Dr. Cornell West on Voting for Biden/Harris, but, not "endorsing" them.

[Easy-E]

Sounds like the trump voters yall get mad at.

"We don't agree with him, but we vote for him".

Anyways, I agree in the sense that Biden/Kamala are the pick...you don't have to support them, but the battle is Trump at this point. I'd be willing to see how Biden and Kamala do before tossing them to the bushes.

I try so hard to be civil and express an ability to concede on things.

But, y'all always fall back to "Trump Supporter" bullshyt.

What has Biden or Kamala done in their political careers to show I need to "wait" also?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

He said it on air multiple times.

Here is a full print interview and the excerpt of him comments below

NPR Choice page

From Aug 2010


COX: Have you communicated with him personally?

Prof. WEST: Well, I'll tell you, I had not talked to my dear brother since the Martin Luther King gathering in South Carolina, and very briefly Super Tuesday. But he did come and make a beeline to me after his speech on I think it was Thursday morning in Washington, D.C. I hadn't seen him for two and a half weeks, and he made a beeline to me, though, brother, and he was deeply upset. He talked to me like I was a Cub Scout, and he was a pack master, you know what I mean?

I said, well, my mother and father raised me right. I respect my dear brother, but I don't like to be demeaned and humiliated in that way, and I didn't get a chance to respond to him. And I hope maybe at some time we can. But it was very, it was a very ugly kind of moment, it seems to me, and that disturbs me because then it raises the question for me: Does he have a double standard for black critics as opposed to white critics?

Frank Rich, Paul Krugman, Maureen Dowd, a whole host of brilliant, courageous critics say all kinds of things, and he treats them with respect. They get invited to the White House. I say the same thing, he talks to me like I'm a Cub Scout.

I dont like that. It raises the question, too, is, you know, how many black folk need to be sacrificed for his campaign and his governance...

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President Obama welcomed and gave access to several Black intellectuals and leaders, so Dr. West was forced to drop the "he sacrifices/drops Blacks who criticize him" angle.

Remember Obama was inaugurated in Jan 2009, this article is from a year and a half later.


I love and respect Dr. West, but he openly mentioned the snub multiple times, and that was the main reason he went in on Obama.

I got more respect for Obama after reading this, cause he had a problem with the nicca and he ran up on him.

Left that nikka Cornel standing there speechless, punk didn't even respond

 

[get these nets]

The list of "accomplishments" thing has always rung hollow. Literally every president, yes even republicans, can point to some half ass shyt they did, and spin it as beneficial. You have somebody like Trump doing that same thing now with criminal justice reforms and "opportunity zones."

The fact remains that Black life in this country has been stagnant at best since the early 70s, and on a steady decline at worst. The question that should be asked, is what a future adminstration is going to do to fix that, because the numbers show every single one has failed on that front in the past 50 years

That's moving the goal posts, isn't it?

The Black middle class expanded during the time frame you are referencing.
And that rise is related to Fed. initiatives by Congress and certain presidents to provide greater access to resources to people.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

And now a lot of us realize that he was right.

I like how y'all keep saying Cornel was right, while not addressing the fact that he hasn't chartered a bus to go on a tour about Trump.

Or are you trying to tell me that Obama was so bad a president that Cornel just had to go on a nationwide tour criticizing him, while Trump isn't that bad?

 

[TEH]

I like how y'all keep saying Cornel was right, while not addressing the fact that he hasn't chartered a bus to go on a tour about Trump.

Or are you trying to tell me that Obama was so bad a president that Cornel just had to go on a nationwide tour criticizing him, while Trump isn't that bad?

He and most of us expected more from Obama


What could he say new about a known racist pos

 

[saturn7]

He said it on air multiple times.

Here is a full print interview and the excerpt of him comments below

NPR Choice page

From Aug 2010


COX: Have you communicated with him personally?

Prof. WEST: Well, I'll tell you, I had not talked to my dear brother since the Martin Luther King gathering in South Carolina, and very briefly Super Tuesday. But he did come and make a beeline to me after his speech on I think it was Thursday morning in Washington, D.C. I hadn't seen him for two and a half weeks, and he made a beeline to me, though, brother, and he was deeply upset. He talked to me like I was a Cub Scout, and he was a pack master, you know what I mean?

I said, well, my mother and father raised me right. I respect my dear brother, but I don't like to be demeaned and humiliated in that way, and I didn't get a chance to respond to him. And I hope maybe at some time we can. But it was very, it was a very ugly kind of moment, it seems to me, and that disturbs me because then it raises the question for me: Does he have a double standard for black critics as opposed to white critics?

Frank Rich, Paul Krugman, Maureen Dowd, a whole host of brilliant, courageous critics say all kinds of things, and he treats them with respect. They get invited to the White House. I say the same thing, he talks to me like I'm a Cub Scout.

