Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox

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The company that made Twisted Metal was not a first party Sony Studio...:lookherebruh:

Atlus isn't either (company responsible for demon's souls)

Sony funded them :comeon: they were contracted, this is like microsoft not supporting epic , twisted pixel etc. sony doesnt give a fukk about no one.
 

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Sony funded them :comeon: they were contracted, this is like microsoft not supporting epic , twisted pixel etc. sony doesnt give a fukk about no one.

That's not even close.....Epic was here BEFORE MS with their Games and Unreal Engine. Eat, Sleep, Play was a new studio who was contracted to do Twisted Metal. They aren't owned by Sony and can do what they want. As Snoman said, Dark Souls was pretty much demon's souls 2.

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They will continue with the PS4. Even the rumor of that $899 is just :comeon: . I never heard of no rumor of a gaming system costing that much.


You probably a young dude so you don't know but this thing shyts on what Sony did in 2006 wit the PS3.
Neo-Geo, 1990................$700.
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Once again, isn't ps3 more powerful than 360??? Nothing else needs to be said because if I'm not mistaking, Sony finished last this generation

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That's the problem.

Unless PS4 is equally priced with XBox, Sony will lose AGAIN.

As an exampe, if Xbox drops at $400, and PS is $500......more people are gonna buy Xbox. Especially since they're coming off such a high success rate with the 360.

The developers are gonna once again side with Microsoft and once again Sony will be 2nd fiddle.

It sucks as a long-time PS fan, but I'm buying XBox if it's any cheaper at all.
 

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You probably a young cat so you don't know but this thing shyts on what Sony did in 2006 wit the PS3.
Neo-Geo, 1990................$700.
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Did it sell well? No it didn't. Only reason why PS3 sold that much is because of Sony stans justifying paying for that much. If Nintendo or M$ ever done that, people will rip them to shreds. But since it's Sony and the PS logo, everyone is suppose to keep their mouth shyt. :comeon:
 

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Yeah Sony is terrible at marketing games, but Microsoft stopped promoting Alan wake when it flopped too, I wouldn't dare call that a low quality title for that reason tho:aicmon:

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't dark souls basically demons souls 2? If Sony pushed that to be a multi plat then that's they loss, but its a win for us gamers since more people have access to it now.

Lots of studios have closed down this gen. Not just sony's. Microsoft also has deeper pockets while Sony is financially in trouble.

As long as Sony keeps putting out lots of diverse and quality titles then why should I worry?

I know your gonna say something about sequels but Sony has introduced more than a hand full of new ips this gen, so what if theses games get sequels.

Sony is actually more likely to green light games that are way out left field,

Lbp, heavy rain, etc.

I can't see Microsoft even putting money into a game that's not a garenteed hit

Dark souls was created because SCE Japan Studio refused to invest in demonsouls 2 because they thought part 1 was "crap" after playing the game for 2 hours. sony then went on and refused to import the game to the us. demon souls was then imported to US by atlus which then became a successful niche title. fromsoftware and sony has had a terrible relationship since so they created dark souls because sony owns the demonsouls IP.

Microsoft has opened 10 studios and have 4+ AAA core ips coming from Black tusk alone. they also have a new internal studio in redmond we dont know what they name is yet.....that consist of talent from naughtydog, suckerpunch, irrational games and violation :blessed:

I agree alan wake was a blemish probably one of there only ones, it should have been pushed back but they made up for it with nightmare.
That's not even close.....Epic was here BEFORE MS with their Games and Unreal Engine. Eat, Sleep, Play was a new studio who was contracted to do Twisted Metal. They aren't owned by Sony and can do what they want. As Snoman said, Dark Souls was pretty much demon's souls 2.

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:what: you sound dumb as fukk eat sleep play was david jaffe's studio they were considered a SECOND PARTY upstart which makes it worse.
 

