Dr. Umar Johnson - School Fund Raising Campaign

[swimmingpools]

Most if the time rich blacks are not allowed to really help black folk.
That's why you'll Lebron may give out some sneakers to kids in Akron, but he won't put together a lending program for blacks who want to start businesses or something of that ilk.

I can't blame him, as soon as I get on, I'm getting me a couple of PAWGS and moving as far away from you nikkas as possible

I'm not understanding this. Why aren't they allowed to?

 

[Captain Crunch]

I'm not understanding this. Why aren't they allowed to?

Because a majority of these rich blacks get their money from non-blacks, and they have to be on their P's and Q's if they want to maintain their money. Just like if you went out your way to set up institutions that empower blacks using a majority of your own money, your job will likely fire you. That's why you'll frequently see blacks in the limelight c00n for a check, or never really speak up for blacks(notice no celebs really said anything after the Zimmerman verdict).

Also, in the case of the athletes, they'll get fined or railroaded from the league if they ride for black folks.
A player on one of those 90's Chicago Bulls teams was blackballed from the league, for refusing to see the President and supposedly supporting The NOI, so imagine if Kobe came out today and gave Umar 12 million to build a couple of schools and starting speaking for black issues. This is not the 60's- 70's, where guys like Ali and Bill Russell can speak for black folks, without major persecution. Nowadays athletes are locked into a bunch of character clauses or subject to fines, that will be fukk up their money if they break them(peep Roy Hibbert being fined out the ass for saying "no homo") or Desean Jackson being cut for knowing some gang members.

 

[Master Teacher]

Most if the time rich blacks are not allowed to really help black folk.
That's why you'll Lebron may give out some sneakers to kids in Akron, but he won't put together a lending program for blacks who want to start businesses or something of that ilk.

I can't blame him, as soon as I get on, I'm getting me a couple of PAWGS and moving as far away from you nikkas as possible

maybe lerbon doesn't know who Umar johnson is or is even trying to do this

money isn't enough, you need a plan, and just because black celebrities have money doesn't mean they know how to use it to build communities
which is we have to network with each other and get behind those with plans that can work

 

[Master Teacher]

Because a majority of these rich blacks get their money from non-blacks, and they have to be on their P's and Q's if they want to maintain their money. Just like if you went out your way to set up institutions that empower blacks using a majority of your own money, your job will likely fire you. That's why you'll frequently see blacks in the limelight c00n for a check, or never really speak up for blacks(notice no celebs really said anything after the Zimmerman verdict).

Also, in the case of the athletes, they'll get fined or railroaded from the league if they ride for black folks.
A player on one of those 90's Chicago Bulls teams was blackballed from the league, for refusing to see the President and supposedly supporting The NOI, so imagine if Kobe came out today and gave Umar 12 million to build a couple of schools and starting speaking for black issues. This is not the 60's- 70's, where guys like Ali and Bill Russell can speak for black folks, without major persecution. Nowadays athletes are locked into a bunch of character clauses or subject to fines, that will be fukk up their money if they break them(peep Roy Hibbert being fined out the ass for saying "no homo") or Desean Jackson being cut for knowing some gang members.

Those guys stood up in much more dangerous times to do so, it's no excuse for them in this age

They don't help, because they don't feel they need too, they think its post racial america and color doesn't matter everyone has the same oppertunity


either that or they do not know how to help

 

[swimmingpools]

Because a majority of these rich blacks get their money from non-blacks, and they have to be on their P's and Q's if they want to maintain their money. Just like if you went out your way to set up institutions that empower blacks using a majority of your own money, your job will likely fire you. That's why you'll frequently see blacks in the limelight c00n for a check, or never really speak up for blacks(notice no celebs really said anything after the Zimmerman verdict).

Also, in the case of the athletes, they'll get fined or railroaded from the league if they ride for black folks.
A player on one of those 90's Chicago Bulls teams was blackballed from the league, for refusing to see the President and supposedly supporting The NOI, so imagine if Kobe came out today and gave Umar 12 million to build a couple of schools and starting speaking for black issues. This is not the 60's- 70's, where guys like Ali and Bill Russell can speak for black folks, without major persecution. Nowadays athletes are locked into a bunch of character clauses or subject to fines, that will be fukk up their money if they break them(peep Roy Hibbert being fined out the ass for saying "no homo") or Desean Jackson being cut for knowing some gang members.

