Dr Umar Johnson Breakfast club

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We protect our own to a fault sometimes...... Like how we'll throw a party for a nikka getting his parole granted before we'll throw one for a cat who just graduated med school.......

Lets be real...... Lets just look at this with a modicum of common sense...... There is a plethora of videos that depict Umar as anti-white, anti-government, anti-LGBT, and borderline anti-semitic......

Do you honestly think that he would be allowed to start a school on American soil, espousing these types of ideologies to young people.......:jbhmm:

Ill lean to no but you never know with ws.

Its to the point where i believe we need to support our own in public, and chastise in private when necessary. I think thats more than fair. Umar with his faults, has done a lot by simply sharing his beliefs. Hes a Black man that isnt scared to do or say the wrong thing in the eyes of white supremacists America. How many Black people use their platforms to risk being wrong, or non-pc when it comes to racism and the progression of Black youth?
 
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Ill lean to no but you never know with ws.

Its to the point where i believe we need to support our own in public, and chastise in private when necessary. I think thats more than fair. Umar with his faults, has done a lot by simply sharing his beliefs. Hes a Black man that isnt scared to do or say the wrong thing in the eyes of white supremacists America. How many Black people use their platforms to risk being wrong, or non-pc when it comes to racism and the progression of Black youth?

Well. I guess I need to ask what is his platform and what does he risk losing?
 

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Well. I guess I need to ask what is his platform and what does he risk losing?

Im speaking of this interview specifically. The breakfast club is a pretty good platform if you want to connect with the mainstream and youth no? I had sleepy Black ppl hit me up when Farakhan came through. I expect the same with this Umar interview.

I dont know what he risks losing, but he risks being wrong, or non-pc. Most Black people in the public eye are quick to back down when their check cutters dont like something they say or do. Umar is saying its ok to not drink the ws koolaid. Hes saying our experience is different, and its ok for us to want a different solution because the current system isnt working... Or maybe it is:jbhmm:..... but anyway, Ill stick to my original point. Support in public and chastise in private. WS get wet when they see us go hard at each other. They dont even have to bring out their deflecting tactics because we do the heavy lifting for them
 

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You say that as if

1) I wasn't already aware of that.
2) Hadn't use said quote to draw parallels to his past statements
3) Negating the fact that I've also stated previously (not here) that he, much like York conducted themselves in a manner that if I were to be approach by their person I would take with mounds of salt. When both parties past actions have surely and rightfully sullied their character.

There's no need to hold my hand, I promise you I'm not as dumb as I appear.
Child molestation ≠ fukking strippers
Not accusing you of being dumb, I just thought you were unaware of York's current situation.
I'm not telling you what quotes to use or how to use them, but next time you throw in a quote from someone spouting plaitudes you might want to use someone who doesn't like molesting kids.:francis:
 

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Child molestation ≠ fukking strippers
Not accusing you of being dumb, I just thought you were unaware of York's current situation.
I'm not telling you what quotes to use or how to use them, but next time you throw in a quote from someone spouting plaitudes you might want to use someone who doesn't like molesting kids.:francis:

It's funny how you're gonna try and tell me how not to use quotes, but then essentially say just the opposite.

And If you really think a lot of people's criticism of Umar Johnson is because of the flings he's had with a stripper, then you're slightly in the dark here because the various faults of Mr. Shoemaker go back at least four years at this point.

You know, the first time he promised he was gonna build a school.:sas2:
 

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You could see the sweat on his forehead when asked about the conscious stripper.
 

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It's funny how you're gonna try and tell me how not to use quotes, but then essentially say just the opposite.

And If you really think a lot of people's criticism of Umar Johnson is because of the flings he's had with a stripper, then you're slightly in the dark here because the various faults of Mr. Shoemaker go back at least four years at this point.

You know, the first time he promised he was gonna build a school.:sas2:
You thought you were being slick by throwing in a quote from a child molester in order to condemn another Black man. I caught it, but you probably thought no one was going to pick up on what you were doing. It's like when white people trot Charles Barkley in order pontificate about Black people in order to justify their own prejudices and bigotry.
Question is, Umar Johnson is damn near 40 years old, yet you can only find fault with the last 4 years of his life? Who's really in the dark bruh.
Oh, you can't verify his degrees?
Oh, he hasn't built his school?