I dont like that. It raises the question, too, is, you know, how many black folk need to be sacrificed for his campaign and his governance...

==============

President Obama welcomed and gave access to several Black intellectuals and leaders, so Dr. West was forced to drop the "he sacrifices/drops Blacks who criticize him" angle.

Remember Obama was inaugurated in Jan 2009, this article is from a year and a half later.


I love and respect Dr. West, but he openly mentioned the snub multiple times, and that was the main reason he went in on Obama.

Snub be damned, all of his criticisms of Obama were 100% correct and were based in facts not on hurt feelings.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I

I'll admit it may just be an argument of semantics.

But, it not a false equivalent when the last time we had a nation wide economic collapse it looked pretty similar to what the Republican response was (feed the rich, make the people wait).

No, I do not think the coronavirus would have been handled by ANYONE as bad as Trump has. But, y'all seem to follow politcs based on what CNN tells y'all.

Bow all of the sudden "Democrats care."

Again you bring up global warming and student loans like rent ain't due in two weeks. Nancy Pelosi told us to "pray" as she goes back home to her 100's of millions...but, they aren't as bad as Republicans.



We can talk about the differences in the margins and we could get caught up in the same semantics of "same."

But for all their actually differences the average person is stuck in the same spot.

See, my issue with people is that no one takes the time to get informed. You accuse us of running with CNN while you're running with FOX news.

If you looked into this issue just a little bit, you will know that what you're saying about Nancy Pelosi ain't true. And I have my issues with Democrats. I'm not a Democrat, I'm an independent

Heck, I voted for John McCain in 2008.

But the issues that we are dealing with today can be traced to the Republican party and that fool of a president, Trump.

The Republicans are the ones that are refusing to expand any benefits for the people during this crisis. If anybody is saying "let them eat cake", it's the Republicans.

But you skip past all of that, you skip past the fact that the main reason we're in this current predicament is because these fools refuse to take the virus seriously and are more interested in reopening the economy so they can continue to make money, rather than close it all down and cut the people checks so that we can stay home and get a handle on this virus.

You skipped past all of that to criticize Nancy Pelosi

TLR literally runs with Fox News talking points.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Cornell West and Tavis were dead on about Obama.

More negroes shoulda listened to them. Instead we were so caught up in the image and symbolism of the first "Black" President.
12 years later and we are about to fall for the same thing.

#TavisWasRight

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I try so hard to be civil and express an ability to concede on things.

But, y'all always fall back to "Trump Supporter" bullshyt.

What has Biden or Kamala done in their political careers to show I need to "wait" also?

well here's a simple answer.

We know what we get with Trump. A racially charged society where the president of the United States is openly encouraging his supporters to go out and attack black people.

He is also threatening to send the military into predominantly black cities to "enforce" black ppl, whatever that means.

He loves open white supremacists and takes pleasure in the fact that the Klan supports him.

He tweets out videos with crazed white folks screaming "WHITE POWER" which is only further emboldening his base.

When a pandemic comes, instead of jumping on it immediately, he instead dissolves the office responsible for handling pandemics, while at the same time telling us that the virus is a hoax.

Now, even with the virus having killed over 160,000 Americans, many of them are coli member's families, he is not trying to do a SINGLE thing to tackle the virus, instead telling folks that it will magically go away.

Even though the virus has killed over 160,000 ppl, he's gungho about making sure children are sent back to schools and is trying to do everything he can to enforce this, which means that children are about to start dying.

I can keep going here.

So we know what we get with Trump.

You know and I know that Biden won't do any of this foolishness.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

He and most of us expected more from Obama


What could he say new about a known racist pos

oh, so in other words

"yes, go after that first black president, stomp on him with BOTH feet!"


racist white president gets elected

"oh it's all good, we already know what the deal is, so no need to speak on this "

 

[desjardins]

He was obviously right about Obama, don't even care if it was personal....the shyt was true.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Snub be damned, all of his criticisms of Obama were 100% correct and were based in facts not on hurt feelings.

the breh literally posted Cornel's own words admitting it's about his hurt feelings

 

[Rekkapryde]

He was obviously right about Obama, don't even care if it was personal....the shyt was true.

disagree. all that smoke for Obama, but you don't hear shyt about Trump from him.

 

[get these nets]

Snub be damned, all of his criticisms of Obama were 100% correct and were based in facts not on hurt feelings.

Are you for real here?
Didn't you just post the old Charlie Rose interview of Dr. West copping pleas for Clinton early in his administration?
How do you think his public comments about the Clintons went in the years after that interview?

Are you posting just to post at this point?

If you go back and watch the interview Dr. West's criticisms of the presidency of Obama mirror the comments he made about the Reagan/Bush administration when he was copping pleas for young Bill.
It's a criticism of the office and the influence of corporations on policy.

 

[DamienWayne]

Let Babylon fall


We will rebuild from the ashes