Educate a late stage Millennial on why the "Shiny Suit Era" was the beginning of the end for rap

[Art Barr]

Pretty much this.

The "no sell out and deliberately crossover" commandment died and opened the floodgates.

This.

The shiny suit era killed the protection mechanism of the last business derived from the pillars. Which kept hiphop from becoming the fad in 1983. Subverting hiphop from becoming a fad by thirty years. till 2013 when hiphop was offically segregated.
completely away from the rap industry deeived from the pillars of hiphop.



Art Barr


*the only real emcee and protege to a legend.
protecting the grail and not leaving his post.


In 1991 chuck d at the museum of art in Chicago. Gave prophecy that this would happen.
Where it has been cemented and has been here for a decade plus now. Beginning completely with the shiny suit era.



Art Barr


*shyt even chuck d sold out and would not committed fully to being an emcee and got a gw. Which also happened. So when people say did this happen and did rhe shiny suit wra do this or that. Yes it happened.

Any nikka saying it did not. Was not skilled enough previously and do not want you to know they are flodge'n. Yet I know they are and I will expose any and all toys. I don't care who you are cause yousa a no skilled nuffin to the protege to a legend.



Art Barr

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Stop.
With this toy talk.

Hiphop has mores and norms.
Of which if you publically appear to represent any pillar of hiphop.
you are supposed to know.

Stop the free thought bullshyt.

It was never allowed.


Art Barr

Hip hop has always been a reflection of where we are as a people tho right? So just saying the shiny suit era was the beginning of the end is bullshyt. Especially when it wasn’t even a real era and only was reflective of Bad Boy. Nobody else was copying that shyt

 

[skyrunner1]

What are the dates on this era? Was there a bling bling era and did they run concurrently or did that come after?

 

[the elastic]

What are the dates on this era? Was there a bling bling era and did they run concurrently or did that come after?

Looks like they're sayin 96-98

 

[Art Barr]

Hip hop has always been a reflection of where we are as a people tho right? So just saying the shiny suit era was the beginning of the end is bullshyt. Especially when it wasn’t even a real era and only was reflective of Bad Boy. Nobody else was copying that shyt

Stop.

Hiphop has mores and norms.

Stop with the mtv Viacom free thought bullshyt.

Which exists to give this shyt a pass so they could revenue grab.

You outta order breh.
Y'all not no bboys on here tho.

So it is understood.
How this happened where rego people know all of a sudden give a fukk about a culture they do not give one honest fukk about like that frfr.
I get it.

Y'all rap fans.

I understand that.
plus how in that.
fans have been made to think a certain way

about hiphop as rap fans.


Art Barr

 

[Amo Husserl]

It brought in a mainstream switch that set the stage for the 00s, a rapper with mass appeal, softer look and whatever Ja Rule was rhymin' over:


It wasn't the shiny suit era, but what happened afterward. It set a commercial standard that elevated hip-hop but killed diversity on the labels.

Spoiler: Something to think about...

Ja Rule and 50 Cent was a battle between the 2Pac clones.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Funny because No Limit had barely nationally known artists getting plaques on albums that really didn't contain a lot of radio-friendly singles in the "shiny suit era"

 

[skyrunner1]

Looks like they're sayin 96-98

So the bling bling era started after? Late '98 juvenile kicked in the door soo hard even Jay z had to hop on the remix.. Maybe its my perception but always thought people from up north blamed the south taking over as the issue..

 

[Art Barr]

What are the dates on this era? Was there a bling bling era and did they run concurrently or did that come after?

Bling Bling ran concurrent to jay's jiggy shiny suit era.
Yet jay's collab to link with the bling bling era is one of the worst remixes in the history of music. That jay had to try to gain a draw from that era. Afterward with ugk with volume iii. Yet originally jay failed to link his brand of the last drawing shiny suit era to the beginning of the bling era with low output on wax.
Yet the bling bling movement was only able to draw.
simply because the shiny suit era. dumbed down and eradicated any protection mechanism from hiphop. to the business of its pillars in rap.


Art Barr

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Stop.

Hiphop has mores and norms.

Stop with the mtv Viacom free thought bullshyt.

Which exists to give this shyt a pass so they could revenue grab.

You outta order breh.
Y'all not no bboys on here tho.

So it is understood.
How this happened where rego people know all of a sudden give a fukk about a culture they do not give one honest fukk about like that frfr.
I get it.

Y'all rap fans.

I understand that.
plus how in that.
fans have been made to think a certain way

about hiphop as rap fans.


Art Barr

I’m not disagreeing with anything you saying. My point is there is more than one reason for us being where we at right now

 

[Art Barr]

Funny because No Limit had barely nationally known artists getting plaques on albums that really didn't contain a lot of radio-friendly singles in the "shiny suit era"

No limit got to benefit from the protection mechanism being eradicated by badboy. As before that. No biting was allowed. Yet once there was no protection mechanism. The artist with the biggest bankroll and admin from biting Tupac. Is now the largest profitable drawing label in rap.

Which also occurred from fraud and brought on the sales spike era from the masterdisc [spelling] soundscan fraud and conspiracy.



Art Barr

 

[ShaDynasty]

Shiny suit era which went into the Aftermath era is responsible for making Hip Hop this big commercial scene.

The pie of Hip Hop was much smaller before that. Artists that dropped after that era and complained might not have had viable careers before those big artists at the turn of the century blew up the total number of Hip Hop listeners.

I don't know if they're totally responsible, but they played a part.

 

[Art Barr]

I’m not disagreeing with anything you saying. My point is there is more than one reason for us being where we at right now

Before that.

Hiphop culture was not firmly segregated completely away from the business of rap.

To the point the shiny suit culture thieves label the era amongst themselves. The gold rush of rap era.
When in hiphop. Rap has never been termed to have a gold rush period. Yet to the Victor's go the spoils. That the gold rush of hiphop is pr'd by them and documented by them for the period as well.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Shiny suit era which went into the Aftermath era is responsible for making Hip Hop this big commercial scene.

The pie of Hip Hop was much smaller before that. Artists that dropped after that era and complained might not have had viable careers before those big artists at the turn of the century blew up the total number of Hip Hop listeners.

I don't know if they're totally responsible, but they played a part.

Eminem was against the shiny suit era.
So the shiny suit era did not flow into the aftermath era. They are juxtaposed.

The aftermath era was culturally bolstered from sellout cliche gamgsta rap no drawing doom to the point. It has become the premier art house of rap and black music.
moving forward the actual rubrick sonically in all possible aspect or expression. For anything dealing with audio.



Shiny suit jiggy era never stopped being or drawing. As most pop rap is all derived from the low brow no technical skill accumen level of jiggy or shiny suit era rap moving forward.



Art Barr

 

[boskey]

I don't know how you can look at the 10 years before that era and the 20 years after and say that it wasn't the beginning of the end. It's like night and day