Elon Musk wants a free speech utopia. Technologists clap back.

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I'm not in here advocating for absolitist free speech but if these platforms in their current states don't allow for hate speech, and people like Elon are advocating to change that, how is it that white men have been and are continuing to be radicalized on these same privately owned platforms right now?

They did a terrible job. Hopefully they are sincere about their efforts to root out hate speech that can radicalize people. I don't understand your point. Because they can't root out 100% of hate speech, they shouldn't root out any at all?
 

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They did a terrible job. Hopefully they are sincere about their efforts to root out hate speech that can radicalize people. I don't understand your point. Because they can't root out 100% of hate speech, they shouldn't root out any at all?

I'd argue that they're doing the best job they can given the fact that the people who are most effective at spreading hateful messages have learned to tailor their content to stay within the bounds of the platform's TOS while simultaneously using these platforms to funnel people to private spaces where the real action happens.
 

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it's almost as if a newspaper website is different from a social media site.:ohhh:


Twitter is more of a news distributor than a social media site at this point. Being able to push a button and make any piece of news you want go viral on a website as big as Twitter is probably the play here. :yeshrug:
 

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I’d rather keep everything free speech. Don’t you guys remember from like 2005 to 2012 when all the racist were relegated to storm front? That shyt used to have 50k members!

Pushing them all into one corner is what created the 2014 to 2017 Alt right.

All ideas, shytty and not shytty need to be debated openly or else we’ll just keep repeating the same bullshyt until we’re all in FEMA camps.
 

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Autopilot workers at the Buffalo Gigafactory 2 facility went public with a campaign to form a union on Feb. 14. But by the next day, the workers found that their account had been shadowbanned—meaning it doesn’t appear in Twitter’s search function if you type out either the account’s handle or display name. Elon Musk serves as the CEO at both Tesla and Twitter, and he is named in the NLRB charge.

just tested it.. he really shadow banned them.

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Yea free speech always seems like code words to be racist/ an intolerant a$$hole
Yep the same ones who love free speech on online because they can say racist shyt also scream about states rights :sas2:
 

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It's pretty amazing how he spouted all these claims of idealistic free speech bullshyt, then immediately proceeded to ban, shadow ban, and threaten with bans literally anyone who said anything he didn't like.

It's almost as if all that "free speech" rhetoric really just meant, "I want people to be able to spout racist bullshyt and right-wing misinformation without penalty."



Also - remember in 2022 when he told people to vote Republican because the president was a Democrat, and he claimed to be neutral but thought a split government was better than too much power on one side? Well, now the House is Republican.....yet he's telling people to vote Republican for president too. It's almost as if (like we all knew at the time) he was outright lying about wanting a split government and just straight wants Republicans to win.
 

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THESE VULTURE CACS
ARE PUTTING "CLAP BACK" IN
THE TITLE OF WASHINGTON POST
ARTICLES NOW?



It's been in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary since 2019. :leon:

Black culture is mainstream. Anything used in mainstream pop spaces is going to spread. :manny:






Those are emojis, right? Japanese origin, right?
 

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Elon Musk’s X just sued a nonprofit advertising group out of existence​


By Ramishah Maruf and Clare Duffy, CNN

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Updated 7:40 AM EDT, Fri August 9, 2024

Elon Musk on June 19, 2024 in Cannes, France. The lawsuit from his X platform against the non-profit advertising initiative GARM has led to its dissolution.


Elon Musk on June 19, 2024 in Cannes, France. The lawsuit from his X platform against the non-profit advertising initiative GARM has led to its dissolution.

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A major ad industry group is shutting down, days after Elon Musk-owned X filed a lawsuit that claimed the group illegally conspired to boycott advertising on his platform.
“GARM is a small, not-for-profit initiative, and recent allegations that unfortunately misconstrue its purpose and activities have caused a distraction and significantly drained its resources and finances,” the group said in a statement Friday. “GARM therefore is making the difficult decision to discontinue its activities.”

The group, Global Alliance for Responsible Media, also known as GARM, is a voluntary ad-industry initiative run by the World Federation of Advertisers that aims to help brands avoid having their advertisements appear alongside illegal or harmful content. GARM confirmed it is still planning to defend itself in court.

The end of GARM marks a temporary victory for Musk and X CEO Linda Yaccarino, even though a judge hasn’t made a ruling yet.
“No small group should be able to monopolize what gets monetized. This is an important acknowledgement and a necessary step in the right direction. I am hopeful that it means ecosystem-wide reform is coming,” Yaccarino posted on X Thursday.

However, the lawsuit could drive away even more advertisers from X, Nandini Jammi and Claire Atkin, founders of watchdog group Check My Ads Institute wrote in an op-ed Thursday. “Everyone can see that advertising on X is a treacherous business relationship for advertisers,” they said.

The lawsuit claims GARM organized “to collectively withhold billions of dollars in advertising from Twitter” because the group was concerned that the platform had deviated from brand safety standards after Musk’s acquisition in late 2022.

GARM has over 100 members. Four of those members — CVS, Unilever, Mars and the Danish energy company Ørsted — were named defendants in the suit filed in federal court in Texas Tuesday.

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GARM was set up in 2019 after the Christchurch New Zealand Mosque shootings, where the murderer livestreamed the shooting on Facebook. Following that, brands’ faced issues where their ads were placed next to illegal or harmful content, the group said in a statement. GARM said its group reduced such ads from 6.1% in 2020 to 1.7% in 2023.

Brands raised similar concerns when Musk acquired X in 2022, tanking the platform’s core ad business. Many brands have pulled their spending over concerns that their ads might run alongside misinformation or hate speech, which Musk himself has occasionally promoted. The suit also continues Musk’s habit of feuding with the advertisers whose money he relies on; last year, he told brands who had left the platform to “go f**k yourself.”

Though at times X leaders hinted the company’s ad business was improving, Yaccarino in a video Monday said, “They conspired to boycott X, which threatens our ability to thrive in the future,” she said of the GARM members, adding that the loss in advertising dollars placed the company “at long-term risk.”

The end of GARM could raise concerns for other media watchdogs, though a judge has sided with a nonprofit in a similar suit.

X also sued the Center for Countering Digital Hate, alleging the nonprofit group violated its terms of service when it studied, and then wrote about, hate speech on the platform and blamed it for driving away advertisers. (A federal judge tossed the suit in March, blasting it as an attempt to punish CCDH for protected speech.)

X also sued the progressive watchdog group Media Matters over its analysis highlighting antisemitic and pro-Nazi content on X — a report that appeared to play a significant role in a massive and damaging brand revolt late last year. The case is set to go to trial next year.
 

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Billionaires should not exist. As soon as you hit $1B in wealth, everything over that should be taxed at 20% annually.

Keeps CEOs from controlling mega billionaire companies and the ultra-rich from dominating politics.
 

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Billionaires should not exist. As soon as you hit $1B in wealth, everything over that should be taxed at 20% annually.

Keeps CEOs from controlling mega billionaire companies and the ultra-rich from dominating politics.

they use to be taxed 70%
 
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