ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America Series [Discussion Thread]

[Kyle Barker]

Does anybody know where I can find that little music video with OJ rapping?

 

[Mr. Foxx Foxx]

Did I miss something, about Ron and Nicole's relationship? they acted like he was just a waiter who was personally returning her glasses to her. That's some good service.

 

[True Blue Moon]

I'm on Episode 5. Great doc. A lot of the white ignorance in this is hard to sit through lol.

 

[Collateral]

Did I miss something, about Ron and Nicole's relationship? they acted like he was just a waiter who was personally returning her glasses to her. That's some good service.

Supposedly they had a platonic relationship only about a month or so before they died. She even let him use her Rarri

 

[DoubleClutch]

Crazy how race is so much a part of all this. It's like OJs fame and the murder are secondary, Just a backdrop to this example of how racially divided blacks and whites were in America during the 90s

The reaction footage is

 

[Mr. Foxx Foxx]

Supposedly they had a platonic relationship only about a month or so before they died. She even let him use her Rarri

Dang, Ron basically died in one final attempt to break out the friend zone.

 

[TBdaGhost]

So basically OJ uses whatever group of people he had to?

First whites, then black power, black churches. Then gangster shyt, bad boys.

He was a master manipulator/liar. He would change the way he acts depending on who he's around.

 

[TheNig]

That's what you got out of this?

Who wants to associate themselves with someone who likely murdered two people? You guys are wild man. If OJ would have been able to control himself he would still be eating well with all that white power he had on his side.

Dude literally could have had it all and likely part owner of an NFL team at this point.

You missed my point.


It goes back to a post I made earlier about him tryna immediately insert himself after the trial. When they decided they were done with him, they were done.

 

[#StarkSet]

And now we got GoT

 

[Nostalgic]

 

[TBdaGhost]

" I thought we were friends
"

" I trusted you man
"
"if this was LA you'd all be laying down
"
"OJ don't take my phone man, I just got it "

That whole robbery story was hilarious. Toolin up to get his pictures back. Start takin rose and Montana stuff. "that stuffs not yours "

 

[Ol’Otis]

bob shapiro

 

[#StarkSet]

Did anyone read that book?

 

[Mensch Fontana]

OJs story should be a precautionary tale to anyone of color not to get caught up in the white man's world.

 

[loyola llothta]

what about the blood everywhere. In his bronco. The cut on his left finger. The blood drops on the left side of the killers footprints. The fact he had beat the shyt out of her multiple times

@mson

Narrative and the theme:

the show create and push a false narrative that the black jurors just weren't smart enough to convict, so the trial was already lost at jury selection with "dumb and biased panel". You can see this by how the doc set the tone from the beginning, giving the viewer a pure wide intense scope of the racial climate in the US and in LA when racial tension was boiling over at the highest. They even had pieces on the migration of southern black americans to cali...that's how the commentators want you to follow throughout the doc scene by scene, very subtly influencing on our perception of The OJ Trial, that's the power of storytelling .

"let him get off" is just seamlessly them trying to put us "on blast" by viewing the working class black people "putting on" for him, like blacks people were the ones "brainwashed" back in the 90's because of all these other unjust cases( Watts riots, the killings of Eula Love and Latasha Harlins, the destruction of the apartments at 39th and Dalton and the beating of Rodney King) and the mistreatment we face by them which they believe build a deep-seated animosity that was so uncontrolled that it wrongfully guild are decision making ability. Now keep follow the theme, we got the commentators shaping audience again later on with the "pound cake/c00ning stuff"(im not black, I'm OG. etc) sending underling message over and over again to us(black people) that he's just like like Bill Cosby so "don't ride for him!!! "HE'S A c00n" but ESPN & Fox got no problem with they pet negro on they shows(making money from both side). Also the ridiculous notion of affluent Black symbol in the 94 (kind of like Cosby), nope he was the hero to cacs and they build him up for his demeanor/greatness "transcend race" feeling , which they try to do Ali but black ppl peak game.


