Dwyane Wade to the Cavs for 1-year, $2.3M

[G-Zeus]

No.

Try again.

Stuck on stupid huh?


It's ok... U will be here debating if Wade is an upgrade to jr(to which he himself said yes but hey....opinions..)..Imma be eating thick chicken over here....bomb ass chicken..

A wise man once said...

 

[street heat]

the cavs could be a trainwreck, but its going to be entertaining no matter what

 

[Edub]

It doesn't.

Uhhhhh....yea it does. The cavs struggled most generating offense while Bron went to the bench, meanwhile when KD or steph sat they could still count on Iggy and the bench for production. Adding Wade to facilitate that is a definite game changer.....cavs were bout equal to GS when Bron was on the court....when he sat is when they deflated.

 

[Edub]

Stuck on stupid huh?


It's ok... U will be here debating if Wade is an upgrade to jr(to which he himself said yes but hey....opinions..)..Imma be eating thick chicken over here....bomb ass chicken..

A wise man once said...

Can't tell homie nothin' breh...we like three seasons in now and buddy as hard headed as ever.

 

[TheNig]

Uhhhhh....yea it does. The cavs struggled most generating offense while Bron went to the bench, meanwhile when KD or steph sat they could still count on Iggy and the bench for production. Adding Wade to facilitate that is a definite game changer.....cavs were almost equate to GS when Bron was on the court....when he say is when they deflated.

If anything... It sounds like you're tryna convince yourself.

 

[bxrfan]

I feel like Wade will come off the bench for now while Isaiah's out and when he comes back he'll be reinserted to the starting lineup with Rose taking his place as sixth man. That way there'll always be an equal amount of shooting and slashing in the backcourt between Isaiah, Wade, Rose and JR

Not sure where that leaves Shumpert and Korver though

 

[Rigby.]

Uhhhhh....yea it does. The cavs struggled most generating offense while Bron went to the bench, meanwhile when KD or steph sat they could still count on Iggy and the bench for production. Adding Wade to facilitate that is a definite game changer.....cavs were almost equate to GS when Bron was on the court....when he say is when they deflated.

I would say the two biggest examples of how Wade can help were in game 3 and 5...Games where Cleveland had clearly figured out to at least patch up the defense and give up the right looks...well I'll break down the two separately (IMO)

Game 3 - pretty easy, you can compare this to game 4 of the year prior in terms of how it went, albeit to different extremes. Cleveland looked pretty in charge for the first 3 quarters, and in game 4's case, even down to the last few minutes of the 4th, but the wheels just came off for the big 2. Its almost the same story, Bron was completely ineffective, seemingly burnt out when it mattered, and Kyrie, who gave an equal if not better offensive performance, wasnt able to maintain the pace well enough at any point for Bron to sit. The rest of the team contributed largely nothing, and once the offense flamed out from the leading duo, no one else could turn it on and give assistance. Wade could've potentially resolved this situation by giving Kyrie a respectable facilitator to handle that part while Bron sat down at some point during the early to mid 4th. Would've gave him more juice to close out better

Game 5 - This one is alot harder to resolve off of stats (because the game did appear to be pretty evenly distributed amongst the stars and help for CLE), but Wade does allow a massive turning point in this game to not occur. Other than the bullshyt ignorance to KD not getting his 3rd foul in the first quarter (which he should've), Bron subs out like last quarter, maybe 2 minutes to go? Kyrie immediately goes into tunnel vision mode. Early 2nd, Deron subs in, immediately gets ripped, stolen, commits a myriad of turnovers. Cleveland is already in like a 10 to 12-0 hole in the beginning of the 2nd, immediately losing a 4 pt 1st qtr advantage that could've been even larger after all the effort it seemed like Cleveland put. They'd go on to lose that quarter by 15 points following a 28-4 run. They actually won the 3rd, but by that point it was just too late. What Wade does is basically the same thing, he doesnt allow the train to completely go off the rails when Bron goes out.

What Wade brings for this second unit may not be enough to outright beat GSW currently, but it at least gives Bron and the coaching staff the knowledge that they can trust a tried and true veteran to not completely shut down the offense during times of rest. He also gives Isaiah some assistance as he's presumably running with the twos to get reconnected with in-game motions. Last year, Bron and Kyrie-less 2nd units featured Deron and a bunch of ball stoppers. Between IT and Wade, two guys who have starred in stellar motion systems, the ball should at least keep moving

 

[Rigby.]

I feel like Wade will come off the bench for now while Isaiah's out and when he comes back he'll be reinserted to the starting lineup with Rose taking his place as sixth man. That way there'll always be an equal amount of shooting and slashing in the backcourt between Isaiah, Wade, Rose and JR

Not sure where that leaves Shumpert and Korver though

I think Shumpert is very likely to phase out once they find out how much small ball vs big ball they wanna run in the second lineup, and how much they wanna use Cedi, Jae, Tavarress, the auxillary characters. I imagine Channing will still get burn as the backup, but if Tavarres ends up becoming that rim protector (or tall, long body, pause) they need, then Korver needs to be the main part of that second unit to make up for the shooting. They cant completely phase out Shumpert going forward just cause whoever comes out the West is gonna have a myriad of guards/wings to throw out that can score and they still have to find a balance between Jae/Cedi/LeBron/J.R your main force of defenders as of now. When Shump isnt playing totally retarded, he's a pretty respectable hustle guy and is a solid slasher, something they have even less of than defenders.

