Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox

[Wild self]

Unparalleled?

They have both been pretty equal in arrogance

And what has Nintendo innovated? Making games less hardcore and granny friendly?

They made a motion controller and commenced to releasing trash after trash for it. Both Sony and Microsoft has been more creative than them

hate on the Wii as you like, but it saved the gaming industry from redundancy. So much, to the point where the 720 is using motion controls and even the PS4 is gonna try and make an attempt to do that. Hate Nintendo as you like, but it saved the gaming industry more than once.

 

[5n0man]

70 million and you happy about that? Especially from the PS brand? PS2 sold 150 million at the same time frame (6.5 years) with more games. Sony failed to keep up with the times and believed that people had "to work more hours" to support it. They underperformed and they still think that they can dupe people into their shyt. Which they are doing right.

Break it down to you like this: If a First party game like M$ drop a AAA first party game, it will sell like mad. If a Sony first party AAA game dropped in the PS3, it will sell moderately. If Nintendo drops a first party AAA game, it will sell like mad.

3rd party companies drop on the 360 all the time and make profit if its good and marketed right. Hell, its the prime reason why 3rd party companies can rely on M$ to sell their software this gen. Metal Gear Solid 4 is one of the few AAA third party games dropped this gen exclusively on the PS3 (sold 4 million), but it has trouble out selling the likes of Sonic Colors, a 3rd party game exclusively on Wii (4.5 million). While the reputation of the Sonic franchise at that time period (2010) was rocky to say the least.

I'm disappointed in Sony on how they dropped the ball since the ps2 days.

4 mil is right around the mark of a metal gear game, and 4 mil is a lot.

Ps2 sold 140 mil when it's comp only did 20 mil each

Zelda games are AAA the last sucked and was the worst selling of the bunch.
I'm happy sonic did good. Also the wii selection is piss poor so why act surprised that a decent game sold for it.

You keep ignoring that 600 was a steal for a blu ray player at the time, they took a 200$ loss on every system sold,

First party Sony games sell really good, not halo good but then again neither does Mario and Mario's a lot bigger than halo is.

Not everybody can do halo cod numbers breh, you sound lame with all these sales talk.

3-4 mil is great numbers 1-2 mil is decent, your brain washed with some 50 cent mentality, telling yourself that if it didn't sell like they did its a failure


You claim your not a fan boy but it sure does sound like your dikk riding a corporation.

Gears sells close to the samething as uncharted so your point about first party games on Xbox is groundless.

 

[Cat piss martini]

all of this was said about the ps3 and
what happened.....L after L.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Never on the games, always on other forms of entertainment. Which cost them 70 million + users of the PS2 that never bought a PS3. When it comes down to it, its all about the GAMES. Sony got carried away with that and still believes that people buy a GAMING system to play other forms of entertainment. I prefer my laptop and i-Pad to do that, thank you.

That wasn't it. The high cost is what hurt them and, just reading that thesis that I posted, the high cost mainly came from the Cell processor, and they also had some internal problems which basically eliminated the future uses of the processor before it was even released.

Sony was looking at ways to make the PS2 more than a gaming console, and they made no secret about it with the PS3. Mircosoft also did the same with the 360 and will continue with the 720.



EDIT
in case you missed the thesis

Just looking at Sony as a whole you can tell they are always trying to innovate. I remember seeing Sony were working on motion controls before the Wii announcement.

Someone even wrote a thesis on Sony's innovations http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/59120

 

[5n0man]

hate on the Wii as you like, but it saved the gaming industry from redundancy. So much, to the point where the 720 is using motion controls and even the PS4 is gonna try and make an attempt to do that. Hate Nintendo as you like, but it saved the gaming industry more than once.

Saved the gaming industry?

Both move and kinect sucked, just like the wii

The wii was the definition of redundancy

 

[Fury616]

Never on the games, always on other forms of entertainment. Which cost them 70 million + users of the PS2 that never bought a PS3. When it comes down to it, its all about the GAMES. Sony got carried away with that and still believes that people buy a GAMING system to play other forms of entertainment. I prefer my laptop and i-Pad to do that, thank you.

Yet and still M$ copied by including a DVD player in the Xbox but made sure you had to buy an extra accessory just to use it

 

[Mowgli]

games were like $200

3DO was expensive at the time. I think it dropped with a $600 price tag.

I have every neo geo game inventd on my psp. Hardware was a joke.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Yet and still M$ copied by including a DVD player in the Xbox but made sure you had to buy an extra accessory just to use it

They even had the HD-DVD add-on to combat the blu-ray player in the PS3

 

[5n0man]

Yet and still M$ copied by including a DVD player in the Xbox but made sure you had to buy an extra accessory just to use it

They even had the HD-DVD add-on to combat the blu-ray player in the PS3

But that's not as arrogant as Sony selling a system that cost them 800$ for 600$

 

[Wild self]

4 mil is right around the mark of a metal gear game, and 4 mil is a lot.

Ps2 sold 140 mil when it's comp only did 20 mil each

Zelda games are AAA the last sucked and was the worst selling of the bunch.
I'm happy sonic did good. Also the wii selection is piss poor so why act surprised that a decent game sold for it.

You keep ignoring that 600 was a steal for a blu ray player at the time, they took a 200$ loss on every system sold,

First party Sony games sell really good, not halo good but then again neither does Mario and Mario's a lot bigger than halo is.

Not everybody can do halo cod numbers breh, you sound lame with all these sales talk.

3-4 mil is great numbers 1-2 mil is decent, your brain washed with some 50 cent mentality, telling yourself that if it didn't sell like they did its a failure


You claim your not a fan boy but it sure does sound like your dikk riding a corporation.

Gears sells close to the samething as uncharted so your point about first party games on Xbox is groundless.

Glad that someone likes Sonic in here.

Gamers can uses sales on their arguments, cause the gaming industry is filled with people that read up on their shyt and marketed towards men that do research on the QUALITY of the games. Unlike the music industry that is marketed towards ill-informed demographics. Just stating the underperformance of Sony and how M$ seized an opportunity to dictate a generation of gaming.

 

[Kaydigi]

First console I will ever buy at launch.

 

[5n0man]

Glad that someone likes Sonic in here.

Gamers can uses sales on their arguments, cause the gaming industry is filled with people that read up on their shyt and marketed towards men that do research on the QUALITY of the games. Unlike the music industry that is marketed towards ill-informed demographics. Just stating the underperformance of Sony and how M$ seized an opportunity to dictate a generation of gaming.

Quality like call of duty?

Sales as an argument goes out the window when sales were extremely successful for both sides.

I'll ask you like I asked court dog.

Post some numbers, if the difference isn't comparable to ps2 vs. GameCube or ATLEAST 20 million diffenrence then you shouldn't give a fukk

Unless the difference in sells happen to be significant then the argument is void

And Microsoft did not dictate shyt, they are neck and neck with the Xbox having a year head start

 

[Loose]

MS run this software shyt, i expect sony to halfass copy like the sad ass attempt with trophies


next they gon try to copy smartglass 2

 

[5n0man]

MS run this software shyt, i expect sony to halfass copy like the sad ass attempt with trophies


next they gon try to copy smartglass 2

Microsoft copied Sony making a game console in the first place

 

[Tom]

Any word on how powerful the graphics cards will be on these systems?


I don't want to splurge on a GTX 680 PC card if consoles will be running on better hardware