I think that this is an excuse. A sorry excuse, at that. They'd rather hang on to their incoming coins, even though they're wealthy, instead of taking a risk for the community. I think If word got out about their plans for what they're trying to build for the community, black people would have no problem supporting them. It's time for them to break from under that fear.

The no homo comment and knowing gang members sounds like a valid reason for cutting or suspension, I guess. I don't think those examples are anywhere near the same as doing something positive for your own.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Those guys stood up in much more dangerous times to do so, it's no excuse for them in this age

They don't help, because they don't feel they need too, they think its post racial america and color doesn't matter everyone has the same oppertunity


either that or they do not know how to help

Breh, I'm not going to argue with you. I'll leave you with this, everyday black people(including me and you) spend a majority of their money on bullshyt and can easily out the funds for things(we don't need Lebron to fund create that after school program or the government check). Other communities do not rely on the rich to supplant their needs, they simply pool their money together to get things done.

It doesn't take much to fund Umar's school, all we need is for us as a collective to pool some our Jordan money($150+) or money for casinos/lotto tickets to get this done. If you don't want to fund Dr. Umar's school, then by all means don't. There's other black causes you can contribute to if you want to, like the Harvest Institute(black think tank); Harlem Children Zone(black school), among other things.

If you recognize an issue in your area among black folks, then you can choose to attempt to combat it. For example, out in NY, I recognize that a lot of black youths are unemployed. So I'm trying to put together a program that employs HS students to tutor elementary kids, and I'm going to do this without the money of the govt. and likely black celebs.

 

[Master Teacher]

Breh, I'm not going to argue with you. I'll leave you with this, everyday black people(including me and you) spend a majority of their money on bullshyt and can easily out the funds for things(we don't need Lebron to fund create that after school program or the government check). Other communities do not rely on the rich to supplant their needs, they simply pool their money together to get things done.

It doesn't take much to fund Umar's school, all we need is for us as a collective to pool some our Jordan money($150+) or money for casinos/lotto tickets to get this done. If you don't want to fund Dr. Umar's school, then by all means don't. There's other black causes you can contribute to if you want to, like the Harvest Institute(black think tank); Harlem Children Zone(black school), among other things.

If you recognize an issue in your area among black folks, then you can choose to attempt to combat it. For example, out in NY, I recognize that a lot of black youths are unemployed. So I'm trying to put together a program that employs HS students to tutor elementary kids, and I'm going to do this without the money of the govt. and likely black celebs.

First off that's wrong

you walk into any private school you will total wings donated by their own, gyms, computers, whatever the list goes on and on
your stupid if you think that

and the goal shouldn't be to get a black youth jobs, it should be to give them the best tools possible to innovators and creators

you any where talking about jordans man, be serious man

I tried to open a school like Umar and I'm not even 30 years old

the problem I came across is I don't have enough money to operate the school for 2 years before I can be credited as a University and receive government money

so yes that could easily solve the problem

there is no reason why black kids shouldn't be going to black schools are the best equipped in the country, its just nobody has thought to make it happen

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

So there are people who are actually donating money to this self-promoting fraudulent rapid-fire -spitting smartdumb Creflo Dollar in a kufi charlatan?

This is definitely an embarrassing look for the coli. Y'all would probably would join some Heaven's Gate or Jim Jones cult type shyt if they were black and charismatic enough.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

So there are people who are actually donating money to this self-promoting fraudulent rapid-fire -spitting smartdumb Creflo Dollar in a kufi charlatan?

This is definitely an embarrassing look for the coli. Y'all would probably would join some Heaven's Gate or Jim Jones cult type shyt if they were black and charismatic enough.

