East Oakland yall. smh

[im_sleep]

I won't claim to know blocks in either like that. I'm going off of the few times I been in both, never felt no discernible difference...



Disagree. Only Oaklanders and Bay Areans think of Oakland as the black capital of the West....

LA was always the black capital of the West, and always will be unless its population evaporates the way it currently is in The Bay. People hear me say that and think I'm saying Oakland doesn't have an appreciable black legacy----->not what I'm saying. At all...

South Central LA was always blacker than Oakland, and people make the mistake of comparing the entire city of LA to Oakland, despite LA being 10x the size of Oakland. That argument is designed to make Oakland look better. South Central is geographically smaller than Oakland but twice as large in population with ~2.25x the black people. That's today. It's always been a stark contrast...

Add in the peripheral cities that contribute to the black culture of both (Hayward, Berkeley, etc; Compton, Carson, etc), the cities surrounding LA have ALWAYS been significantly blacker than the cities surrounding Oakland...

People don't know LA so they erroneously say Oakland is blacker, and it was never true at any point in time...

And Mexicans and whites are reported as having passed Oakland's black population in 2012. That obviously wasn't a long time ago, but it wasn't exactly yesterday either, those communities have been there....

Asians will surpass blacks in Oakland by around 2027, if not sooner....

Thank you.

They don’t really understand how LARGE Black LA was at its peak.

That’s why I just laugh at most of the ridiculous shyt folks in here say about LA.

 

[Premeditated]

Fax! Realist shyt I done heard you say.



Because you gay area lames can't accept that yaw suburban.

Cali has a higher homocide rate than any other state in the midwest and the entire country with the Bay Area having a disproportional amount to do with it.

we collecting out west, ask your favorite rapper

 

[Doomsday]

Cali has a higher homocide rate than any other state in the midwest and the entire country with the Bay Area having a disproportional amount to do with it.

No it doesn't, you delusional lame!

A random neighborhood in South Side Chicago homicides is equal to the entire city of Oakland literally.

The safest city in Michigan would be the worst city in the gay area.

LOL @ saying Cali is anywhere close to the MID. Mexicans who just touched down in America last week run you lames! FOH!

 

[Hater Eraser]

Fax! Realist shyt I done heard you say.



Because you gay area lames can't accept that yaw suburban.

Cali has a higher homocide rate than any other state in the midwest and the entire country with the Bay Area having a disproportional amount to do with it.

we collecting out west, ask your favorite rapper

This lame is from Portland , Oregon breh .. Pay him no mind

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Nikkas need to party less.

 

[murksiderock]

Thank you.

They don’t really understand how LARGE Black LA was at its peak.

That’s why I just laugh at most of the ridiculous shyt folks in here say about LA.

100, and not only at its peak. South Central is still significantly blacker than Oakland today, this is after decades of racial transformation and bleeding black population in South Central...

Cats on another site tried to use Oakland's culture as a reason its blacker than LA, and I had to call bullshyt. What kind of culture? LA's black music history is deeper, longer and stronger; LA's black history in the arts and creative passions like fashion has always been renown; LA has produced more black musicians, athletes, literary artists (writers and poets), comedians, and any other kind of entertainers; LA's automobile culture is deeper and more well known; black LA has produced more mainstream politicians and at the very least an equal amount of political movement birthed by its black citizens....

I literally can't think of one thing Black Oakland/Black Bay Area is more esteemed at than Black LA. Anti-LA cats take this offensively, but they shouldn't---->LA is a Top 10 city in the entire world. Its size and stature and reputation naturally lends to it doing shyt on a bigger level than most places, and the black experience and culture fall within that. It just is what it is...

Oakland is still and will always be the heartbeat of Black Northern California, and has a legacy that can be compared to various places around the country. It was never on par with Los Angeles though, cats just gotta stop with the homer shyt...

You from The City (LA)?

 

[Premeditated]

No it doesn't, you delusional lame!

A random neighborhood in South Side Chicago homicides is equal to the entire city of Oakland literally.

The safest city in Michigan would be the worst city in the gay area.

LOL @ saying Cali is anywhere close to the MID. Mexicans who just touched down in America last week run you lames! FOH!

smh.

you really have no argument. nothing but smilies. even after posting a statistical fact, you respond like a 15 year old cac youtuber in the comment section.

ain't you from Oregon? what's this to you anyways

 

[itsyoung!!]

No it doesn't, you delusional lame!

A random neighborhood in South Side Chicago homicides is equal to the entire city of Oakland literally.

The safest city in Michigan would be the worst city in the gay area.

