Einstein's Letter on God Uncovered

[Type Username Here]

If my opinion was absolute truth it would be absolute truth, not just my opinion.

Now show me where I claimed my opinion was absolute truth or just give up this lame attempt. Manipulating words I never typed does not make you clever. And that is the absolute truth.

I'm not manipulating anything you said brother. I never said you claimed your opinion was absolute truth.

I merely asked you if your opinion was the absolute truth in your eyes.

You said it wasn't, which means that you made a statement that lacked any truth and you knowingly made this statement, even knowing it wasn't the absolute truth.

Thus, proving my point.

 

[Blackking]

Einstein wasn't an atheist either... He just thought the Bible was foolish.
He was nothing like the atheist we see on here-HL. He was open to other possibilities about human purpose, deities, creation, and human consciousness. He wasn't far from Buddah on some philosophical questions.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I'm not manipulating anything you said brother. I never said you claimed your opinion was absolute truth.

I merely asked you if your opinion was the absolute truth in your eyes.

You said it wasn't, which means that you made a statement that lacked any truth and you knowingly made this statement, even knowing it wasn't the absolute truth.

Thus, proving my point.

And you proved my point that you don't know the definition of the words fact, opinion, truth, lie, correct, incorrect, etc.

 

[Blackking]

Speaking an untruth is the definition of a lie.

Do you think any man who has ever lived has spoken or understood god?

idk what the debate even is....


but a lie is an intentionally told untrue statement. An untruth is simply something that is not true. It can be told without the person knowing that it's false. At times it's used euphemistically ( as a euphemism) . For example, one could say the universe was randomly formed with no purpose or intelligence behind it..... when we find out that this isn't true this doesn't make every atheist statement about the universe a lie.


And if God exist, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that at least one man has communicated with Him indirectly.

 

[Type Username Here]

Some people think God = The Christian Idea of God and that's it and I think that's most of the problem right there.

Any idea of god is a problem. Any religion or person who tells you they can describe, speak, or understand a "god" is lying to you, which is all of them.

You proved my point.

You gave me your personal idea of "god", but you said it wasn't the absolute truth. Thus, you have no idea about what "god" is.

Why do you capitalize the word "god"?

 

[Type Username Here]

idk what the debate even is....


but a lie is an intentionally told untrue statement. An untruth is simply something that is not true. It can be told without the person knowing that it's false. At times it's used euphemistically ( as a euphemism) . For example, one could say the universe was randomly formed with no purpose or intelligence behind it..... when we find out that this isn't true this doesn't make every atheist statement about the universe a lie.


And if God exist, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that at least one man has communicated with Him indirectly.

Why do you capitalize the word "god"? Why do you refer to "god" as a Him?

 

[NoMayo15]

Einstein wasn't an atheist either... He just thought the Bible was foolish.
He was nothing like the atheist we see on here-HL. He was open to other possibilities about human purpose, deities, creation, and human consciousness. He wasn't far from Buddah on some philosophical questions.

I don't know why you assume atheists are closed to any philosophical positions ... or even the existence of a god. It's just they tend to be skeptics, and not accept ideas on faith -- They need better reasons to believe something that your average person may take on face value.

Considering the number of non-theistic scientists today, it's quite likely that Einstein would also reject the idea of a creator god if he were still around.

 

[Blackking]

I never understood the argument of "well such and such believed in GOd so BOOYA!"

That is a bad argument to use.

In the defense of that arguments purpose and place in the debate......
That argument nearly always follows the fallacious argument of the opposing side - that fallacious argument being a combination of , Argument from repetition (ur dumb, you all are naive, "my point isn't proven by has some evidence"), inconsistent comparisons ( Using philological points to prove science, using science to dis prove philosophical ideas) , Ad hominem (a HL favorite, lol, and yall know it!), And Appeal to authority ( Scientific community- institutionalized. )

That combination forces the other side to use what you just posted^ in combination with Retrospective determinism .

 

[the cac mamba]

Einstein wasn't an atheist either... He just thought the Bible was foolish.
He was nothing like the atheist we see on here-HL. He was open to other possibilities about human purpose, deities, creation, and human consciousness. He wasn't far from Buddah on some philosophical questions.

i dont know how people can say atheists are extreme for rejecting the belief in god, when following a religion such as christianity means that you reject every one elses god

"put no other gods before me". if you are a christian you are discounting every single 'god' the human race has ever produced. and yet atheists reject one more god than a christian does, right? i feel like its not as big of a difference as its perceived to be

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

You proved my point.