Can you recommend some black organizations that we should be donating to instead ?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

yeah, thats IF we know about it. how many people do you think are currently aware that he's accepting donations for his school? i mean the youtube video has less than 1,500 views for christ sake. fukk it, i'mma put this up on worldstar

The bolded is what we're going to have to do to succeed, it'll have to be 100% grass roots (like the majority of black movements). Let's be honest, a dude like Umar isn't going to get mainstream coverage. It'd be one thing if he said "I'm building a school for at risk minorities. I believe we need alternative schools to help these underprivileged youths, won't you help "

But this dude came out the gate saying white America is hell bent on destroying black people, and he rejects the kakistocracy. He has 0 desire to work with or interact with cacs on any level, and he feels it's his job to destroy white supremacy through educating our children about their own greatness. I wouldn't be shocked if the FBI already has a file on him.

stop listening to tariqs nonsense because that isn't true, they just aren't interested in helping black folks.

I was waiting for you to say the bolded

But on the flip side Tariq does have a point. Jay-Z made national headlines for wearing a 5% chain.

Jay Z’s bling from ‘whites are devils’ group | New York Post

Now could you imagine if say Lebron James came up and endorsed Umar openly? Man ESPN's leading article would be "Lebron James donates a million dollars to support a Black Supremacist organization." Steven A. Smith would be on first take saying how Lebron James is just as bad as Donald Sterling and black people need to stop being racist against white people

Either way, we all gotta do our part

Burns me up man.. While it is their money and they dont have to do anything and I know alot of them do donate I feel like they arent doing enough. They should do groups of donations that target certain issues instead of " here take this money" and make sure that money does what it was intented to do.

I mean no disrespect when I ask this, but what % of your money do you give to support black organizations ? If you don't have any money, how much of your time are you giving? The reason I ask is whenever this subject comes up, people like to point the finger at everyone else and say what they need to do. Even @marcuz accused me of trolling when I said I believe it's my responsibility as a black man to fix the issues I see in my own back yard.

It's also one of the reasons I fukks with Umar so heavily. He is the only person I know who's actions go beyond just giving lectures and is actually trying to create something. It's why I have no issue giving money and time to help him succeed.

 

[Captain Crunch]

To all the NY brehs, Dr.Umar is throwing a fundraising event in NY soon

 

[WheresWallace]

Let's be honest breh, most these dudes aren't even gonna do shyt to fix shyt. The perfect example of this scenario was from this lecture he gave (go to 1:43:00):



Dude spent his time giving a bunch of reasons why Umar's plan for his school won't work. Umar asked him then what, in his opinion, should be done to fix the problem and he went back to talking about what we shouldn't be doing.

Dudes like @Poitier are pretty irrelevant. For the most part they'll do nothing to fix the problem, they'll just highlight reasons as to why it can't at won't work. So for the part, just ignore them

Fixed your time stamp...niiggas like this piss me off. All that talk about "that wont work, that wont work either" and when he was asked the simple question of..."What should we do then?"

this niiggga get the mumbling...duh, uh, uh...

If you have no suggestions then sit ya ass down. Also, niiggas like to make suggestions that they dont want to follow up on. Everybody will say,

Group: we need to build our own schools...
Go Against the Grain Niigga: naw we need to build better media outlets
Group: okay, build better media outlets then.
Go Against the Grain Niigga: uh, um, um.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Fixed your time stamp...niiggas like this piss me off. All that talk about "that wont work, that wont work either" and when he was asked the simple question of..."What should we do then?"

this niiggga get the mumbling...duh, uh, uh...

If you have no suggestions then sit ya ass down. Also, niiggas like to make suggestions that they dont want to follow up on. Everybody will say,

Group: we need to build our own schools...
Go Against the Grain Niigga: naw we need to build better media outlets
Group: okay, build better media outlets then.
Go Against the Grain Niigga: uh, um, um.

Exactly. shyts comical. Even in this thread a bunch of nikkas came in saying Umar is a fraud. You ask them who should we give our money to then, they disappear

Same goes for the hidden colors threads. Dudes say its innacurate and how anyone who watches it is an idiot. Then when you ask for recommendations on better films they start disappear and shyt

 

[DrunkenNovice]

A check

The form of payment I can't do a chargeback on if you don't do what I'm expecting you to do with the money..........

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Can you recommend some black organizations that we should be donating to instead ?

Nice deflection. I do admire your civic-mindedness though.