ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America Series [Discussion Thread]

[jadillac]

Valid point... I will say this.... Ron's pops was talking about Ron starting up a "business" and the "blueprints" were in the house

my thing is, how was Ron gonna start a business while working only with a restaurants salary? Not saying it's impossible, but.....


Considering the fate some of his friends/co-workers suppsedly met, there was alot of drug dealing going on.

And the doc left out Goldman was allegedly driving around Brentwood in Nicoles fancy cars(owned by OJ). They painted him like he didn't know her and just happened to have the glasses. If he & her were total strangers, you simply call and say, "Ms Simpson, your glasses are here to come pick them up". There was no Google maps back then.....dude knew exactly the address where he was going.

 

[Dillah810]

 

[Henry Orbit]

After watching Part 5, wouldn't be surprised if the Goldmans paid that guy to set O.J. up.

Kind of reminded me of Donald Sterling; we know he did some wicked things in his past, but finally got caught up in the dumbest way

 

[broller]

Here's what OJ said what hypothetical happen that night of the murders from his if I did it book

Chapter 6: This chapter covers the murders. The first part goes over the timeline immediately following the recital. The latter portion is Simpson's "hypothetical" take on the murders of Brown and Goldman at Brown's home.

Simpson wears the blood-stained gloves found by the LAPD and entered into evidence in Simpson's murder trial. Prosecutors sought to prove that the gloves fit Simpson's hands.Reuters
Simpson and Kato Kaelin, who was staying in Simpson's guesthouse, get burgers after Simpson returns from the recital. Simpson begins to pack for a flight to Chicago later that night when Charlie shows up. This is where Simpson clarifies that the following is "hypothetical."

Charlie is a fictional acquaintance who reveals information about Brown that sets Simpson off. Charlie says that some friends of his were in Cabo when they saw Brown and her friend Faye at a party.

"There was a lot of drugs and a lot of drinking, and apparently things got pretty kinky," Charlie recounts.

Simpson decides that "Nicole was the enemy" and tells Charlie to get in the Bronco because they are "going to scare the s--- out of that girl."

He grabs a wool hat, the infamous gloves that would later be used as evidence at the trial, and a knife stashed under the seat, but Charlie takes the knife from him. After entering through a broken back gate, Simpson notices that Brown has candles in the window, which he presumes are for a man she is expecting.

At this point, Ron Goldman, a waiter from the restaurant the Brown family ate at, arrives with glasses left by Nicole's mom. This sparks Simpson's rage and he begins screaming. Brown emerges from her house and starts yelling back. She attempts to come after him, but slips and hits her head. Goldman gets in a karate stance and Simpson grabs the knife from Charlie before blacking out.

After regaining consciousness, Simpson is covered in blood, unsure of what's just happened. Before getting back in the Bronco, he undresses and wraps his bloody clothes in a bundle. He passes the waiting limo on his way back to his house and pulls off into the shadows, leaving the weapon and clothes to Charlie and instructing him to park the car and leave when the limo pulls away.

As he's running back and sneaking into his house, Simpson bumps into an air-conditioning unit, which startles Kato. He washes up, gets in the limo, and flies off to Chicago where he gets the phone call about his wife's murder. After arriving back in LA, he agrees to go talk to the cops with no lawyers present.

 

[King P]

I wonder how oj 2 youngest kids think of him

His daughter Sydney has come out and said that she believes that OJ killed Nicole, but she's forgiven him and wants to make peace with him because OJ's still her father and the only parent she has left. She doesn't wanna abandon him

 

[Mr210]

His daughter Sydney has come out and said that she believes that OJ killed Nicole, but she's forgiven him and wants to make peace with him because OJ's still her father and the only parent she has left. She doesn't wanna abandon him

Wow I didn't know that

 

[pickles]

OK I finally watched the whole thing.

First of all, this whole documentary had a whole lot of in it.

Stay awoke brehs.

Second of all, all the shyt that his cac agent said is basically garbage. When OJ finally stops paying him, he steals his belongings, memorabilia? What kind of shyt is that? That dude was a straight scum bag.

Ol'dude talking about "since when have you ever ate fried chicken OJ"? He has a black mama, of course he eats fried chicken, wtf?