The doc don't work on inform non-cac lover system holders who actually research the case, the "Im white and we said so" so im going to beat you over and over the head with it until it becomes the truth ... doesn't work on me, they slanted the OJ Trial in this doc to seem like oj was clearly guilty, all in all this whole doc was painting the verdict shady, laughable & should not be taken seriously by given the impression that black people on the jury are incompetent and incapable of being fair and balance. The out right disrespect them(black jurors) by giving the impression that they some how wave the evidence and didnt based they decision on the evidence, which they did. Aslo the doc was also was created to play on the term "Race Card", when common sense tell us yes the cops was racist to the point logically the planted evidence, if you took the racial components this case would've been thrown out of court. Cochran expose the cops and left them wide-open but even then people don't want to hear it.


now if look at this case right, you will see common sense:

1. too many holes in the case. got rid of all the evidence (, gloves, clothes, washed up and clean up,) now at the airport at the short amount of time....he's not superman

2. no motive. no murder weapon found. no witness. no bloody clothing. neither of the gloves they "found" (AKA planted evidence) fit him.

3. all the blood at the scene but he only had one drop of blood in the car, with all the dna had EDTA chemicals which prove it was planted. Ol boy detective didn't carry the blood he collected back to the lab, now out nowhere oj blood was missing in the lab...c'mon now

etc

also....

Text of the 15 points of reasonable doubt cited by defense attorney Johnnie Cochran Jr.:

1. Why ... did the blood show up on the sock almost two months after a careful search for evidence and why, as demonstrated by Dr. Lee and Professor MacDonell, was the blood applied when there was no foot in it?
2. Why was Mark Fuhrman, a detective who had been pushed off the case, the person who went by himself to the Bronco, over the fence to interrogate Kato to discover the glove and the thump-thump-thump area?
3. Why was the glove still moist when Fuhrman found it if Mr. Simpson had dropped it seven hours earlier?
4. If Mark Fuhrman ... would speak so openly about his intense genocidal racism to a relative stranger such as Kathleen Bell, how many of his co-workers, the other detectives in this case, were also aware that he lied when he denied using the n-word, yet failed to come forward?
5. Why did the prosecution not call a single police officer to rebut police photographer Rokahr's testimony that Detective Fuhrman was pointing at the glove before - before Fuhrman went to Rockingham?: That is, around 4:30 in the morning.
6. If the glove had been dropped on the walkway at Rockingham 10 minutes after the murder, why is there no blood or fiber on that south walkway or on the leaves the glove was resting on. Why is there no blood in the 150 feet of narrow walkway, on the stucco walk abutting it?
7. For what purpose was Vannatter carrying Mr. Simpson's blood in his pocket for three hours and a distance of 25 miles instead of booking it down the hall at Parker Center?
8. Why did Deputy District Attorney Hank Goldberg, in a desperate effort to cover up for the missing 1.5 milliliters of Mr. Simpson's blood, secretly go out to the home of police nurse Thano Peratis without notice to the defense and get him to contradict his previous sworn testimony at both the grand jury and the preliminary hearing?
9. Why if, according to Ms. Clark, he walked into his own house wearing the murder clothes and shoes is there not any soil or so much as a smear or drop of blood associated with the victims on the floor, the white carpeting, the doorknobs, thelight switches, and his bedding?
10. If Mr. Simpson had just killed Mr. Goldman in a bloody battle involving more than two dozen knife wounds - where Mr. Goldman remained standing and struggling for several minutes - how come there is less than seven-tenths of one drop of blood consistent with Mr. Goldman found in the Bronco?
11. Why following a bitter struggle alleged with Mr. Goldman were there no bruises or marks on O.J. Simpson's body?
12. Why do bloodstains with the most DNA not show up until weeks after the murders?
13. Why did Mark Fuhrman lie to us?
14. Why did Phil Vannatter lie to us?
15. Given Professor MacDonell's testimony that the gloves would not have shrunk no matter how much blood was smeared on them, and given that they never shrank on June 21, 1994, until now despite being repeatedly frozen and thawed, how come the gloves just don't fit?