Dr. Cornell West on Voting for Biden/Harris, but, not "endorsing" them.

[bnew]

I'm 99% with him.

Because, yes Democrats and Republicans are the same but Trump is unique problem. I do not expect Biden to do much better as this economy is fukked up.

They'll get the "Well they're cleaning up Trump's mess" as they bailout more Wall St. a$$holes.

God, I dread election day.

But, Donald gotta go.

still think they're the same?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

still think they're the same?

breh, it's like @G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman said, these folks ain't gonna read no facts.

Unfortunately. They just regurgitate some false talking points, and then emotionally put their fingers in their ears, if you say anything that could possibly prove them wrong.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

There is no way to qualify my vote as "I DON'T LIKE BIDEN BU..".

My vote for him would be taken as support of his platform and ideology. It will also be confirmation that my concerns and positions hold no weight and will not be listened to despite the obligation to engage in perpetual stab me/shoot me, vote or die scenarios, I refuse to legitimize that.

And on top of all that, while I agree with Cornell and have agreed with him since Biden was the presumptive nominee..."Vote for Biden but tell the truth about him!" is not going to happen, at least on a large scale. This Obama house nikka dream scheme part deux is already in full effect, symbolic gestures and a seat at the table for one of 'us'...this is a lullaby and I can't sleep through it.

 

[HarlemHottie]

yep, I'm a proud independent


Republicans always been a lil retarded, but they ain't never been as retarded as they got under Obama's presidency.

They been off their rocker ever since they saw a black man sitting in their precious White House.

nikka, you voted for a ticket that included Sarah fukking Palin. No wonder Kamala is palatable to you.
Dont ever say shyt to me about voting.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

nikka, you voted for a ticket that included Sarah fukking Palin. No wonder Kamala is palatable to you.
Dont ever say shyt to me about voting.

well at least I keep the same energy... unlike ADOS. The VP choice doesn't really come into play when I'm voting for President. I vote for the person that is at the top of the ticket, not their number 2.

and I will talk to you about voting whenever I feel like it

come join the main thread

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/neotheflyingone-why-did-you-vote-for-john-mccain-in-2008.798954/

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Cornell West got froze out of the black community because he went out of his way to disparage the first black president because of some perceived slight over not getting free tickets to Obamas inauguration.

A lot of ppl turned on him and Tavis Smiley, two self important niccas that actually chartered a bus and went on a nationwide tour to talk trash about Obama, while coincidentally both these niccas been eerily quiet when it comes to Trump.

Facts

 

[Originalman]

They were right about obama. Symbolic victories is why nothing has changed for black america and things continue to get worse.

They have never been quiet on trump. They stay trashing trump. Only reason you dont hear them as much is cause yall c00ns destroyed their platform. Travis dont even have a show anymore.

Travis been blocked out from the media after the incident on pbs. West ain't never in all my years seeing him held his tongue on a president and thats what got him in trouble in the end with Obama.

But because west has not been the go to person on American mainstream media tv you don't see him as much. But if you watch Al Jazeera, sky news, RT or democracy now. You been seeing him for 4 years go in on orange 45.

 

[Originalman]

Their gripes with Obama were directly tied to personal snubs. Before the snubs, they supported him.
More importantly, before the snubs both men held their tongues during the Clinton presidency about the SAME topics that they challenged/criticized Obama about.

The thing is even with Hillary. West stated (same with Obama)..."I love you but when you get in the office I will call you out if you don't do what you said you were gonna do." in the 90s West also had a history of calling out Bill Clinton.

Even dikk Gregory said he wouldn't say anything bad about obama until he got into the white house.

In 2008 there was a lot of "lets not say anything bad about Hillary or Obama. Cause we just don't want the Republicans to get in again since Bush fukked up the country".

Its sort of what is going on now with Biden. Dems and progressives like lets not fukk this up. We just got to get a Dem in the office to clean this shyt up. Thats why folks ain't too much bringing up Biden's mishaps, his sexual harrassment allegations and etc.

Now in saying this yes there was bad blood between West and Smiley. But there was also bad blood between father pfleger and Wright after they held obama ass down for years and Obama kicked them to the curb. A lot of folks in Chicago were hot about that shyt. But as I said folks did a united front cause they wanted obama to make history and get a Dem in the office.

 

[True Blue Moon]

breh, where you been, man? I thought you left the coli for good like other folks

Nah breh I’ve been around

I’m mostly been low key though and chime in about boxing and MMA more than anything else these days. But the Coli is still part of life so I ain’t going nowhere

 

[get these nets]

The thing is even with Hillary. West stated (same with Obama)..."I love you but when you get in the office I will call you out if you don't do what you said you were gonna do." in the 90s West also had a history of calling out Bill Clinton.

Even dikk Gregory said he wouldn't say anything bad about obama until he got into the white house.

In 2008 there was a lot of "lets not say anything bad about Hillary or Obama. Cause we just don't want the Republicans to get in again since Bush fukked up the country.

Its sort of what is going on now with Biden. Dems and progressives like lets not fukk this up. We just got to get a Dem in the office to clean this shyt up. Thats why folks ain't too much bringing up Binden's mishaps, he sexual harrassment allegations and etc.

Now in saying this yes there was bad blood between West and Smiley. But there was also bad blood between father pfleger and Wright after they held obama ass down for years. A lot of folks in Chicago were hot about that shyt. But as I said folks did a united front cause they wanted obama to make history and get a Dem in the office.

