Essential Dragonball Super? New series set after Majin Buu saga

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i copied this from neoseeker, maybe it can explain timelines better

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Timeline 1: Main

This is the main timeline in which the Dragon Ball series takes place and ultimately leads to Dragon Ball Super. It is possible that timeline 4 also leads to a similar arc, one where Goku never died in the first place. There are two time/dimensional travelers who interfere with this timeline: Future Trunks from timeline 2 and Cell from timeline 3.

Cell3's travel to the past and Future Trunks'2 trip to the past create this timeline, which "replaces" timeline 4.

Cell3 arrives from the future from the Time Machine he stole from Future Trunks3 in an egg form because he could not fit. He hatches and burrows underground to develop.
Frieza and King Cold invade Earth to get revenge on Goku, and to also destroy the planet. They are killed by Future Trunks2 who appears from the future. Future Trunks2 then meets Goku when he arrives on the planet and gives him the Heart Medicine, from 20 years in the future; he also warns the Z Fighters about the Red Ribbon Androids who will arrive in three years, before returning to his timeline.
In the next three years, the Z Fighters go into intense training, and Trunks1 is born to Vegeta and Bulma as their first child.
Dr. Gero (aka Android 20) and Android 19 battle the Z Fighters. Goku, who did not take Trunks' medicine/antidote, becomes sick during his fight with Android 19. Vegeta arrives and takes over, destroying 19, and Goku is taken home and given his medicine. Dr. Gero flees.
Future Trunks2 arrives back to this timeline and finds the destroyed Android 19, a robot he has never seen before. He begins to realize that this timeline is starting to branch off considerably from his.
Dr. Gero escapes back to his lab and awakens Android 17 and Android 18 who then proceed to kill him. They go on to activate Android 16.
The Z Fighters are defeated by 17 and 18, but none are killed.
Future Trunks3' Time Machine from timeline 3 (used by Cell3) is found, along with Cell's shed skin.
Cell3, now fully grown, starts razing cities and absorbing the people to raise his power.
Piccolo fuses with Kami and battles against Cell3. Cell tells Piccolo about who he is, why he is here, and how he got to this timeline. Cell escapes after Future Trunks2 and Krillin arrive on the scene to aid Piccolo.
Piccolo hunts for Cell3 while Future Trunks2 and Krillin go to Gero's underground lab to destroy Present Cell1 while he is still gestating. While there, Future Trunks2 finds blueprints for the androids which he gives to Krillin to take to Bulma.
To become stronger, Vegeta and Future Trunks2 train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
Piccolo, unable to find Cell, is confronted by the androids. He decides to attempt to destroy them in order to prevent Cell from absorbing them and becoming stronger.
During Piccolo's battle against Android 17, Bulma contacts Krillin telling him that she is created an emergency shutdown device based on Gero's blueprints. It has a range of 10 meters so Krillin rushes to intercept her and obtain the control device to deactivate and destroy the androids. Cell3 detects Piccolo's raised ki and deduces that he is battling an android; Cell rushes to the scene to absorb the androids and complete his development.
Cell3 interrupts Piccolo and 17's fight, quickly dispatching Piccolo and nearly absorbing 17 before Android 16 intervenes. Cell and 16 fight relatively evenly, but in the end Cell manages a surprise attack that allows him to absorb 17 and become Semi-Perfect Cell. Cell proceeds to easily deal critical damage to Android 16 and is going to absorb 18 but is halted temporarily by Tien Shinhan, allowing 16 and 18 to escape. Goku quickly arrives on the scene and rescues Piccolo and Tien before retreating again.
Vegeta and Future Trunks2 emerge from the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, letting Goku and Gohan enter. Vegeta battles against Cell and is clearly dominant in the fight. While they are fighting Krillin approaches Android 18 with the shutdown device, but is captivated by the beautiful android and destroys the remote. Vegeta quickly becomes arrogant with his power and gives Cell leave to absorb 18 to attain his perfect form.
Cell finds 18 and finally absorbs her, becoming Perfect Cell; he then goes on to defeat Vegeta and Trunks. Cell decides to hold a tournament, the Cell Games, in ten days to test his new abilities.
Goku and Gohan emerge from the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Trunks, Vegeta and Piccolo all use the room before the tournament starts. Goku recruits Dende to serve as the Earth's new guardian and reactivate the Dragon Balls.
The Cell Games start and Goku fights with Perfect Cell. Goku eventually forfeits the match and chooses his son Gohan fight instead.
Gohan fights Perfect Cell and, after eventually being provoked into transforming into the Super Saiyan 2 stage, delivers a fierce set of hits to Cell, causing him to regurgitate Android 18 and transform back into his Semi-Perfect state.
Semi-Perfect Cell attempts to destroy the Earth by self-destruction, but Goku sacrifices himself to teleport Semi-Perfect Cell from the Earth to King Kai's planet. Cell explodes, killing Goku and King Kai. Cell's regenerative organ miraculously remains intact, allowing him to regrow himself. Cell returns to Earth, stronger than ever and kills Future Trunks2, but is defeated for good by Gohan.
Future Trunks2 is revived by a wish made to Shenron, and returns to his timeline.
The rest of Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, and presumably Dragon Ball GT happens.

