Elon Musk wants a free speech utopia. Technologists clap back.

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opposing ideas..:mjpls:

people are not getting banned for being anti-socialist, pro-police, anti-union, pro big business, pro-religion, etc..

what opposing ideas or discourse are people getting banned for that you think shouldn't?
its not the banning of people. This is obvious and I don't know how we pretend that it is. I personally want to see that algorithm as that's what is key. Social Conditioning/Engineering is my long time subject of interest. Everything else is fearmongering, hyperbole, and frailty.
 

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its not the banning of people. This is obvious and I don't know how we pretend that it is. I personally want to see that algorithm as that's what is key. Social Conditioning/Engineering is my long time subject of interest. Everything else is fearmongering, hyperbole, and frailty.


How the Twitter Algorithm Works in 2022 and How to Make it Work for You
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How the Twitter algorithm works in 2022
All social algorithms use machine learning to sort content based on different ranking signals.

The truth is, the fact that it’s machine learning means not even Twitter knows exactly what its algorithms will surface. That’s why Twitter is currently involved in analyzing the results of its algorithms as part of its “responsible machine learning initiative.”

This initiative has identified Twitter algorithm bias issues, including:

Twitter algorithm change is not taken lightly. Especially since the algorithm’s first appearance on the platform made #RIPTwitter a trending hashtag. But Twitter has formed a Machine Learning Ethics, Transparency, and Accountability (META) team to address inequities, which will likely lead to changes in the algorithm over time.

For instance, to address the image-cropping issue, Twitter changed the way it shows images. Now, Twitter presents single images without cropping and shows users a true preview of what images will look like when cropped.



As far as right-leaning political content, that’s a work in progress. Twitter says, “Further root cause analysis is required in order to determine what, if any, changes are required to reduce adverse impacts by our Home timeline algorithm.”

Future changes will likely give users more choice over how the system surfaces content through “algorithmic choice.” Twitter says this “will allow people to have more input and control in shaping what they want Twitter to be for them.”

For now, here are some of the ways Twitter ranking algorithms power your experience on the platform.

sure they could share the algorithm and devs can fork and modify it for other projects.:yeshrug:
 

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lol free speech utopia where people can only post positive things about God Elon and Tesla. This guy is the reason why we have to bust up big companies. If it was up to him we would be working in some Orwellian future where the technologists (ie. him, Zuckerberg) shape not only what we do with our lives but also our very thoughts, and we're censored from sharing what we think about anything. Scary type of guy to have the amount of power and money that he has and I hope the hammer gets brought down on him, Zuck and all these other crazies.
Only thing china is right about, putting their billionaires in there place :hubie:.
 
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Regarding one of your previous posts in relation to this comment, I think a lot of offenses just go without reporting. So material that is grounds for breaking TOS should be reported but typically isn't as the user drawing attention to it simply posts to complain about it and doesn't call for reporting of the posts. More people should engage in reporting content that violates the TOS. Regarding your sentiment in this post, the people that run the site will decide the terms of service, with sites like twitter and youtube, it's typically inline with what maintains ad revenue, so blocking content that might interfere with that is of the utmost importance and of course that also entails securing the most prominent portion of the user base. That's my response at face value but correct me if I'm wrong, are you instead suggesting twitter in this time period is more integrated into the lives of people and thus should be treated as a serious form of speech outside of just a private platform with rules dictated by the owners? Because that's another argument that I could address but I'm not sure if that is what you intended to get at or not.
That is exactly the argument I'm trying to propose here. If you could address that for me that would be great and enlightening. Thanks.
 