The civil trial was moved to Santa Monica, and that cac lawyer was all like "now we have the right kind of jury"

The cac in miami talking about OJ was hanging around thug elements ()

OJ with that Miami decadence. I didn't know about the rap videos though.

The Kardashian reference.

He got 33 years for that robbery? Wtf?

As you can see brehs, from that Stanford swimmer rape case, judges really aint shyt. That female judge should be thrown off the bench. He should have gotten only 2 years for what he did.

Papa Goldman really aint shyt either. He was a straight money grubbing jew. Even the Browns were against the release of the book, because they were like it is not going to bring Nicole back.

OJ's cac friends really aint shyt either. Did that one cac producer call himself a "cuckold" in Ch.4?
Of course all them motherfukkers turned on him.

You still in Hall of Fame OJ, they can't take that away from you breh.

And you still got Al Cowlings, best friend every one should have. x100


Why is this documentary treating OJ like he is dead?

Sigh, free OJ, leave that man alone.

That breh with raspy voice is correct though, that is white justice.

Kill a black teenager walking home from the store
Kill a kid sitting in park with fake gun

Kill a man inside a police vehicle


But kill two white folk, they never forget or forgive.


ETA: Makes me want to watch that FX OJ miniseries. It was soooo good. :ohlord:



ETA: Marsha Clark a fukken hoe, bytch talking about the jury member who was an exPanther like that shyt was a terrorist group. This dusty bytch here.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I just don't understand why OJ needed all those rent a goons to confront that one white guy
He was clearly coked up

 

[pickles]

@mson

Narrative and the theme:

the show create and push a false narrative that the black jurors just weren't smart enough to convict, so the trial was already lost at jury selection with "dumb and biased panel". You can see this by how the doc set the tone from the beginning, giving the viewer a pure wide intense scope of the racial climate in the US and in LA when racial tension was boiling over at the highest. They even had pieces on the migration of southern black americans to cali...that's how the commentators want you to follow throughout the doc scene by scene, very subtly influencing on our perception of The OJ Trial, that's the power of storytelling .

"let him get off" is just seamlessly them trying to put us "on blast" by viewing the working class black people "putting on" for him, like blacks people were the ones "brainwashed" back in the 90's because of all these other unjust cases( Watts riots, the killings of Eula Love and Latasha Harlins, the destruction of the apartments at 39th and Dalton and the beating of Rodney King) and the mistreatment we face by them which they believe build a deep-seated animosity that was so uncontrolled that it wrongfully guild are decision making ability. Now keep follow the theme, we got the commentators shaping audience again later on with the "pound cake/c00ning stuff"(im not black, I'm OG. etc) sending underling message over and over again to us(black people) that he's just like like Bill Cosby so "don't ride for him!!! "HE'S A c00n" but ESPN & Fox got no problem with they pet negro on they shows(making money from both side). Also the ridiculous notion of affluent Black symbol in the 94 (kind of like Cosby), nope he was the hero to cacs and they build him up for his demeanor/greatness "transcend race" feeling , which they try to do Ali but black ppl peak game.


The doc don't work on inform non-cac lover system holders who actually research the case, the "Im white and we said so" so im going to beat you over and over the head with it until it becomes the truth ... doesn't work on me, they slanted the OJ Trial in this doc to seem like oj was clearly guilty, all in all this whole doc was painting the verdict shady, laughable & should not be taken seriously by given the impression that black people on the jury are incompetent and incapable of being fair and balance. The out right disrespect them(black jurors) by giving the impression that they some how wave the evidence and didnt based they decision on the evidence, which they did. Aslo the doc was also was created to play on the term "Race Card", when common sense tell us yes the cops was racist to the point logically the planted evidence, if you took the racial components this case would've been thrown out of court. Cochran expose the cops and left them wide-open but even then people don't want to hear it.


now if look at this case right, you will see common sense:

1. too many holes in the case. got rid of all the evidence (, gloves, clothes, washed up and clean up,) now at the airport at the short amount of time....he's not superman

2. no motive. no murder weapon found. no witness. no bloody clothing. neither of the gloves they "found" (AKA planted evidence) fit him.