You gave me your personal idea of "god", but you said it wasn't the absolute truth. Thus, you have no idea about what "god" is.

Why do you capitalize the word "god"?

So I have to be an expert in something to have an idea? How do you think the internet came about and made this entire conversation possible? An idea.

So add that to the list of words you clearly don't know the definition of.

You keep swinging and you keep missing. I would applaud you for returning to the plate despite failure after failure but I have to admit it's getting rather tired now.

You tried to be clever but you only proved you're an idiot. You can pay for a dictionary but you can't buy a clue. :hov:

 

[Blackking]

I don't know why you assume atheists are closed to any philosophical positions ... or even the existence of a god. It's just they tend to be skeptics, and not accept ideas on faith -- They need better reasons to believe something that your average person may take on face value.

Considering the number of non-theistic scientists today, it's quite likely that Einstein would also reject the idea of a creator god.

Well I'm speaking to a HL audience, i guess.... is the reason for the first assumption. Its what I read and determine as the majority VP.

Would? What do you mean by would.. do you mean if he were alive today? I don't think we can determine that. We only know his opinions before he died.

What do you make of the theistic scientist today? IT's considered illogical and unreasonable to even believe in any form of god. So what do you make of the logical people who see the possibility in that?

 

[Type Username Here]

So I have to be an expert in something to have an idea? How do you think the internet came about and made this entire conversation possible? An idea.

So add that to the list of words you clearly don't know the definition of.

You keep swinging and you keep missing. I would applaud you for returning to the plate despite failure after failure but I have to admit it's getting rather tired now.

You tried to be clever but you only proved you're an idiot. You can pay for a dictionary but you can't buy a clue. :hov:

You don't have to be an expert at anything.

But thanks for proving my point.

You have no concrete idea of what "god" is, or whether "god" exists, but you singled out the Christian god as being a problem and you refer to it as God, which implies a concept of sorts (sign of respect?). That's a contradiction right there.


Why did you single out the Christian god?

 

[Blackking]

Why do you capitalize the word "god"? Why do you refer to "god" as a Him?

Because I'm crazy and sexist.


The reason I do is because I always thought you capitalize the first letter when you're speaking about a specific person's name... so if we are calling God- God or Allah, we would capitalize. If I was Hindu I would put gods.

Him was used for most of history. It doesn't even mean that God's a man. It was always used up until recently. When my mother was reading something about how to take care of her babies...they would use 'him' to speak about a baby. Now the majority of things I read to learn about my children .. say 'her' or 'she' . Society is attempting to correct something that was considered sexist - that wasn't really sexist.
Part 2 - I also say him because I live in America and this is a mostly Christian nation.. I'm not a Christian, but we see movies, TV, books, it's in our language and culture as Americans to say him when speaking of God.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

You don't have to be an expert at anything.

But thanks for proving my point.

You have no concrete idea of what "god" is, or whether "god" exists, but you singled out the Christian god as being a problem and you refer to it as God, which implies a concept of sorts (sign of respect?). That's a contradiction right there.


Why did you single out the Christian god?

I'm not saying the Christian concept of God is wrong or right. I just get annoyed that when people think of God they immediately think of the church. And most atheist arguments tend to be against Christianity, at least in HL. God is often used as a synonym for the Christian God.

I expect you to deny this and try to twist the words some more but you're also the same guy who thinks every untrue statement is a lie so your opinion loses weight in my eyes by the character.

 

[Type Username Here]

Because I'm crazy and sexist.


The reason I do is because I always thought you capitalize the first letter when you're speaking about a specific person's name... so if we are calling God- God or Allah, we would capitalize. If I was Hindu I would put gods.

Him was used for most of history. It doesn't even mean that God's a man. It was always used up until recently. When my mother was reading something about how to take care of her babies...they would use 'him' to speak about a baby. Now the majority of things I read to learn about my children .. say 'her' or 'she' . Society is attempting to correct something that was considered sexist - that wasn't really sexist.
Part 2 - I also say him because I live in America and this is a mostly Christian nation.. I'm not a Christian, but we see movies, TV, books, it's in our language and culture as Americans to say him when speaking of God.

Yes, but is "god" a person? Is "god" its name? Aren't you assigning human concepts to something that we cannot begin to describe?