TL;DR Hes looking like much like he did in the latter half of the Finals where hes just too volatile to play, but they could feature him in some lineups that involve Derrick Williams, Cedi, Crowder, and Bron for potentially more defense or more than likely he'll just be trading pieces

 

[surv2syn]

wade will be starting

breh, I dont think Wade is going to start. I may be wrong but I just dont. OKC had already promised Wade he would lead the 2nd unit. I think the Cavs have this in mind as well. DWade believe it or not is a better 6th man than J.R. at this stage. DWade is going to be a playmaker for the Cavs. he will be in with the shooters. he will be like a 2nd unit version of Bron. I dont even think if Wade went to the Heat he would start. Not because he cant but because at this stage, DWade is almost the perfect 6th man...and he aint trying to play 30 minutes either. all that being said, J.R. doesnt have a problem coming off the bench.

 

[surv2syn]

I think Shumpert is very likely to phase out once they find out how much small ball vs big ball they wanna run in the second lineup, and how much they wanna use Cedi, Jae, Tavarress, the auxillary characters. I imagine Channing will still get burn as the backup, but if Tavarres ends up becoming that rim protector (or tall, long body, pause) they need, then Korver needs to be the main part of that second unit to make up for the shooting. They cant completely phase out Shumpert going forward just cause whoever comes out the West is gonna have a myriad of guards/wings to throw out that can score and they still have to find a balance between Jae/Cedi/LeBron/J.R your main force of defenders as of now. When Shump isnt playing totally retarded, he's a pretty respectable hustle guy and is a solid slasher, something they have even less of than defenders.

TL;DR Hes looking like much like he did in the latter half of the Finals where hes just too volatile to play, but they could feature him in some lineups that involve Derrick Williams, Cedi, Crowder, and Bron for potentially more defense or more than likely he'll just be trading pieces

hard to say what they have in mind for Shump. depends on how he looks in camp maybe. they could use his defense. the man that I think may get squeezed out of the rotation is Jeff Green, unless he looks really good in camp/pre-season.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Can't tell homie nothin' breh...we like three seasons in now and buddy as hard headed as ever.

That's because more often than not I'm right. Remind me again, who was "hard headed" last season when he thought the Cavs had a switch on defense?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Stuck on stupid huh?


It's ok... U will be here debating if Wade is an upgrade to jr(to which he himself said yes but hey....opinions..)..Imma be eating thick chicken over here....bomb ass chicken..

A wise man once said...

That would be you (as per usual). What you're saying doesn't even make any sense. I don't even think you know you're not making any sense.

 

[G-Zeus]

That would be you (as per usual). What you're saying doesn't even make any sense. I don't even think you know you're not making any sense.

it could only be one of those reasons.. you dont need JR to stretch the floor from the bench..they have nothing BUT that..

Korver, Crowder, Shump and if he stays frye can all stretch the floor.. why move a 5th one???????? like fukk point guards?? it doesnt even make sense to move JR to bench UNLESS you also take TT out and move Love to the 5.

my personal belief tho is JR stays and wade runs the second squad, once IT is back ..shump might fly....like have really two distinct line up to start quarter 2 and 4.

throw in wade at the end of quarter 1 and 3 to get his knees going..

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

it could only be one of those reasons.. you dont need JR to stretch the floor from the bench..they have nothing BUT that..

Korver, Crowder, Shump and if he stays frye can all stretch the floor.. why move a 5th one???????? like fukk point guards?? it doesnt even make sense to move JR to bench UNLESS you also take TT out and move Love to the 5.

my personal belief tho is JR stays and wade runs the second squad, once IT is back ..shump might fly....like have really two distinct line up to start quarter 2 and 4.

throw in wade at the end of quarter 1 and 3 to get his knees going..

What the hell are you even arguing now? It seems like you've changed your entire stance to agree with me.

 

[G-Zeus]

What the hell are you even arguing now? It seems like you've changed your entire stance to agree with me.

i never gave my stance until that post.. i gave reason why it would make sense... hypothetical.. because he MIGHT be moved to the bench.. he himself doesnt know where he stand right now..

i dont agree with it... although.. i agree wade is a better player...chase JR off the 3 line and he does the same behind the back dribble that stops all his momentum everytime.. chase wade and funnels through and either hit with that midrange monster or dunks...my personal belief is wade will provide continuity to lebron jame's playing style.. unlike ISO kyrie who drible drives games to death.. wade should definitly be on the bench to provide propper offensive balance to the team.