What is it about this man that irritates so much besides to 2 things above?
 

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You thought you were being slick by throwing in a quote from a child molester in order to condemn another Black man. I caught it, but you probably thought no one was going to pick up on what you were doing. It's like when white people trot Charles Barkley in order pontificate about Black people in order to justify their own prejudices and bigotry.
Question is, Umar Johnson is damn near 40 years old, yet you can only find fault with the last 4 years of his life? Who's really in the dark bruh.
Oh, you can't verify his degrees?
Oh, he hasn't built his school?

What is it about this man that irritates so much besides to 2 things above?

You goofy nikkas love bringing up white people....when no one else brings them up. And no genius I didn't think I was slick, I did it intentionally.

:mjlol:

Like this scumbag doesn't have a lawsuit filed against him involving two women AND a poster on this site with an event mishap in Florida , not to mention how he (for your sake allegedly) carried himself behind the scenes. I'll leave it at that.

Never mind the fact he originally said he was gonna purchase the school in Chicago, then as I recall it switched throughout various states in the south (HUGE RED FLAG) and let's excuse the fact people called into the more recent property management (not the one in Rochester) and stated that all he did was make that video, and didn't even set up the process in regards to purchasing said property. But yeah, just throw your money at him.

Him dodging a woman on a radio show who asked a simple question about the accountability and the money situation.:mjlol:

Oh yeah, let's excuse the fact he shytted on people who DID donate to him. Even got so far as to verbally threaten supporters by stating that if they had a problem with it, they could go outside and handle it. On top of that stated the children attending his school would be better off staying with him because he didn't want them to be all "multiculturalized"

Oh and let's just forget he allegedly has a child by at least one non-black woman, and on facebook was essentially being berated for taking pics with Hispanic chicks and he late threaten the guy who brought it up.

Couldn't handle the flack he got for being with the stripper, shytted on her, called her a maggot. So he can't handle pressure when he's fukked up a relationship, but he's expected to be the head of a school. Gotcha.

Lied about how an "NBA Player" was going to help him out with the school :russ: Forgot about this one and you know it's bullshyt because it was in the text sessions with the stripper and would've at least dropped buddies first name since he didn't know she was gonna expose him.

He's had this idea since 2011 and we have YET to hear or see the following
  • Not one professor, tutor, teacher's aide or assistant that's on board with the school
  • No actually business plan as to how the school will be ran and how funds will be used to keep the facility open
  • Not one syllabus, lesson plan, curriculum, study guide, summer reading list etc. all we got was an empty "African Spirituality" statement and kept it moving.
  • How the parents can get involved, via possible field trips, extra curricular activities etc.
  • No word on an community outreach which would further cause even more intrigue and valuable press which would surely benefit him and his school in the long run.
  • Oh and no set location on where this school is actually going to be located.
If he could at least keep people informed on the process, had people on board, maybe an actual team of guys behind him utilizing his efforts, then I could see that his heart is at least in the right place.

But he doesn't.

I'm sure you've noticed how this dude has this bad of a track record, and yet I didn't even bother to bring up his laughable revisionist rhetoric concerning LGBT, Women/Feminists, Hidden Cabal Conspiracy Theory, Pseudoscience hooplah? That speaks VOLUMES of this man's character, and we've seen him in his private life to justify our criticisms of Mr. Shoemaker.

And please don't resort to that defeated "you only criticize black people/why black people gotta demand so much from other black people" conscious nikka shtick , because I assure you there's reasons why people give a guy like Jermaine "The Pan-Africanist Saul Goodman" Shoemaker the side-eye and not bro's like Geoffrey Canada.


But hey, he got a packaged softball interview on The Breakfest Club and a spot on a reality show (Bravo, no fukking less :deadmanny:) so I guess he's legit.
 