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Did it sell well? No it didn't. Only reason why PS3 sold that much is because of Sony stans justifying paying for that much. If Nintendo or M$ ever done that, people will rip them to shreds. But since it's Sony and the PS logo, everyone is suppose to keep their mouth shyt. :comeon:

I'm just pointing out that Sony wasn't the only company to release a system with a stupid price tag. These dudes did it in 1990 and all it had was arcade style graphics. Only reason PS3 was priced so high was because it was the most affordable Bluray player at the time. Sony adjusting the price and still selling more consoles worldwide than M$ shows they know how to recover from self-inflicted disaster.
 

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Did it sell well? No it didn't. Only reason why PS3 sold that much is because of Sony stans justifying paying for that much. If Nintendo or M$ ever done that, people will rip them to shreds. But since it's Sony and the PS logo, everyone is suppose to keep their mouth shyt. :comeon:

Why you acting like its set in stone that the ps 4 is gonna be more? Cause soneone in this thread said so?:ufdup:

They already said that they wont come out costing more than Microsoft,

And also there was a reason the ps3 cost so much. Any other blu ray player at the time cost over a grand:wtf:
 

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Yeah, but that is no justification of paying $500+ for a console at launch. Some things shouldn't be costing them that much to buy. By buying PS3 when it was expensive and buying Vita when it was that absurd price, you giving Sony incentive to be making overpriced systems, despite them underperforming/ flopping. They will continue with the PS4. Even the rumor of that $899 is just :comeon: . I never heard of no rumor of a gaming system costing that much.

PS3 was $800+ to make at the time it was released with a $200+ and $300+ loss, so I can't say it was overpriced. PS3 was the cheapest Blu-ray player at the time lol
 

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You probably a young dude so you don't know but this thing shyts on what Sony did in 2006 wit the PS3.
Neo-Geo, 1990................$700.
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games were like $200

3DO was expensive at the time. I think it dropped with a $600 price tag.
 

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PS3 was $800+ to make at the time it was released with a $200+ and $300+ loss, so I can't say it was overpriced. PS3 was the cheapest Blu-ray player at the time lol

Even so, it cost them their reputation and caused the decline of Japanese Games in America. Their smaller than expected installer base forced Japanese developers to go to the 360 cause they needed to make a profit. In turn of the Blu Ray, very few 3rd party companies ever released exclusives for the PS3 and cause even long time supporters of the PS brand to go elsewhere. They lost a lot of things that built the PS brand in support of the Blu Ray. Was it worth it?

So why the Vita so damn expensive? And where are the original games after 2 years of release? I ain't even a M$ stan, but how Sony is so damn arrogant after this, and still has stans, just blows my mind. If The Big N or M$ done anything similar to this, they would have left the console race long ago.
 

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Microsoft has opened 10 studios and have 4+ AAA core ips coming from Black tusk alone.

So you just gonna assume the games will be AAA before they drop?

:beli:

The last AAA game on the Xbox that was a first party studio creation was....


















































Forza..... :laugh:

No new MS first party AAA games this gen. :umad:
Gears was a 2nd party game.
 

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So you just gonna assume the games will be AAA before they drop?

:beli:

The last AAA game on the Xbox that was a first party studio creation was....


















































Forza..... :laugh:

No new MS first party AAA games this gen. :umad:
Gears was a 2nd party game.


:yawn::yawn::yawn: Exclusives is exclusives its about to get real ugly :yayo:
 

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:what: you sound dumb as fukk eat sleep play was david jaffe's studio they were considered a SECOND PARTY upstart which makes it worse.

NOPE, don't matter who started the studio, it's not owned by Sony. And he aint there no more anyway
 

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So why the Vita so damn expensive? And where are the original games after 2 years of release? I ain't even a M$ stan, but how Sony is so damn arrogant after this, and still has stans, just blows my mind. If The Big N or M$ done anything similar to this, they would have left the console race long ago.

:comeon: Yea M$ isn't arrogant at all.
We don't need Bluray says M$ Xbox News: Microsoft: Xbox doesn't need Blu-ray - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

Lets not forget about the last couple of M$ E3 showings being dominated by Kinect and shoved on you whether you want it or not. Most gamers don't give a shyt about Kinect but M$ doesn't care. You're gonna take it and like it. I'm sure thats not costing the price of your Xbox to go up :smh:
 
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