LOL @ saying Cali is anywhere close to the MID. Mexicans who just touched down in America last week run you lames! FOH!

smh.

you really have no argument. nothing but smilies. even after posting a statistical fact, you respond like a 15 year old cac youtuber in the comment section.

ain't you from Oregon? what's this to you anyways

Portland Oregon most thorough

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Cali has a higher homocide rate than any other state in the midwest and the entire country with the Bay Area having a disproportional amount to do with it.

we collecting out west, ask your favorite rapper

You know you can google this info right? So why lie about it. I feel you tho most of the people on here are dumb and Would believe you.

 

[Premeditated]

You know you can google this info right? So why lie about it. I feel you tho most of the people on here are dumb and Would believe you.

which state has a higher rate?

 

[itsyoung!!]

You know you can google this info right? So why lie about it. I feel you tho most of the people on here are dumb and Would believe you.

I think he means most homicides in the country, which it does by a large amount, but also has the largest population

which state has a higher rate?

a lot of states have a higher murder rate

but they are also a lot smaller.. so if they have a bad city say New Orleans and Baton Rouge, it will spike their rate up, where a place like California that has many cities between LA and the Bay that have millions of population total but almost no crime at all

Example:

Louisiana murder rate is 14.4
California murder rate is 5.1

but Louisiana total murders were 653
while California total murders were 2,022

moral of the story is you can get got anywhere.. except mostly Oregon, @Doomsday

 

[Hater Eraser]

100, and not only at its peak. South Central is still significantly blacker than Oakland today, this is after decades of racial transformation and bleeding black population in South Central...

Cats on another site tried to use Oakland's culture as a reason its blacker than LA, and I had to call bullshyt. What kind of culture? LA's black music history is deeper, longer and stronger; LA's black history in the arts and creative passions like fashion has always been renown; LA has produced more black musicians, athletes, literary artists (writers and poets), comedians, and any other kind of entertainers; LA's automobile culture is deeper and more well known; black LA has produced more mainstream politicians and at the very least an equal amount of political movement birthed by its black citizens....

I literally can't think of one thing Black Oakland/Black Bay Area is more esteemed at than Black LA. Anti-LA cats take this offensively, but they shouldn't---->LA is a Top 10 city in the entire world. Its size and stature and reputation naturally lends to it doing shyt on a bigger level than most places, and the black experience and culture fall within that. It just is what it is...

Oakland is still and will always be the heartbeat of Black Northern California, and has a legacy that can be compared to various places around the country. It was never on par with Los Angeles though, cats just gotta stop with the homer shyt...

The Bay Area isn't top 10 travel destination breh ??


If you're lumping South Central with all of LA .. You have to lump Oakland together with the whole Bay Area including San Francisco and its Black culture also ..

Vallejo and Berkeley has a lot too . Along with San Jose .

The Bay got black culture breh .. since waaaaaay back

1906 Earthquake

 

[UberEatsDriver]

which state has a higher rate?

You talking about murder rates by State right?


Last time I checked a few years back it was Louisiana.


Just googled it again and it looks Louisiana and even Alabama have higher rates. Even Arizona has a higher rate.


https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/murder-rate-by-state/


Scroll down to the bottom to see the chart.

 

[thashiek]

People don't know LA so they erroneously say Oakland is blacker, and it was never true at any point in time...

And Mexicans and whites are reported as having passed Oakland's black population in 2012. That obviously wasn't a long time ago, but it wasn't exactly yesterday either, those communities have been there....

Asians will surpass blacks in Oakland by around 2027, if not sooner....

Doesn't the bold make sense though? You said "LA is the black capital of the west" but then specified South Central, finally saying that people mistakenly compare LA to Oakland. So is LA the capital or is South Central? You are making a clear distinction between the two... which also means you need to make a clear distinction between their merit and history.


Just so I am clear, you are comparing Oakland to South Central? And you are using mostly (if not solely) total residents and/or the percentage of black residents as your basis?


I also left the other lines in there because as far as I understand, South Central is predominantly Hispanic.

I have many questions about your post but lets just start there and get clarification. I'm not interested in debate though because I don't know or even really care what is deemed as the black capital of the west. But I am interested in understanding your stance a bit better.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

I think he means most homicides in the country, which it does by a large amount, but also has the largest population



a lot of states have a higher murder rate

but they are also a lot smaller.. so if they have a bad city say New Orleans and Baton Rouge, it will spike their rate up, where a place like California that has many cities between LA and the Bay that have millions of population total but almost no crime at all

Example:

Louisiana murder rate is 14.4
California murder rate is 5.1

but Louisiana total murders were 653
while California total murders were 2,022

moral of the story is you can get got anywhere.. except mostly Oregon, @Doomsday

Oh ok in that sense that’s different