is basically an excuse for them to do some MAD MEN shyt on company hours: drinking, sex, flirting, etc. Its all about the social life, not the actual job aspects.