Dr. Cornell West on Voting for Biden/Harris, but, not "endorsing" them.

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I

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Tour

Where is the bus tour? Surely if Obama was so bad that it warranted a bus tour, they should dedicate a full worldwide stadium tour to Trump, right?

That's when he had corporate sponsors though.
Ain't nobody giving Tavis funding for that because of his me too and like you said people are sour on West so...
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What moved goal post? I never laid down a previous one. The time period I referenced covers Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, W Bush, Obama, and Trump administration. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who says that crop produced anything greater than stagnation and the rare respite. Obama is seen by many here as the best name on the list, and questions over whether he did anything, is literally one of the topics of this thread.
You dismissed the shortlist of things that occurred under his administration as though they were nothing.
And you essentially lumped him in with all the other presidents, and called them failures citing the decline of Black America as proof.

I'm saying that there has been success and progress during that time period. Expansion of the Black middle class cannot be dismissed or called a respite.

Depending on the president, the makeup of Congress, and world/domestic economic climate ,conditions for Black people here will vary. Some of the measures taken during the Clinton and Obama presidencies have attempted to create opportunities and provide access to resources for Black people.
 
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That's where I had corporate sponsors though.
Ain't nobody giving Tavis funding for that because of his me too and like you said people are sour on West so...
:yeshrug:




Now you're giving me the bu bu bu

How would you know that nobody would sponsor anything against Trump?

No president has received the amount of public hate that Trump has gotten so much that its to the point where folks are afraid to publicly say that they support him.

It should be even easier to get sponsors for a tour to bash Trump than it was for a tour to bash Obama

Fact of the matter is, these niccas ain't interested in going on a tour to bash Trump because he didn't do anything that they feel was a personal snub to them.
 

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Now you're giving me the bu bu bu

How would you know that nobody would sponsor anything against Trump?

No president has received the amount of public hate that Trump has gotten so much that its to the point where folks are afraid to publicly say that they support him.

It should be even easier to get sponsors for a tour to bash Trump than it was for a tour to bash Obama

Fact of the matter is, these niccas ain't interested in going on a tour to bash Trump because he didn't do anything that they feel was a personal snub to them.
The thing is, when agendas align , people can get support from odd places.

The Poverty Tour occurred during Obama's first time. It would be in the best interests of Republican donors to fund a platform that was challenging the policies of the sitting Democrat president. Not because they cared about the issue but because they stood to benefit.
 
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There is no way to qualify my vote as "I DON'T LIKE BIDEN BU..".

My vote for him would be taken as support of his platform and ideology. It will also be confirmation that my concerns and positions hold no weight and will not be listened to despite the obligation to engage in perpetual stab me/shoot me, vote or die scenarios, I refuse to legitimize that.

And on top of all that, while I agree with Cornell and have agreed with him since Biden was the presumptive nominee..."Vote for Biden but tell the truth about him!" is not going to happen, at least on a large scale. This Obama house nikka dream scheme part deux is already in full effect, symbolic gestures and a seat at the table for one of 'us'...this is a lullaby and I can't sleep through it.

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Cornell West got froze out of the black community because he went out of his way to disparage the first black president because of some perceived slight over not getting free tickets to Obamas inauguration.

A lot of ppl turned on him and Tavis Smiley, two self important niccas that actually chartered a bus and went on a nationwide tour to talk trash about Obama, while coincidentally both these niccas been eerily quiet when it comes to Trump.

Excellent synopsis :ehh:
 

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1) Awarded $1.2 Billion To Black Farmers
President Obama’s administration oversaw the $1.2 billion settlement awarded to Black farmers who have been denied loans and assistance by the Agricultural Dept. for decades.

2) Expanded Funding For HBCUs
President Obama signed an executive order increasing funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) to $850 million over the next 10 years.

3) Signed The Fair Sentencing Act - the one that Trump takes credit for, when it was actually Obama that did this

4) Passed Health Care Reform (Affordable Care Act)

5) Created The Civil Rights Division Of The Justice Department
The U.S. Justice Department under Obama led one of the most aggressive defenses of civil rights in recent memory.



I mean, I can keep going if you want me to :jbhmm:
Logic has no place in a hate thread. You always coming with facts and reason knowing damn well it ain't welcome here :unimpressed:
 

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Its disappointing how much this needs to be explained. Most people voting for biden don't like him or want him. A vote for him is not an endorsement but a repudiation of Trump's political aims and style.

Its like if you'd rather have a doctor who is old and forgetful vs a random crazy man on the street claiming he is a doctor and he's already killed 4 people. I'd rather have the shytty old experienced doctor than a man who is guaranteed to kill me because he doesn't know wtf he doing.

Get Trump and his brand of politics out of the mf paint. This ain't a joke. At the very least biden would hire people who know what they're doing instead of just people he likes.
 
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The thing is, when agendas align , people can get support from odd places.

The Poverty Tour occurred during Obama's first time. It would be in the best interests of Republican donors to fund a platform that was challenging the policies of the sitting Democrat president. Not because they cared about the issue but because they stood to benefit.




I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying that Walmart or a republican donor would fund a tour against Trump right now.

But there are plenty of companies that are proud to stand against Trump, companies that are owned by Democrats.

You telling me Tavis and Cornel couldn't find not ONE sponsor to fund a tour against Trump?

I'm telling you that Tavis and Cornel didn't even try, cause they don't really care.
 
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Y'all nikkas purposely make the shyt more difficult on yourselves by acting all extra... :dahell:

Take 5 or 10 deep breaths, drive yourself to your registered polling center, get out the car and wait in line, sign-in and place your vote, walk the hell outta there and drive off...
:dahell:

It's really not that difficult where you need to be acting all extra like the shyt is soo damn complicated as if you're on a timer between picking the right button or else the world gonna blow up...nikkas just clowns on here.
 
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