Einstein's Letter on God Uncovered

[NoMayo15]

Yep. Expected "" from the atheist/agnostic crowd, the god botherers nitpicking his life (eat your vegetables or Dirty jerz will criticize you after you die ) and kingsmen talking about ether substances.

FIVE STAR THREAD

And holy shyt at your sig. Dude really thinks Scientology is based on science???


I can't tell if he's really THIS DUMB, or the greatest troll on Earth.

 

[Fillerguy]

Most People.....Generalizing yourself? There are those who believe in God without the Church stuff....Alot of people...so don't get it twisted. I take the approach of learning Maat/ I-Ching or how our Indigenous brothers speak to the spirits.

I stick to generalizations that are provable. You'd seldom find someone who doesn't associate a deity with some form of organized religion. We're only exposed to but a few of the world's religion; believer or not, there's no reason to look past the top 4-5 belief systems of the world unless you want to spend the rest of your free time looking the "right" belief system.

They became bitter in what they didn't receive through religion...blamed God and became atheist. Educate them....don't clown them. What made you become one?

I believe if you beliefs can't stand up against basic scrutiny then you aren't taking your beliefs seriously. If you blame a deity for pain in your life, you aren't some who "one who believes that there is no deity", you're just a hater fukk em


As for me, I wouldn't say I'm an atheist but its just as arrogant to me as theism is. A Theist claims to know/believe a deity exits with no proof/in spite of no evidence whereas an Atheist claims to know/believe a deity exists because there there is little to know evidence. I'm more inclined to agree with the Atheist because that line of reasoning is how we operate our day to day lives.

Then there's the question which gods or religions should I follow:

- Should I take the "all rivers to the same ocean" route and choose one.... which IMO undermines every religion
- Should I listen to my mans Augustine and spend a good part of my youth shytting on the most popular religion in my region only to convert because I start to look at its dogma as allegory

Staying my course as a heathen seems more :rational: until Jesus/ Odin Alfodr comes back. I figure living a mostly righteous life and a couple of Hail Marys/dying a glorious death in battle will save my soul.

 

[keon]

good stuff and this coming from the man who helped split the atom.

...which in turn lead to the invention of the atomic bomb

only a godless person can be responsible for such things

 

[Bud Bundy]

...which in turn lead to the invention of the atomic bomb

only a godless person can be responsible for such things

nuclear energy could take us to a new age if used properly.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Some people think God = The Christian Idea of God and that's it and I think that's most of the problem right there.

 

[Type Username Here]

Some people think God = The Christian Idea of God and that's it and I think that's most of the problem right there.

Any idea of god is a problem. Any religion or person who tells you they can describe, speak, or understand a "god" is lying to you, which is all of them.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Any idea of god is a problem. Any religion or person who tells you they can describe, speak, or understand a "god" is lying to you, which is all of them.

I can't agree that "Any IDEA of God is problem".

I would also have to challenge your definition of the word "lie". Speaking an untruth doesn't necessarily mean a person is lying.

 

[thekingsmen]

I stick to generalizations that are provable. You'd seldom find someone who doesn't associate a deity with some form of organized religion. We're only exposed to but a few of the world's religion; believer or not, there's no reason to look past the top 4-5 belief systems of the world unless you want to spend the rest of your free time looking the "right" belief system.

Generalizations are just that....alot of times stereotypes placing people into categories. Just because you cant take the time to learn the systems I just placed doesn't mean they have no reason behind them. Problem for many is looking for a right system instead of finding balance in their own system.



I believe if you beliefs can't stand up against basic scrutiny then you aren't taking your beliefs seriously. If you blame a deity for pain in your life, you aren't some who "one who believes that there is no deity", you're just a hater fukk em

That's not how others look at it who feel that way.




As for me, I wouldn't say I'm an atheist but its just as arrogant to me as theism is. A Theist claims to know/believe a deity exits with no proof/in spite of no evidence whereas an Atheist claims to know/believe a deity exists because there there is little to know evidence. I'm more inclined to agree with the Atheist because that line of reasoning is how we operate our day to day lives.


Which goes back to my first point. How do you know Atheism is the only reason? You have chosen to shut off true enlightenment from finding your path because it blends well with the local trend.



