European vs North American description of the Moors

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Chesirecatdaddy said:
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SkillClash said:
fukk out of here before i lay some knowledge about european history
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go ahead dirty ass translucent cac...

and ill be sure to debunk european "achievements", and post clusters of how much of a percentage yall had admixture of black blood; and how much influence you euro nuts absorbed from the very cultures you hated...
 
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Kemet_Rocky said:
go ahead dirty ass translucent cac...

and ill be sure to debunk european "achievements", and post clusters of how much of a percentage yall had admixture of black blood; and how much influence you euro nuts absorbed from the very cultures you hated...
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and ill repeat that are cultures shared information with others, and that knowledge doesn't imply "ownership" of it......

but european achievements...hmm lets see

thats a long list buddy
 
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Swagnificent said:
Do you know how the Greeks and Romans used to describe the Germanic tribes to the north? How they differentiated themselves? Berbers and the africans to the south looked as different from each other as the Greeks did from the Germans. Are the Greeks a different race than the Germans in today's modern concept of race? And you can't use the cop out you used last time about the 2 groups being at war. You just admitted that the Berbers were at war with other Africans just like the Romans fought the Germanic tribes.

No one has ever suggested all black africans are the same. No one has suggested the Berbers were identical to their neighbors to the south. All we're saying is that they were black under the modern conception of black just as the Germans and Greeks are considered white.
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Did the Greeks and Romans constantly refer to Germanic tribes as "white tribes, white people"? No, they called them barbarians, savages and used such words however the Berbers constantly refer to sub-saharan tribes as Black. If the Berbers were predominantly black themselves they would have used other words to differentiate themselves from sub-saharan Africans. This is common sense cotdammit.

I've brought many examples of Berbers clearly differentiating themselves from sub-saharan tribes, you're attempt to explain that is laughable to be honest.

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okay I have another question for you since you keep going on about there being a mix of Moors

what was the leadership primarily? was it 50% black, 50% tanned. or 90% tanned, 10% black, etc. cause every time I hear arguments like this for the Moors or Egyptians being mixed, the implication almost always is that the leadership was white (or tanned in your case) and it was the foot soldiers or slaves that were black.
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I couldn't say what percentage was black or not. None of us can. What I do know is that the General of that army was Tariq Ibn Ziyad.
He was a Berber from North Africa. Even here there are several different versions, and modern workers who accept a Berber origin tend to settle on one version or another without giving any reason for so doing.[3] The Berber tribes associated with these ancestries (Zenata, Walhāṣ, Warfajūma, Nafzā) were, in Tariq's time, all resident in Tripolitania.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_ibn_Ziyad
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I've already talked about the Zenata tribe and how they moved away from Libya due to the advancing Arab Banu Hilal tribe.
Van Taak said:
The Marinid came from the Zenata tribe that was located somewhere around Tunisia/Libya and where forced to migrate West to Morocco to escape the Arab Banu Hilal invasion.

So the Marinid escaped from the invading Arab Banu Hilal tribe therefore no mixing could have taken part there. Also the white slaves started arriving at North African markets in the 16th century however the Marinid only ruled until the 15th.
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The Warfajuma is a Berber tribe associated with the Sufri Khaliji which come from Northern Algeria (Tlemcen).
I couldn't find anything on the Walhas and all I found on the Nafza was that they were a Berber tribe.

The leaders of the Moors gave their allegiance to the Muslim Caliphate in Syria. Like @Chesirecatdaddy said, the uniting factor was Islam. I myself said that on page 4 or 5.

You're final post was useless as always, you my friend, is guilty of the crime known as reaching.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me when the whitewashing (with dates) of the Berber happened. I gave you detailed evidence of the Berber Dynasties from the time they ruled Southern Spain to present day. Dates, sources, everything. Even cross checking them with quotes by the explorer Ibn Battuta. Bring me the evidence, real evidence, not the BS you've been posting about Germanic tribes. I want to know when and what caused the whitewashing of the Berbers.
 
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