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You people actually think he'll pocket the money and not produce any results :mjlol:
 

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You goofy nikkas love bringing up white people....when no one else brings them up. And no genius I didn't think I was slick, I did it intentionally.

:mjlol:

Like this scumbag doesn't have a lawsuit filed against him involving two women AND a poster on this site with an event mishap in Florida , not to mention how he (for your sake allegedly) carried himself behind the scenes. I'll leave it at that.

Never mind the fact he originally said he was gonna purchase the school in Chicago, then as I recall it switched throughout various states in the south (HUGE RED FLAG) and let's excuse the fact people called into the more recent property management (not the one in Rochester) and stated that all he did was make that video, and didn't even set up the process in regards to purchasing said property. But yeah, just throw your money at him.

Him dodging a woman on a radio show who asked a simple question about the accountability and the money situation.:mjlol:

Oh yeah, let's excuse the fact he shytted on people who DID donate to him. Even got so far as to verbally threaten supporters by stating that if they had a problem with it, they could go outside and handle it. On top of that stated the children attending his school would be better off staying with him because he didn't want them to be all "multiculturalized"

Oh and let's just forget he allegedly has a child by at least one non-black woman, and on facebook was essentially being berated for taking pics with Hispanic chicks and he late threaten the guy who brought it up.

Couldn't handle the flack he got for being with the stripper, shytted on her, called her a maggot. So he can't handle pressure when he's fukked up a relationship, but he's expected to be the head of a school. Gotcha.

Lied about how an "NBA Player" was going to help him out with the school :russ: Forgot about this one and you know it's bullshyt because it was in the text sessions with the stripper and would've at least dropped buddies first name since he didn't know she was gonna expose him.

He's had this idea since 2011 and we have YET to hear or see the following
  • Not one professor, tutor, teacher's aide or assistant that's on board with the school
  • No actually business plan as to how the school will be ran and how funds will be used to keep the facility open
  • Not one syllabus, lesson plan, curriculum, study guide, summer reading list etc. all we got was an empty "African Spirituality" statement and kept it moving.
  • How the parents can get involved, via possible field trips, extra curricular activities etc.
  • No word on an community outreach which would further cause even more intrigue and valuable press which would surely benefit him and his school in the long run.
  • Oh and no set location on where this school is actually going to be located.
If he could at least keep people informed on the process, had people on board, maybe an actual team of guys behind him utilizing his efforts, then I could see that his heart is at least in the right place.

But he doesn't.

I'm sure you've noticed how this dude has this bad of a track record, and yet I didn't even bother to bring up his laughable revisionist rhetoric concerning LGBT, Women/Feminists, Hidden Cabal Conspiracy Theory, Pseudoscience hooplah? That speaks VOLUMES of this man's character, and we've seen him in his private life to justify our criticisms of Mr. Shoemaker.

And please don't resort to that defeated "you only criticize black people/why black people gotta demand so much from other black people" conscious nikka shtick , because I assure you there's reasons why people give a guy like Jermaine "The Pan-Africanist Saul Goodman" Shoemaker the side-eye and not bro's like Geoffrey Canada.


But hey, he got a packaged softball interview on The Breakfest Club and a spot on a reality show (Bravo, no fukking less :deadmanny:) so I guess he's legit.


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Would it even be legal for him to build a school for black kids only in America? :dwillhuh:

Let's say some white parents try to enroll their kid and they get rejected couldn't he be sued for discrimination? :patrice:
 

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this nikka compared being homosexual to pedophilia :mjlol:

other than that section good interview
 

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Would it even be legal for him to build a school for black kids only in America? :dwillhuh:

Let's say some white parents try to enroll their kid and they get rejected couldn't he be sued for discrimination? :patrice:


Yea I've asked that before, also he is very open about not wanting homosexuals working at the school too, once the gay agenda gets a hold of that :wow:
 

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I thought the interview was incredible and while I don't necessarily agree with his belief about people not being born gay, the point he touches on about the education of black youth is solid. I support that and will provide support to the cause. I just hope he stands by his word.
 
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