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'Draymond's the greatest defender in NBA history' - ex-NBA player who played with Bill Russell
- Thread starter Gil Scott-Heroin
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*Can guard 1-5*
*Best defender of all time*
*Dray-mond 'jus sooo 'gud*
Why should 6'7 Draymond Green guard a premiere perimeter player?
pfffttt, the greatest defender of all time shouldn't have to do that.
*Best defender of all time*
*Dray-mond 'jus sooo 'gud*
Why should 6'7 Draymond Green guard a premiere perimeter player?
pfffttt, the greatest defender of all time shouldn't have to do that.
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He can guard 1-5. And he does it regularly.
What I mean by that is, he's not supposed to cover guards for long stretches. The Warriors need him to cover more roles than just simply guarding one ball-handler. He can guard any position, in any situation - that's what the Warriors need him to do in order to maximize their effectiveness on defense. He's their defensive anchor/rim protector. Reducing him to just ONE role is counterintuitive to both parties. I don't know why this needs to be reiterated, time and time again. Same cotdamn reason KG wasn't guarding ball-handlers for long stretches on the Celtics. Same cotdamn reason any versatile big man defender doesn't guard ball-handlers for long stretches.
I have NOT overrated his defensive abilities anywhere in this thread, it is in fact y'all who have underrated them. Most of the folk in here can't even break down his [defensive] game with the proper terminology, back it up with video evidence and data/stats. They simply use their broken eye-test, watch a handful of games and think they have the answer.
Do you think the majority of this board knows that Draymond was statistically the #1 ISO defender last season?
Do you think the majority of this board knows that Draymond was statistically the #1 post defender last season?
Do you think the majority of this board knows that Draymond was statistically a top-5 spot-up defender last season?
Do you think the majority of this board knows that Draymond has statistically been an elite rim protector for the last 2-3 seasons (is comparable to the likes of Gobert and Porzingis)?
Do you think the majority of this board knows that Draymond guards more shot attempts than the entire league, while holding opponents to under 5%/6% of their usual FG% - a feat that 99.9% of players can't claim?
Do you think the majority of this board knows that Draymond has arguably the largest defensive workload in the league?
Do you think the majority of this board knows every little detail of Draymond's defensive activity?
Draymond has the ability to defend any type of player, through positions 1-5: post-up, spot-up and face-up bigs, ball-handlers both guards and wings, catch-and-shoot guards/wings etc etc.
This is unequivocally, 100% false. Draymond's lateral quickness is not only arguably the best out of all big men, but it's even up there with the elite defensive wings, after all he basically is built like a typical SF. Not to mention his BBIQ and wingspan allow him to shadow almost every guard in the league. There's a reason why he defended more ISO attempts than any other player last season and held them to 30% shooting. Yes you heard that right - defending more ISO posessions than any other player while keeping his opponents to 30% shooting. All due to the fact he can handle himself against any type of player, in all positions. His lateral quickness is one of the main reasons why he can switch out on ball-handlers,
These clips are littered with posessions of him staying-on-the-hip of ball-handlers from last season:
Breh, you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about.. More fool me that I expected dudes to have a sound basis of his defensive skillset.
Take posts out of context brehs. Fail to comprehend that Draymond is the Warriors defensive anchor/rim protector who has an infinite # of defensive roles and expect GS to just put him on a wing player, and have the Warriors defense exposed when nobody can fulfill his roles with the same effectiveness brehs.*Can guard 1-5*
*Best defender of all time*
*Dray-mond 'jus sooo 'gud*
Why should 6'7 Draymond Green guard a premiere perimeter player?
Marion and Battier were never rim protectors like that. Try again.Put prime Battier or Shawn Marion on GSW and they do what Draymond does if not better....
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Let's clear this up right quick - Draymond is not the best defender in history, because there is no definitive best defender in history. Barnett didn't specifically say that he was the GOAT either. He is however one of the GOATs already, and will most likely go down as a top-5 defender OAT if he remains relatively healthy throughout his career.
He's had a # of defensive masterpieces in playoff series' (and he's only 26):
Rockets '16 series
Second half of the Thunder '16 series
First half of the Cavs '16 series (if he wasn't suspended and Iggy didn't fukk up his back - it would've extended for the whole series)
And the most important one of all - the Cavs '15 series - where he anchored the Warriors defensive from the 5 en route to winning three games straight
Why do y'all say this nonsense like Draymond was actually his primary defender when the Cavs made that comeback?Why LeBron roast him in an unprecedented 3-1 final comeback?
Unrelated to the thread, but where do you get all your stats and information at? Those isolation stats are mind boggling and I wanted to look at other players and ish.
Ronnie Lott
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If Bill woulda said Dray is one of the worst defenders, y'all nikkaz woulda ate it up as gossip
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
He'd never say that. The point is he cant stop praising all things GS regardless.If Bill woulda said Dray is one of the worst defenders, y'all nikkaz woulda ate it up as gossip
So why wasnt he?
You have the greatest defender ever and you dont put him on the greatest player you've ever faced?
"B-b-but he had to anchor the d and protect the rim"
Then fukk is the point of touting he can guard 1-5 and shut down great players when he never does it when necessary anyway?
Same argument, round and round in circles
I've already explained to you why that is (over and over and over again), and a # of other posters have said the same damn thing. Whether you choose to acknowledge that or not is up to you.You have the greatest defender ever and you dont put him on the greatest player you've ever faced?
"B-b-but he had to anchor the d and protect the rim"
Then fukk is the point of touting he can guard 1-5 and shut down great players when he never does it when necessary anyway?
Same argument, round and round in circles
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
Draymond isnt in Marion's leaguePut prime Battier or Shawn Marion on GSW and they do what Draymond does if not better....
@GoddamnyamanProf for somebody that accuses others constantly of not knowing what they're talking about when it comes to basketball, you sure do have a limited understanding of how defenses work. 