Timeline 2: Future Trunks

Future Trunks' timeline before he travels to the past

This is the timeline belonging to Future Trunks and depicted in a few chapters of the manga. This is the timeline in which any version of Future Trunks did not visit the present timeline. The first part of this timeline, common to timeline 3, is also depicted in the TV special Dragon Ball Z: The History of Trunks. In this one, Future Trunks goes back in time to the main timeline (1) and returns with enough power to kill both the Androids and Future Cell. This timeline can be seen as the "improved" version of timeline 3, which was the "first version" of the timeline for Future Trunks3. Thanks to Cell3's trip to the past in timeline 3, this timeline and timeline 1 were created. In order to defeat Cell3 in timeline 1, Future Trunks trained in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and increased his power. Thanks to his new power, he was able to destroy the Cell from timeline 2 when he came back. In Dragon Ball: Xenoverse, it is implied that before Trunks' use of his mother's time machine, there was only a single timeline: the nightmarish Future Trunks and his mother lived in, but his use of the Time Machine lead to the first time distortion in the history of the universe which lead to the creation of alternate timelines.

Frieza and King Cold invade Earth and are defeated by Goku.
Trunks is born, Goku dies from Heart Virus.
Dr. Gero activates Android 17 and Android 18. They kill him and then proceed to kill all of the other Z Fighters except for Gohan. The Dragon Balls permanently disappear, after Piccolo's death.
Gohan becomes a Super Saiyan.
Over the course of 13 years Gohan challenges the androids alone but never wins.
Gohan trains Trunks, but after losing an arm is later killed by the androids. Trunks attempts to avenge Gohan but is badly beaten.
Bulma builds a Time Machine to send Trunks to the past with the hopes of finding a way to destroy the androids. Trunks takes medicine to cure Goku's1 heart condition with him.
Trunks goes back in time to timeline1. He returns after killing Frieza1, giving Goku the medicine, and warning the Z Fighters about the androids.
Trunks goes back in time again to help the Z Fighters in timeline1 to combat the androids, and later Cell3.

New city

The city rebuilt after the destruction of 18 and 17

Trunks returns from timeline1 more powerful as a result of his battles and training. He quickly finds and kills Androids 17 and 18 with little effort.
Trunks kills the newly emerged Cell2, knowing about Cell's plan to kill him and go back in time (see timeline 3).
Earth slowly rebuilds its cities as peace comes to its inhabitants.
An unknown amount of time after Future Cell and the Future Androids are destroyed, Future Supreme Kai arrives and begins to train Future Trunks, causing Trunks to grow not only into a Super Saiyan 2, but grow considerably in power and gain a new sword.
Sometime after the fall of the Androids and Cell, Future Dabura and Future Babidi arrive with the hopes of reviving Future Majin Buu. Future Trunks intervenes and engages Dabura in combat and easily overpowers Dabura as a Super Saiyan, and kills both Babidi and Dabura in 1 giant blast, effectively eliminating Majin Buu's revival.
Eight to Nine years pass, now twelve years after the fall of the Androids and Cell, an entity named Black, who looks identically to Goku invades the Earth and kills most of the population, calling it "justice." having previously destroyed numerous other planets prior. Future Trunks engages the new threat but is easy overpowered and beaten, despite his greatly increased strength.
Future Bulma Suggests going back in time to get Goku and Vegeta and having them come into the future to assist and begins gathering fuel for a complete trip through time.
18 months later Bulma has enough fuel for a 2 way trip. However Black appears and attacks, with Trunks unable to sense his ki. Future Bulma tells Future Trunks to take what is left of the Fuel and go. Black murders Bulma with a point blank range Ki Blast and Trunks flee's to Future Mai and the time machine. Black attacks again and Future Trunks is once again overwhelmed. Future Mai attempts to help Trunks but is easily knocked unconscious (originally presumed to be killed) by Black. Enraged Trunks powers up to Super Saiyan and attacks and is able to catch Black off guard and deal some damage but even though able to hold his own, eventually beaten but manages to escape with a Masenko
Future Trunks gets away and uses the time machine to go back into the past. Black enraged tries to located him and his Time Ring which he claims he got from a Supreme Kai activates and takes him back into the past where he comes face to face with Future Trunks and the Z-Fighters

Timeline 3: Cell

Cell just before he escapes Dr. Gero's underground laboratory, in his timeline

This timeline follows a similar path to timeline 1 and timeline 2, it notably changes on Future Trunks' second return from the past as in this timeline, Future Trunks returned with the android blueprints from timeline 4, not the massive power increase from timeline 1. The androids were destroyed, but Trunks was not powerful enough to combat Cell. Cell killed Future Trunks and used his Time Machine to go back in time to find the androids, creating timelines 1 and 2.

This is the darkest timeline, as even Trunks is deceased.