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That is exactly the argument I'm trying to propose here. If you could address that for me that would be great and enlightening. Thanks.
It's not something I have thought about in-depth because I don't think we are anywhere near that point, you can check the stats on this but I remember reading that a large majority of people in developed nations do not use Twitter and of the % that do, an even smaller % of the the user base actually posts on the site. But I recognize the ramifications that could be present in an environment where a platform such as Twitter becomes the main platform for getting speech out and in that event an individual being banned from the site would be almost equal to being silenced in public. In that hypothetical world, I would say it would be wise to question who sets the standards of morality, provides the limits on speech, and their justification for bans. You would need some sort of "objective" abritor over the situation. And in that situation, the government would have to step in, in an ideal world, you could trust those members to handle things properly. As of right now, I don't think government should be stepping in unless it is a matter of concern regarding the security of the nation, so propaganda being pushed through Facebook and Twitter, which did see subpoenas issued to the leaders of these platforms with the intention of making them aware of such a problem and getting their assurance that they would address it given the impact it could have, or the impact it did have on the country.

It's a sticky situation because it's a matter of how much governmental reach we want in our lives as that's the only way one could regulate a business such as Twitter, personally, I more for giving complete control to government, but that would be in a perfect/utopian world, where the government truly has the best interest of the people in mind and there is no possibility of it going wrong. Obviously in the real world we can't control for that so I think it's important to carefully assess where we let government in versus where we don't, and in America of all places, you only need 1 election cycle for it all to go to hell. I should also note that I'm not a free speech absolutist, so that greatly affects my thoughts on the matter.
 

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The OG JBO was completely unmoderated.. :wow:
shyt was like the wild west.. :wow:

We had to be stopped.. :mjcry:

The meat measuring dynasty had to end breh.

I miss that one long ass thread by British breh that was a rep chain :mjcry:
 

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You continue to reveal exactly who you are with this type of personal attack. If you don't think some people aren't smart enough to be exposed to certain information without becoming radicalized, that's your opinion. I'm just pointing out that it's bigoted.

People have proven and continue to prove they are not smart enough to handle certain information.

You are a non Jewish white guy right? I don’t really expect you to be sensitive to the threats posed by the radicalization of young white boys online.

If you’re black, then pull your head out of your ass with that absolutist free speech nonsense on privately owned platforms.
 

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People have proven and continue to prove they are not smart enough to handle certain information.

You are a non Jewish white guy right? I don’t really expect you to be sensitive to the threats posed by the radicalization of young white boys online.

If you’re black, then pull your head out of your ass with that absolutist free speech nonsense on privately owned platforms.

I'm not in here advocating for absolitist free speech but if these platforms in their current states don't allow for hate speech, and people like Elon are advocating to change that, how is it that white men have been and are continuing to be radicalized on these same privately owned platforms right now?
 

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All this talk of free speech from Elon is bullshyt. He's focused on leverage. Rich guys at that level, in general, are focused on leverage. If Elon buys twitter he gets:

1. Political leverage. He can use the threat of twitter going full nazi/far right white supremacists to try and get something, be it benefits or what not, from democrats. He can do the same for republicans but instead of threat of going far right is their fear of dems talking points dominating the platform, the same way they claim the such is occurring with the media - consider that each side is mostly concerned about this effects their ability to attract donors.

2. It is known that he has done work with the military. Now this will let him do bullshyt with the NSA and CIA. Nothing special but having this kind of platform is useful to those agencies. This gives him a level of leverage.

3. He's a white south African and even more so, a boer. They're the most annoying breed of white. I'm not even trying to be racist, it's just the truth. I'm sure some may be okay but overall, they're on some fukkshyt, think themselves better than everyone, including other whites which is why they tend to come into conflict when they interact with other whites at times, and have a weird hatred for blacks, especially "the bantu" (say the word "bantu" around a white south African and watch their face contort with irritation and even anger). Ever since apartheid ended, they've been on some fukk shyt. They were before but holy shyt, they're low key mad about losing their "place in the world" and so a lot of things many of them do is aimed at some weird revenge for shyt. He knows this shyt will radicalize white people and he's all for it. His past conduct shows this and in his mind, he probably thinks "that's what you get".

4. His ego. He's always been an egotistical bytchmade fukk. This is him just being obvious enough that it is hard to ignore. :yeshrug:

Like someone said, it's not about free speech. He don't give a damn about that.
 
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