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I hate that y'all constantly compare Eminem's sales, success, singles, etc. to other rappers.

It's 2013 and y'all still ain't accept that Eminem is a POP star?

Over half of Eminem's fan base listens to NO other rappers.

Eminem's core fan base are not hip hop heads. Don't ever get that confused. :camby:

ASame for Drake, Kanye and Jay then
 

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I like how Eminem "can't make songs" when he is the only rapper who carries ENTIRE ALBUMS with barely any guest appearances, and barely any guests doing hook duties.

His songwriting skills are actually his biggest strength. He comes up with a concept, whether silly or serious, and sticks to it with his three verses, while usually handling the hook himself as well. Very few rappers are good songwriters. Sometimes they can't even stay on topic within a single verse.

You know more about Eminem's personal life than 99% of rappers - but he can't make songs? Just makes a bunch of fart songs and talks about killing pop stars? What kind of fukking Narnia are you living in?

For real...people are imagining what Eminem's fan base looks like, and passing that off as a real statement? "Oh, everyone who buy's Eminem albums only likes rap from so-and-so and so-and-so." Who sits back, and imagines stuff like this? Do you not see how weird and sad it is? (puts fingers in ears) la la la! Everybody who likes _____ also likes _____! La la la!

Most of the people here are really shytty critics, who can't articulate what they don't like about music, and who get such a big raging hate boner for certain rappers, they can't listen to music objectively anyway. Just a bunch of BS, page after page after page. Post an emoticon, make a shocking statement, jack off....wash, rinse, repeat.
 

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These Stars (Jay, Kanye, Drake, Em) arent just artist who can release whatever the hell they want. They are businesses for their labels. Business provide the public will a product (retail) that will be popular and sell.


So Jay Releasing American Gangster and Kanye releasing Yeezus wasn't them releasing whatever the hell they want?

I swear for all the frontin you CaCs do online, you really have a not-so-subtle way of unintentionally exposing your whiteness and lack-of-knowledge when it comes to anything Hip-Hop. Stay in your little padded bracket of protected sub-genre bliss.

:camby:
 

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You can't be fukkin serious

I'm not even gonna debate this with you breh

If you don't get it, I can't help you :snoop:

Been to a drake concert and a kanye one iin London cant even talk hiphop in the line with people
 

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My timeline is nothing but Iverson and Eminem :wow:

Blast from the past.
 

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Name them, so I can check for em...




Couldn't make it any further than this, sorry. :yeshrug:

I'm guessing by general public you mean people who are/aren't avid Hip-Hop fans. The typical Eminem/Nelly/Wayne/Drake album purchasers, consisting of white teens, suburbanites, and the top 40 crowd. Not that it makes their opinion on Hip-Hop comparisons invalid, but it's definitely something to :ehh: about. Not only did Pusha's album get exactly what you're mentioning in various outlets, but he didn't have the "popular rapper, platinum albums before, being white = easily getting white fans to buy millions of albums" angle working for him, and still got various rave reviews for AOTY. Agree to disagree though. I hear you, fam.

Listen here nikka. You gonna speak to me about what determines what hip hop is? I am hip hop.

Let me remind you my entire career, I gave you content that contained extreme aggression. What I offered you on Get Rich Or Die Tryin' was all the dysfunctional behavior I had seen all my entire life and I became the album in the general public's eyes. They embraced me.

Now the actual response I get as an artist has changed completely.

You fell off. You never had anything marketed or promoted for three years. And them not understanding because it’s my final contract requirement. Contractually, if you go through an audit process and if you find things where you haven’t been paid, it’s a process for legal to actually write the check. You can’t deliver the record in between that time period. You got to wait until it’s completely dealt with. Now that it’s done, I can launch.

Em gave you that same aggressive content in the horrorcore material on Relapse but his fans did not give him the reaction he wanted and he went with Recovery. I personally as a fan was excited about the Relapse 2 material but it was shelved because he went back the drawing board because the reactions was not what the label wanted to hear.

Let the man mature.

If I’m exactly like the old 50 at this point, that means I didn’t grow. It would be a tragedy if you were the same person that you were 10 years ago. It would mean that you simply fell behind. You’re not learning anything. You’re not wiser or more experienced in different territories and 10 years passed? You just fell behind. What’s cool about that?

I can't take people like you too seriously though. We will see who is right. All of this is exciting to me, and we should see how everyone responds to this.
 

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ayoooo....they sampled "Time of the Season" though :lupe:

...i really wasnt really expecting shyt but the first 2 songs.. man. :whew:
 
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