well..I think the bars was BETTER on Still Dre no doubt...but thats cause fukkin Jay-Z wrote em..of course they was better..lol...but still...put it like this...even tho the bars on Still Dre was better..I think the bars on Let Me Ride was more memorable...if u get what im sayin...and yea..both of them got more love cause of the beat and hook...but that's what im sayin...without that FRESH sound..mixing..direction..or any of that shyt...Snoop wouldn't have blown up like he did..he had zero direction as a rapper...that SOUND is what made everyone pay attention...then Snoop took it over with his rhymes and charisma...I honestly feel that The Chronic would have still blown up without Snoop...maybe not be as big...but blown up regardless..cause of that fukkin sound that Dre was bringin...that's why u had muthafukkas try bite that SOUND...from the west coast to the south to the east coast...shyt..I think Doggystyle is a better album not only cause of the rhymes..but I think Dre had the better production on that album overall...still..one hand washed the other...I still stand by that...but overall..it was Dre's and DOC's direction and genius...Snoop will even say this...
...but I think both woulda done just fine,keywords being just fine instead of goat category material
U makin sum good points in here man....but maybe u can't completely seperate accomplishments from influence.....heavy bass,synths,instruments,soul singers on hooks,funk samples have been a staple in the west coast sound but Dre blew it up....let's use the example Drake didn't invent the "its goin down,basement" style punchline and people from big sean to luda have showed they did it first and they probaly influenced Drake,Budden has influenced Drake...Kool G rap influenced Nas but Nas had the bigger impact......just random examples,but just becuz sumbody doesn't come up with a style if they blow up with it and are the reason people start to use that style versus the person who originated it is that person still not influential?....blame it on people maybe not knowing all they history but it is what it is....dre is influential becuz he bought it to the forefront not Quik or Above The Law...its just important to remind folks and I think threads like this do a good job of that and will maybe make people look at nikkas who was also influential to Dre.....influence is important but it ain't everything.....his impact is unquestionable and I thinks says a lot more....its influential cats all throuout the history of music who's influence might have gon unheard if not for sumbody else taking that incluence and putting it into they own style,and taking it to the next level.
im not even gonna get into the whole Diddy shyt..that nikka aint really do shyt but have good marketing tactics/schemes...a good ear and basically take credit for everybody else shyt...oh yea he also danced in videos n shyt..lol..Its possible Snoop wouldn't have blown up with Dres sound and he wouldn't have been as great as an artist without Dre but that's what great producers do....and nobodys questioning him as a producer....you can say Biggie wouldn't have been blown up without Puffy...I believe Puffy could've made hits without Biggie bcuz he's proven it....but his work WITH Biggie is the reason he's held in the esteem that he is....which really ain't as high AS A PRODUCER as he should be just bcuz people don't like em and don't wanna give em credit....but there's no Biggie as he is without Puff,there's no Snoop without dre as we know em.....but those two ain't respected as they are as producers and don't have the name recognition and position in the game.....access to the talented upcoming rappers they do without Biggie and Snoops one of a kind talent that they groomed but that wuz god given and can't be taught that really made them standout
In the right situation I think Snoop woulda did just fine with the right producer just like chronic woulda done just fine without snoop,shiiet once warren g had a blueprint to work with he coulda produced a gfunk album for Snoop that woulda shytted on a Snoopless chronic possibly song wise and success wise,and this could be a whole different tthread with dudesasking is "Warren G really influential since Dre made The Chronic first"
slow down there buddy, all this trollin is starting to melt your brain
Without Eminem he would have fallen off completely and wouldn't be called a legend
