Draymond: “Old fvcks” need to accept Bron>>>MJ

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Goats don't get locked up on perimeter by old ass Jason Terry and old ass Jason Kidd instead of taking them to the block.

Goats ain't left wide open mid range by the spurs.

Goats don't have bad footwork that travels multiple times every game without it being called and signature move is a crab dribble.

Goats aren't 6'8" 250 with a wack post game.

Goats aren't the best driver of the basketball ball in modern times... but can't muster up foot speed and coordination to be a good one-on-one defender


Bron ain't Goat nor 2nd best. Bron ain't even better than Kobe....but Bron a HOFer though.
LeBron ain't a good one-on-one defender but somehow made 6 All-Defensive Teams and was a runner-up for the DPoY award several times?

U don't know shyt about defense. Most of LeBron's lapses today are typical for older players such as idleness, missing rotations, and not getting back in transition. He's still a + defender overall. My man who are these players torching LeBron one-on-one surely you must have footage or some type of stats that show LeBron is being cooked on the perimeter? :mjlol:

There is a concerted effort among you LeBron haters to make him out to be this bottom tier defender in the league today when there is no evidence of that in fact LeBron's defensive longevity surpasses both MJ and Kobe as today he remains a strong defensive playmaker and he still has versatility and fundamentals on defense.

I guess because LeBron doesn't pull up his shorts and make mean faces and give the media soundbites about taking pride in his defense constantly he's never been a good one-on-one defender. :mjlol:

This nikka said the crab dribble :mjlol: is it 2008? If the game were called tightly MJ himself would have been whistled on travels and especially carries often such a garbage ass casual, LeBron hater post. :camby:
 
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Like the assist record. Its a great accomplishment. But it you took you mad long compared to Magic. When you break it down by seasons, its clear Magic was better in that area.
When you break it down it’s clear to see that Magic prioritised passing more than Bron did. Just because he got more assists within a comparable time frame doesn’t mean he’s a better passer, by default. Bron was opting to score to a far greater degree, so it stands to reason he’s not going to keep pace with someone whose Plan A, B and C was to pass.

It’s ridiculous this needs to be pointed out to grown ass men.
 
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Resume = MJ
Longevity/Durability = Bron
Scoring = MJ
Passing = Bron
Rebounding = Bron

Defense = even...both could be elite but were limited because they had to carry the load on offense

"Clutch"/Intangibles = MJ
FT Shooting = MJ
3 PT shooting = ??? MJ didn't take many, hard to judge

I think MJ was a better player while Bron is more versatile. Wilt is better than both for raw talent.

Starting a team? I might pick Bron because he can cover more flaws on my squad.
 

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Greatest GM's - how many championships did Krause win before or after Jordan?

Greatest Coach - how many championships did Phil Jackson win before Jordan? Phil Jackson was considered a weirdo and a joke around the league before he became Jordan's coach.

Defensive player, 3 pt shooter, rebounder - Jordan is the only all time great not allowed to play with good players. Besides, its been proven Jordan played with the fewest all-stars of any of the other traditionally considered top 10 players of all time.

Jordan only played with ONE all star consistently throughout his career in Pippen, yet he is the most successful player ever.

Rodman and Kerr were role players not superstars.

Your other point doesn't make any sense.
Jerry Krause did not want to draft Horace Grant. He wanted to draft some mediocre CAC called Joe Wolf who turned out to be a flop.

(1) Krause wanted to split the Bulls up as early as 1996 because he was an envious, egotistical clown.

(2) He wanted to trade Kemp for Pippen when Pippen was still in his prime in 1994.

(3) He wanted to split the 1997-1998 team up but he was stopped by Jerry Reisndorf.

(4) He brought in an unproven coach who had done nothing in his career to replace Phil Jackson and he flopped badly.

(5) Krause won NOTHING and was a failure without Jordan.

If Krause had his own way, he'll have replaced all of Jordan's teammates with unathletic white guys and Jordan would have been forced to leave the Bulls prematurely.

Anyway, off to watch some NFL. Draymond Green has Antonio Brown status at this point for the absurdities he spews these days. You guys can argue the merits of Lebron and Jordan all you want
you have the Joe Wolf thing completely backwards
 
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Resume = MJ
Longevity/Durability = Bron
Scoring = MJ
Passing = Bron
Rebounding = Bron

Defense = even...both could be elite but were limited because they had to carry the load on offense

"Clutch"/Intangibles = MJ
FT Shooting = MJ
3 PT shooting = ??? MJ didn't take many, hard to judge

I think MJ was a better player while Bron is more versatile. Wilt is better than both for raw talent.

Starting a team? I might pick Bron because he can cover more flaws on my squad.
Fair assesment :ehh:
 

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He makes a solid point. There has never been a more complete player than LeBron. I mean dude literally is the hybrid between MJ and Magic...2 top 5 players...the 2 best players ever at their positions. And Bron has more points than MJ.....and more assists than Magic. That’s indisputable GOAT shyt. Hell he’s even about to move into top 10 in 3 pointers made. Dude does it all.

But gotdamn is this nikka on Bron’s dikk with no plans to ever hop off. He’s even thrown his own team under the bus in favor of Bron. Which is kind funny since he been playing with a “generational talent” his whole career and hasn’t had shyt to say about him for about 4 years.


Gotta love that dedication though:wow:
 

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Bron=MJ

They both 1A and 1B

You cant discuss one without bringing up the other. It's automatic at this point that when someone says "Who's the GOAT NBA player?" the immediate names to the general public are these 2

not in the real world.

nobody has LeBron up there with MJ aside from ESPN.
 
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