3. all the blood at the scene but he only had one drop of blood in the car, with all the dna had EDTA chemicals which prove it was planted. Ol boy detective didn't carry the blood he collected back to the lab, now out nowhere oj blood was missing in the lab...c'mon now

etc

also....

Excellent fukken points

I would rep you if I could.

They made it seem like the jury was filled with dummies () when in fact Marsha Clark, LAPD, the crime lab fukked this case up and Johnny Cochran and company excelled in proving that OJ Simpson was not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[threattonature]

My nikka....no the fukk they didn't.... Part 4 was 90% about how LAPD fukked up the case, giving the window to the jury to give a not guilty verdict based on what and how shyt was presented to them

The difference is that the documentary showed how the defense provided reasonable doubt by making the LAPD look incompetent but did not show the evidence that would make you question if OJ actually committed the murders. All that's ever talked about is the "mountain of evidence". Most people who watched this doc will come out thinking that they maybe could see why OJ got off but still believes that he killed them based on the mountain of evidence. There are a lot of logical reasons that make some such as myself question if OJ was the actual killer which has been mentioned throughout this thread.

Questions such as:

Why was there so little blood in the Bronco after such brutal murders?
Why was OJ's blood missing out of the sample that he took?
Why was there no blood around the glove?
If OJ jumped the fence why was there no blood on the leafs where he supposedly jumped the fence and why was all the shrubbery undisturbed when he would've had to move it to jump the fence?
Timeline wise there were neighbors of Nicole who placed the murder timeline later in the night which would take OJ out of the picture. All gave their accounts the next morning as soon as they talked to cops. One being a guy walking his dog (who reported seeing a white Ford truck and a big white guy plus another behind the door talking to Nicole), a couple on a bad date, and another who was taking a walk during a study breaks so why was the earlier timeline accepted as the given time of death outside of it being the only time they could pin it on OJ?

It's still possible OJ did it or hired somebody and was there to verify. I just don't think it's as open and close as it's portrayed that he was the killer.

 

[Kane]

I had no idea this nikka OJ was wildin like that in Miami

Dude had probably the craziest life of any athlete ever.

 

[thaKEAF]

 

[bdkane]

OK I finally watched the whole thing.

First of all, this whole documentary had a whole lot of in it.

Stay awoke brehs.

Second of all, all the shyt that his cac agent said is basically garbage. When OJ finally stops paying him, he steals his belongings, memorabilia? What kind of shyt is that? That dude was a straight scum bag.

Ol'dude talking about "since when have you ever ate fried chicken OJ"? He has a black mama, of course he eats fried chicken, wtf?

The civil trial was moved to Santa Monica, and that cac lawyer was all like "now we have the right kind of jury"

The cac in miami talking about OJ was hanging around thug elements ()

OJ with that Miami decadence. I didn't know about the rap videos though.

The Kardashian reference.

He got 33 years for that robbery? Wtf?

As you can see brehs, from that Stanford swimmer rape case, judges really aint shyt. That female judge should be thrown off the bench. He should have gotten only 2 years for what he did.

Papa Goldman really aint shyt either. He was a straight money grubbing jew. Even the Browns were against the release of the book, because they were like it is not going to bring Nicole back.

OJ's cac friends really aint shyt either. Did that one cac producer call himself a "cuckold" in Ch.4?
Of course all them motherfukkers turned on him.

You still in Hall of Fame OJ, they can't take that away from you breh.

And you still got Al Cowlings, best friend every one should have. x100


Why is this documentary treating OJ like he is dead?

Sigh, free OJ, leave that man alone.

That breh with raspy voice is correct though, that is white justice.

Kill a black teenager walking home from the store
Kill a kid sitting in park with fake gun

Kill a man inside a police vehicle


But kill two white folk, they never forget or forgive.


ETA: Makes me want to watch that FX OJ miniseries. It was soooo good. :ohlord:



ETA: Marsha Clark a fukken hoe, bytch talking about the jury member who was an exPanther like that shyt was a terrorist group. This dusty bytch here.

 

[bdkane]

at Travolta comparing this to RFK, MlK and JFK. Two people hardly anyone knew of until after the murders. I was in my early twenties and had never heard of Nicole.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

This is a good documentary.

OJ may have been the GOAT c00n. WOW