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You're quoting a convicted child molester.

You say that as if

1) I wasn't already aware of that.
2) Hadn't use said quote to draw parallels to his past statements
3) Negating the fact that I've also stated previously (not here) that he, much like York conducted themselves in a manner that if I were to be approach by their person I would take with mounds of salt. When both parties past actions have surely and rightfully sullied their character.

There's no need to hold my hand, I promise you I'm not as dumb as I appear.
 

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Unfortunately youth incarceration rates (and adult males), disproportionate rates of poverty, and children in foster care are indicators that there is a lack of committed relationships; state ordained or not. People with cohesive families working in tandem are not easy to dismantle and exploit.

i agree, i agree fully. but do we need that business contract into to maintain committed relationships? let's assume most single mothers married the first man they procreated with. would that ring solve our communal ills? way i see it, we'd still have deadbeats, and BM going to prison/jail.

hell, might actually be worse for the kids, if some of these dudes were in the home.
 

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I dnt agree with everything he says when he speaks but as far as this interview is concerned he on point like a mufcka

especially with the education and lgbt part
 

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This dude's thoughts on education mirrors every single thing I alrdy thought :banderas:

Yess the mindset is being broadcast to more people :blessed:
 

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Its not c00n talk.. Its real talk...... Enemies are vanquished... not collaborated with.... What period in world history were Europeans complacent with their so called "enemy" without going to war first....?

Its a term that is spurned out of anger and despair...... He's your enemy but you'll buy his groceries... He's your enemy but you'll use his banks..... He's your enemy but you'll let him deliver your babies......? Sounds like a sick mindset to me....
They also lead in unemployed college graduates and college dropouts. Once again, you can cherry pick but the reality is, we need a lot more to not just compete but have a shot at a community again.

...And the fact that it's been proven that a white non-college grad (i believe even white felons) has a higher chance of getting a job over a black man with a degree is another point to throw out there. But ppl just going to keep making excuses for why we should be complacent and accept our permanent underclass status in the system of white supremacy.
 

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Umar johnson just showed all these sheep ass parrot ass nikkaz saying "bububu they say they born gay it must be true"
aint nothing but parrots..

Theres no damn proof but im supposed to sit here and say "oh its a fact they born gay"

Umar johnson giving yall hard truths and not succumbing to the bullying from the western world to conform to their views and yall tight

:umad:
 

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I appreciate this interview and whether we agree or not we are engaging in much needed conversations. So :salute: to him for that. I will say the main thing that I drew from his interview is the fact that we are disorganized as a people. I'm going to take what I learned here and apply it to my business/organization. We have all this information before us not just from Umar but several others in the black community past and present, yet we argue about semantics when we should each be organizing, finding our purpose and creating something that works toward a common goal for our people. That's it. It's simple yet we make things so difficult.

Edit: the phrase honey trap comes to mind when I hear this interview. Google it if you don't know what it means.
 
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They also lead in unemployed college graduates and college dropouts. Once again, you can cherry pick but the reality is, we need a lot more to not just compete but have a shot at a community again.

Not cherry picking.... You have to enroll before you dropout.... and those stats don't count the cats that dropout, but go back and finish up or get their degree at another institution.....
 

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People aren't paying for a public education perse.. They are being taxed for it.... How many middle to lower class blacks can afford school tuition for their kids..?
Even private schools have scholarships.

Even still, just because every person can't take advantage, doesn't negate the need for it. It is a process. We can't wait for everyone before we take the first step.

BTW. We are paying for education in the same way that we pay for cops, roads, etc. Schools are paid by property taxes. Even if you are paying rent, that property tax is included in the rent payment to the landlord who pays for the property you inhabit.
 
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...And the fact that it's been proven that a white non-college grad (i believe even white felons) has a higher chance of getting a job over a black man with a degree is another point to throw out there. But ppl just going to keep making excuses for why we should be complacent and accept our permanent underclass status in the system of white supremacy.


That's what's not being done here.... this was a talk about whether or not Umar's intention or genuine. And the only way to gain true equal footing in America is if a borderline extinction level event happened and we had to start all over again from ground zero... Capitalism doesn't work unless there is an underclass...

We can vastly improve our situation....and I mean immensely......but we're literally like 40 years removed from centuries of oppression and its gonna take time
 

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That's what's not being done here.... this was a talk about whether or not Umar's intention or genuine. And the only way to gain true equal footing in America is if a borderline extinction level event happened and we had to start all over again from ground zero... Capitalism doesn't work unless there is an underclass...

We can vastly improve our situation....and I mean immensely......but we're literally like 40 years removed from centuries of oppression and its gonna take time

I get that it will take time. You can't change years of oppression in an hour. And in a Capitalist society there will always be an underclass, that is true. And I don't think we have a viable alternative to Capitalism so that's the system we have to operate in right now to gain power within our own communities.

My thing is we don't have to be the ones being in that underclass... and I can accept criticisms on what he's saying. But I see ppl questioning his intentions but we don't do the same thing when it comes to the ppl who we know don't have the collective of black people's best interest in hand. He has done the work for years so questioning his intentions publicly with no evidence to back that up isn't what we should be doing. Unless someone can show documentation of him mishandling donations we should do one of three things:

1. Supporting this project with our money if you believe in it.
2. Offering an alternative if we don't believe in it for whatever reason.
3. And if you have no money to donate, no alternatives and no ideas...just keep quiet.

Because that's the code the ppl winning in the game are utilizing right now. We should be doing the same.

It's respect though
 
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