Rakim Allah
Superstar
I was suprised when I got to college at Howard how many east coast cats hadn't heard their debut.
EDIT: SOURCE MAGAZINE BIAS PROVEN TO BE MYTH - Source Top 100 Albums list
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3 ll cool j albums but just 1 PAC album?? The blatant east coast bias in the writing staff was justpretty much explains y the xxl take over was so easy.. Much better well rounded mag.. All ways covered wat was hott no matter the artist location.. fukk this list link the xxl top 100 for real debate
Show us the Rap Pages list so we can compare bias then..
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Have you heard Juvenile Hell?? It's just as good as Murda Muzik although they didn't have that mobb sound yet. The production was still gritty.
JuvenileHell
Veteran
But yeah, that album was pretty mediocre. I could understand why people overlook it, considering how much they improved 2 years later
Hold down the fort was my shyt though.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
alright so, i took a look at this.
i don't even consciously remember this list.
as it may have occurred during my heavy source boycott years.
which extended for a long time in that era, to damn near now.
give or take a few cycles of issues.
at like a homies crib, when i took that number two.
when, that was the choices of material in their bathroom to read.
also, to reply to this comment about mobb.
i think hell on earth did not have the same elements in clarity mixing wise as the, infamous.
nor, do i think q-tip was a fixture in the mentoring/recording process as the enfamous.
if you listen to hell on earth, the absence of tip's skillset in key variables of mobb deep were not as distinct.
whereas, i think the combo of:
q-tip
havoc : ramping up
prodigy : ramping up
while also being a beautiful marriage of different cultural ideals.
plus, tip's ability to navigate mobb to create a release that just flirted the line.
in violating but being a bridging gap to overcome the cowboy edict.
is also, hugely missing on hell on earth.
which is what made it more dark than the enfamous's gateway accessbility.
which was a good thing, but a bit of a deviation from the enfamous.
similar to the dynamic of prince paul and dela's three feat,...
incomparison to dela is dead.
where, paul was absent as a creator and more a consultant.
as dela showed their independence and the death of the daisy age.
the enfamous is like a street version and extension of taking native tongue violent content based rap like the beatnuts.
then, applyng a much looser, but similar culturally mindful connection and responsibility.
that was present on, MM.
so, i think enfamous was a best of both worlds release.
that exhibited the lead native tongue member for the time.
q-tips expertise, and ability to segueway real hardcore content and direction.
with little known and unseen lightness in mixing clarity that q-tip was a master of.
which also, created a pop gateway.
in this instance, it created a pop gateway and accessibility that the enfamous had.
that, their other material afterwards did not really or typically showcase, on later releases.
while, hell on earth..
is closer to havoc's beginning apprentice/fly on the wall background.
that originated, from the recording of the first black moon.
as, hell on earth is closer to the mixing clarity sonically to black moon's debut.
so, you get to see a distinct skillset and contrast.
that was exhibited from the kindred.
these artist all shared, for that time/era.
also, as i look at this list.
it feels more like a list made to just hit all the standard x's an o's.
yet, the decisions and choices are just standard fare.
this list pretty much is a list alphabetically of great performers.
then, subsequently a few albums from those respective artist.
then possibly tailored down so every artist alphabetically was represented, aesthetically.
yet, i don't see much critical thought put into the overall selections.
it is a good guide/rubrick for a gateway listener, though.
who at the time was a leo burnett popular marketed rap fan.
looking to find key staple releases to ramp up in listening to rap.
art barr
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Rapmastermind
Superstar
Juvi Hell was a bad album but they were young I forgive them. I just think it's funny most people consider "Infamous" Mobb's debut, lol:
Rapmastermind
Superstar
"Infamous" was just the better album and had more memorable songs than "Hell on Earth". But HOE was still a dope album. As for the list, I agree it was kinda X's and O's as in they got the albums they HAD to get that were considered Classics at that point. I think a Top 100 done around 1995 would of been an even more solid list. By early 98 the old guard had begun to get phased out. I boycotted the Source myself by 99 cause I could not believe Benzino gave that "Made Men" album 4.5 MICS. It's funny I actually liked the album but it's 3.5 MICS at best that let me know the magazine no longer had an identity.
To show you how HARD the Source was, look at this "Infamous" Review. Even the littlest flaw will cost you .5 MICS.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
along with Hold Down The Fort you had
But yeah, that album was pretty mediocre. I could understand why people overlook it, considering how much they improved 2 years later
Hold down the fort was my shyt though.
Premo!!
I can understand for those who heard their debut after the other albums that followed not feeling it as much but in 92/93 they were putting out the hardest sh1t when it came to so called kiddie rap along with Da Youngstas 2nd album.
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Big Mel
@bigboss
No E.1999 Eternal?
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
Doggystyle > any tupac album ever
Drop the gems the list didn't have 
I didn't disagree with a single album in the list...
only ones I never heard was Just-Ice's Kool n Deadly and the Chill Rob G joint... so maybe those would've been the ones I disagreed with. But all the other ones noted were worthy. Oh, and the Digable Planets album... nah. So a possible 97 out of 100, I had no issue with.
I knew the 2Pac squad would come out... truth be told, I feel All Eyez is a classic, but it wasn't exactly a critic's favorite when it dropped. It, much like It Was Written, was something the fans loved but the writer guys weren't crazy about. If they did a new top 100 today, it's probably guaranteed in there. But at the time, the same way people now are still immersed in our "golden era", the Source staff was immersed in THEIR "golden era", which explains why the lists are very 80s/early-90s heavy and not too generous to recently released albums. Like I've said before, people weren't in the mid-late 90s already having mid-late 90s nostalgia, they were reminiscing on the late-80s/early-90s. That's why a lot of your personal favorites from '94/'95/'96 didn't make it here.
only ones I never heard was Just-Ice's Kool n Deadly and the Chill Rob G joint... so maybe those would've been the ones I disagreed with. But all the other ones noted were worthy. Oh, and the Digable Planets album... nah. So a possible 97 out of 100, I had no issue with.
I knew the 2Pac squad would come out... truth be told, I feel All Eyez is a classic, but it wasn't exactly a critic's favorite when it dropped. It, much like It Was Written, was something the fans loved but the writer guys weren't crazy about. If they did a new top 100 today, it's probably guaranteed in there. But at the time, the same way people now are still immersed in our "golden era", the Source staff was immersed in THEIR "golden era", which explains why the lists are very 80s/early-90s heavy and not too generous to recently released albums. Like I've said before, people weren't in the mid-late 90s already having mid-late 90s nostalgia, they were reminiscing on the late-80s/early-90s. That's why a lot of your personal favorites from '94/'95/'96 didn't make it here.
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spencerforhire
All Star
Here you go...........
