Dune 2 - (March 1, 2024)
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Timothee did that shyt breh 
Zenbae could have it all
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Movie was EPIC. If you haven’t watched it yet IMAX is a must.
Paul is a cac outsider who is superior to EVERY Fremen (non cacs), he masters their ways in record time and emancipates them from the oppressive cac ruling overlords that never would have been achieved without him and his superiority.
It's Paul who is the best fighter, Paul with the powers, Paul who comes up with the plans. Paul who becomes the leader Paul liberates the Fremen.
White Savior 101.
It is no different to Jake Sully in Avatar.
The biggest issue I had is that the movie despite all the hype is forgettable. The visuals are good but that’s it. Everything else was flat
.While watching it I just kept thinking that another director would have made all this epic, grandiose and iconic. And also would have had the foresight to cast better actors to elevate a paper thin script. Because the actor who plays Paul isn't good enough for the role. The same with Zendaya.
There’s action with scope but at the same time it felt dull and subdued and none of it was memorable. If I had to compare it another movie it would be Dunkirk. Do you remember anything from it, any line or any of the characters? NOPE. It will be the same with this movie in a year.
This movie is being protected by the popularity of the two main actors, Zendaya and the actor who plays Paul. If not for their popularity it would be getting trashed.
PoorAndDangerous
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The white savior trope doesn’t typically involve the white savior adopting the entire culture, learning their language & customs and integrates so deeply into their society, Paul respects their ways and traditions. He doesn’t view himself as culturally or morally superior. He does bring fighting techniques he learned from the Bene Gesserit but the fremen are ferocious fighters and Paul barely survived 1 on 1 combat. There’s no reason to believe that the fremen wouldn’t eventually beat the Harkonnen’s, there were over a million fremen and the colonizers had no idea there were that many. Paul integrates so deeply into the fremen way of life that he feels more connected to it than his original culture. He doesn’t succeed because of inherent superiority, he’s fulfilling fremen prophecies that were planted by the bene gesserit, the path was set for him by others. Dune is a critique of blindly following a charismatic leader, the nature of power, authority, and intervention in foreign cultures. I don’t know what to tell you other than you’re factually wrong.Paul is a cac outsider who is superior to EVERY Fremen (non cacs), he masters their ways in record time and emancipates them from the oppressive cac ruling overlords that never would have been achieved without him and his superiority.
It's Paul who is the best fighter, Paul with the powers, Paul who comes up with the plans. Paul who becomes the leader Paul liberates the Fremen.
White Savior 101.
It is no different to Jake Sully in Avatar.
The biggest issue I had is that the movie despite all the hype is forgettable. The visuals are good but that’s it. Everything else was flat
While watching it I just kept thinking that another director would have made all this epic, grandiose and iconic. And also would have had the foresight to cast better actors to elevate a paper thin script. Because the actor who plays Paul isn't good enough for the role. The same with Zendaya.
There’s action with scope but at the same time it felt dull and subdued and none of it was memorable. If I had to compare it another movie it would be Dunkirk. Do you remember anything from it, any line or any of the characters? NOPE. It will be the same with this movie in a year.
This movie is being protected by the popularity of the two main actors, Zendaya and the actor who plays Paul. If not for their popularity it would be getting trashed.
Its absolutely white savior. The key thing is, why does he just so happen to ride the biggest worm. There's no reason that had to be that way. You mean to tell me he summons the biggest worm and hop on that mofo first try? Two days ago he was saying "teach me your ways". In addition, he infiltrated a culture and smashed their baddest chick. No one else got laid the whole time, cmon now. Josh Brolin couldnt get buns? Knock it off.
Now that being said, they could turn it on its head in Part 3. But Part Two absolutely white savior 101.
Now that being said, they could turn it on its head in Part 3. But Part Two absolutely white savior 101.
Poetical Poltergeist
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Let just admit these cac directors are 
Zendaya got bushed for the whitest cac in the dunes after getting ran thru. 
The darkest fremen were also the biggest believers.
The darkest fremen were also the biggest believers.
Lol yall not in here turning a great movie and story into a racist production.
It was made by Americans so they gonna put a white person as lead.
I can name 5-10 different animes that follow a similar plot. Guess what the characters are Asian because it was made by Asians that's just how the world works.
It was made by Americans so they gonna put a white person as lead.
I can name 5-10 different animes that follow a similar plot. Guess what the characters are Asian because it was made by Asians that's just how the world works.
Torrential
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Incredible movie . Leaps and bounds Better than the first . I’ll definitely be watching it again
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This is suggestive and you can feel whatever way you want about it. For me, I feel the complete opposite of everything bolded.Paul is a cac outsider who is superior to EVERY Fremen (non cacs), he masters their ways in record time and emancipates them from the oppressive cac ruling overlords that never would have been achieved without him and his superiority.
It's Paul who is the best fighter, Paul with the powers, Paul who comes up with the plans. Paul who becomes the leader Paul liberates the Fremen.
White Savior 101.
It is no different to Jake Sully in Avatar.
The biggest issue I had is that the movie despite all the hype is forgettable. The visuals are good but that’s it. Everything else was flat
While watching it I just kept thinking that another director would have made all this epic, grandiose and iconic. And also would have had the foresight to cast better actors to elevate a paper thin script. Because the actor who plays Paul isn't good enough for the role. The same with Zendaya.
There’s action with scope but at the same time it felt dull and subdued and none of it was memorable. If I had to compare it another movie it would be Dunkirk. Do you remember anything from it, any line or any of the characters? NOPE. It will be the same with this movie in a year.
This movie is being protected by the popularity of the two main actors, Zendaya and the actor who plays Paul. If not for their popularity it would be getting trashed.
These heaux is for the sandsWhen you are lisan al gaib you get to do what you want
PoorAndDangerous
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We had these exact conversations in the part 1 thread. People have been misinterpreting Dune since 1965 despite Herbert making it painfully obvious that Paul is not a good person or a savior. People don’t have room for nuance. Denis is French, not American and so is Timothee. We’re talking about an insanely distant future, the mere idea of white or black doesn’t even exist. Dune never explicitly defines the characters race or ethnicity but the Atreides home planet Caladan was described as Mediterranean so it is assumed they were Greek or European.