I think the Clintons let Dr. West into the fold, among the other intellectuals and clergy who orbited in their circle. Because they had access to the president, any public criticism of them by those in the fold was tempered.

Obama had intellectuals and clergy within his fold, and having an open direct line to him tempered their public criticisms of him.

Dr. West wasn't invited into Obama's fold, and his words reveal how hurt he was by that. Not only did he take the gloves off and put extras on his criticism of Obama, he stayed throwing jabs and uppercuts at the men and women who were allowed into Obama's circle.
He and Michael Eric Dyson stayed throwing strays at each other for years over that.

Leaders should always be called out for policy decisions and following up on campaign promises. What Dr. West was doing was deeply personal.

 

[loyola llothta]

Lies about creepy Joe Biden crime bill

Liberals frequently claim there was broad Black support for the vicious 1994 crime bill authored by vile segregationist #JoeBiden and vigorously enforced by TOP COP #KamalaHarris. Professor Michelle Alexander says that's "misleading at best".

Indeed, speaking on behalf of his constituents and supporters, the Rev. Jesse Jackson blasted the vile 1994 crime bill penned by #JoeBiden and enforced by #KamalaHarris. Jackson called it "Jim Crow, Esq."

https://youtu.be/7pQfKeHtsfo

As Attorney/Activist @MalaikaJabali recently pointed out, the NAACP framed the 1994 crime bill — that #JoeBiden wrote and #KamalaHarris enforced — as "draconian" and "a crime against the American people."



Professor Michelle Alexander documented the huge racial disparities in sentencing #JoeBiden’s 1994 crime bill caused, and #KamalaHarris greatly expanded on those disparities when she was CA AG.





#JoeBiden, #KamalaHarris, and the Clintons have long hid behind certain Democrats willing to put Respectability Politics before principle when it comes to the 1994 crime bill. However, many in the Congressional Black Caucus only voted for it out of "fear" of "worse" bills.

 

[Danktoker94]

What's sick is a Internet politician like @neotheflyingone even got the nerve to disrespect a brother like cornel yes he may have flaws but that brother always been on code and has done way more for blacks than some internet Democrat keyboard warrior some of ya black liberals are c00ns and suckers I get it fukk Trump vote him out but I swear a lot of ya gonna be in a for a wake up call next election after trumps loss this year

 

[Originalman]

I think the Clintons let Dr. West into the fold, among the other intellectuals and clergy who orbited in their circle. Because they had access to the president, any public criticism of them by those in the fold was tempered.

Obama had intellectuals and clergy within his fold, and having an open direct line to him tempered their public criticisms of him.

Dr. West wasn't invited into Obama's fold, and his words reveal how hurt he was by that. Not only did he take the gloves off and put extras on his criticism of Obama, he stayed throwing jabs and uppercuts at the men and women who were allowed into Obama's circle.
He and Michael Eric Dyson stayed throwing strays at each other for years over that.

Leaders should always be called out for policy decisions and following up on campaign promises. What Dr. West was doing was deeply personal.

I guess what I am getting at is there were folks were in obama inner circle or who helped him matriculate through his political career that he kicked to the curb to get to the white house.

As I mentioned obama kicked wright and pfleger to the curb for the presidency. Thats why during an interview in chicago pfleger mentioned something to the fact that obama was just like the rest of the politicians in using the poor to get ahead. And wright mentioned the same that he basically stabbed them in the back and sold them and the community out.

But as I mentioned folks didn't want to hear any bad talk about obama so they both left it alone as not to get any blow back from folks.

Remember Farrakhan said some similar thimgs about Obama being just a politician when Obama denounced him while running in 2008. Then Farrakhan said well I am still gonna endorse you...

Like wright and pfleger said Obama was just like any old politician. If they got to use you they gonna use you. If they got to slit your throat or gut you like a fish to get ahead they will. Just make sure you watch your back, pockets and fingers when dealing with them or having any interaction with them. Or else you gonna get stabbed, robbed or end up missing some fingers when its all said and done....

Wanted to say that obama vs west/smiley beef was wild.

Cause obama said nothing. But you had all these folks in the media doing the heavy lifting for him. Tom Joyner stopped fukking with west and kicked smiley off his show.

Steve Harvey of all people called west and smiley c00ns. You had the sista on MSNBC Melissa Perry (who is a mixed sista and has a white parent) writing pieces on West talking about how he pro-black and got a son by a white german woman.

Then any time someone in the media said something about West. He went even harder on obama. Man it was a shyt show..

If west was gonna talk bad about obama he had to go to democracy now, Al Jazeera or RT. Cause he wasn't gonne be able to spout that same rhetoric on MSNBC or CNN. One cause the networks didn't want the backlash and two Obama was a cash cow for them. Well until trump came around and now he is an even a bigger cash cow for them..

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Cornell West got froze out of the black community because he went out of his way to disparage the first black president because of some perceived slight over not getting free tickets to Obamas inauguration.

A lot of ppl turned on him and Tavis Smiley, two self important niccas that actually chartered a bus and went on a nationwide tour to talk trash about Obama, while coincidentally both these niccas been eerily quiet when it comes to Trump.

The black community did not freeze out West.... the white community did... and everything he said about Obama was accurate

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Leaders should always be called out for policy decisions and following up on campaign promises. What Dr. West was doing was deeply personal.

Truth is truth. It's not personal if he was right. And his criticism was valid and spot on in retrospect.