Then there's the question which gods or religions should I follow:

- Should I take the "all rivers to the same ocean" route and choose one.... which IMO undermines every religion

Questioning is good but understanding is also good. Balance.


- Should I listen to my mans Augustine and spend a good part of my youth shytting on the most popular religion in my region only to convert because I start to look at its dogma as allegory

Free Will is your choice.


Staying my course as a heathen seems more :rational: until Jesus/ Odin Alfodr comes back. I figure living a mostly righteous life and a couple of Hail Marys/dying a glorious death in battle will save my soul.


Umm that makes no sense. You are willing to do wrong just to do wrong in order to wait for consequences from a deity? Karma always comes in different situations be careful what you wish for.

 

[Type Username Here]

I can't agree that "Any IDEA of God is problem".

I would also have to challenge your definition of the word "lie". Speaking an untruth doesn't necessarily mean a person is lying.

Speaking an untruth is the definition of a lie.

Also, yes, any idea of god is in itself admitting that we can understand such a being.

Do you think any man who has ever lived has spoken or understood god?

 

[thekingsmen]

Yep. Expected "" from the atheist/agnostic crowd, the god botherers nitpicking his life (eat your vegetables or Dirty jerz will criticize you after you die ) and kingsmen talking about ether substances.

FIVE STAR THREAD

Got to love Kool G for being too weak to debate but only to coward out into a name calling event with his man-crush co-signer NoMayo.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Speaking an untruth is the definition of a lie.

Also, yes, any idea of god is in itself admitting that we can understand such a being.

Do you think any man who has ever lived has spoken or understood god?

So if a teacher asks a student a question and the student answers incorrectly, he's LYING? 2+2=5 may simply be a "wrong answer", not necessarily a lie. So again, I challenge your definition. Lying is with intent to deceive.

Are you saying simply believing in something greater than yourself is a problem? That's a pretty pompous attitude.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Got to love Kool G for being too weak to debate but only to coward out into a name calling event with his man-crush co-signer NoMayo.

The only time I bothered to debate you, you lost. I told you I'm not spending any more time indulging you after the AIDS incident, and I will not.

 

[Type Username Here]

So if a teacher asks a student a question and the student answers incorrectly, he's LYING? 2+2=5 may simply be a "wrong answer", not necessarily a lie. So again, I challenge your definition. Lying is with intent to deceive.

Are you saying simply believing in something greater than yourself is a problem? That's a pretty pompous attitude.

I'm a deist, so I'm not implying that at all.

A lie doesn't need to have the intent to deceive but in this case, when someone claims to know or understand god, they are definitely deceiving.

Like, one someone says that god commands pillars to hold up clouds, that is a lie.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

I'm a deist, so I'm not implying that at all.

A lie doesn't need to have the intent to deceive but in this case, when someone claims to know or understand god, they are definitely deceiving.

Like, one someone says that god commands pillars to hold up clouds, that is a lie.

You're a deist? Wouldn't that infer some idea of god?

I think people just like to argue in HL.

But in the words of the great George Costanza... "It's not a lie if you believe it." All jokes aside, there is truth to that.

If you believe God is a tree, that doesn't mean you're lying if you say it. On the contrary, if you believe God is a tree and then say it's not, THAT would be the lie.

 

[Type Username Here]

You're a deist? Wouldn't that infer some idea of god?

I think people just like to argue in HL.

No, not really. I'm a deist for mathematical reasons, mainly probability. I find it more probable than not that some sort of entity or entity might exist. I have NO idea what he/she/it/they/us/? is.

All I know is that science is the best way of understand the universe and the only way to understand that/those entity (or lack thereof). I also admit that agnostic atheists hold the strongest logical argument and that a deity may not exist. My mind is not capable of understanding such a thing. No one's mind is.

But in the words of the great George Costanza... "It's not a lie if you believe it." All jokes aside, there is truth to that.

If you believe God is a tree, that doesn't mean you're lying if you say it. On the contrary, if you believe God is a tree and then say it's not, THAT would be the lie.

If you believe that pillars hold up clouds or that the angel gabriel was sent by god to speak to a man, you're lying. I don't care if you believe it or not.