Frieza and King Cold invade Earth and are defeated by Goku
Trunks is born, Goku dies from heart disease.
Dr. Gero activates Android 17 and Android 18. They kill him and then proceed to kill all of the other Z Fighters except for Gohan. Gohan becomes a Super Saiyan.
Over the course of 13 years Gohan challenges the androids alone but never wins.
Gohan trains Trunks, but is eventually killed by the androids. Trunks attempts to avenge Gohan but is badly beaten.
Bulma builds a Time Machine to send Trunks to the past with the hopes of finding a way to destroy the androids. Trunks takes medicine to cure Goku's4 heart condition with him.
Trunks goes back in time to timeline 4 (which is created because of this trip). He returns after killing Frieza4, giving Goku4 the medicine, and warning the Z Fighters4 about the Red Ribbon Androids.
Trunks goes back in time again to help the Z Fighters4 in timeline 4 to combat the androids.


Trunks returns from the past and destroys the androids after using their emergency stop circuit.
Cell emerges and, realizing the androids are gone, decides to use Trunks' Time Machine to go back in time and find the androids in the past. Cell ambushes and kills Trunks, gets the Time Machine and goes to Age 7631. This eventually creates timeline 1 and 2. In timeline 1, Cell is destroyed by Super Saiyan 2 Gohan1 with a Father-Son Kamehameha.
Even though Trunks died in this timeline, both Cell and the androids are gone, so Earth presumably starts to rebuild itself. However this world would eventually be destroyed by Future Majin Buu or Goku Black as Future Trunks isn't there to protect it

Timeline 4: Unseen

Little information is given about this timeline, This timeline can be seen as the first "version" of timeline 1. (There was only one time dimensional/traveler which was Trunks from timeline 3 who interfered ) , Cell from another timeline never came.

Frieza and King Cold, invade Earth to get revenge on Goku. They are killed by Future Trunks3 who appears from the future. Future Trunks3 meets Goku when he arrives on the planet and gives him the heart medicine; he also warns the Z Fighters about the Red Ribbon Androids who will arrive in three years, before returning to his future.
Dr. Gero (aka Android 20) and Android 19 battle the Z Fighters. Goku, who did not take Trunks' medicine/antidote, becomes sick during his fight with Android 19. Vegeta arrives and takes over, destroying 19, and Goku is taken home and given his medicine. Dr. Gero flees.
Future Trunks3 arrives back to this timeline and finds the destroyed Android 19, a robot he is never seen before. He begins to realize that this timeline is starting to branch off considerably from his.
Dr. Gero escapes back to his lab and awakens Androids 17 and 18, who then proceed to kill him. They go on to activate Android 16.
The Z Fighters are defeated by 17 and 18, but none are killed.
The Z Fighters find the blueprints of the androids and use it to create a remote control, allowing them to deactivate the androids in this timeline. No version of Cell is seen or known in this timeline and the threat of the androids is over
Future Trunks3 leaves back to timeline 3 to deactivate the future androids.
 

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lol y'all really be caught up in the moment and don't think why would the green rings from the different universe have anything to do with goku and dem own universe and time rings, they wld have to seek out their own kaioshin.
 

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Vegeta, as he's been written in the Super anime, would absolutely hold back against Future Trunks and not kill him (which is what his SSB should be able to do, one-shot, if he went all out).

Pick a different hill to die on.
This storyline just makes you look at the Buu saga like :scust:, what a long and poorly written shytfest to end DBZ

The Buu saga had problems, but it utilized more of its main cast and had better characterization than anything Super has done so far. Majin Vegeta alone >>>>

This arc (minus Goku's retardation that shows up whenever that one guy writes the episodes) is the best Super has touched on though -- so far, at least.
 
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Yeah, he had this look on his face when his master told him about the fusion ability that didn't sit right with me:lupe:
But how would he ensure he be the majority personality of the fusion?
This saga is leaving me with a lot of questions but they haven't really answered anything yet and with what looks like another filler episode next week, it is getting frustrating
 
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The whole point of Vegeta going Ssb was cause Trunks thought he couldn't go ssj3 so Vegeta hit him with the :ufdup:

He obviously could have 1 shot him, but what would be the point.

I think the writers did a bad job at not explaining exactly what blue is and how it was achieved, my biggest gripe so far.
 

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Vegeta, as he's been written in the Super anime, would absolutely hold back against Future Trunks and not kill him (which is what his SSB should be able to do, one-shot, if he went all out).

Pick a different hill to die on.


The Buu saga had problems, but it utilized more of its main cast and had better characterization than anything Super has done so far. Majin Vegeta alone >>>>

This arc (minus Goku's retardation that shows up whenever that one guy writes the episodes) is the best Super has touched on though -- so far, at least.

Suck a dikk or hold one..

Again, for all you fakkits in this thread.. Stop telling me what you think Vegeta would do/was doing. That is strictly your opinions, and not facts. Fact is, he turned Blue and not only did Trunks eat some hits before passing out, he was able to even dodge one of Vegeta's strikes. Whereas SSJ3 Goku K/O him in one shot. Sloppy writing and bad direction. Stop with the fukking head cannon excuses.
 

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Episode ended so dope..Trunks standing tall smiling. Now i know only i can stop the rain. That's a W for Vegeta.
 
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