Does the large Caribbean presence in NYC's Hip Hop scene explain the disconnect with other regions?

[IllmaticDelta]

This used to bump at the jam

this too

 

[bouncy]

this too

Taking me back

I used to wear windbreaker suits, and do my dance moves. You couldn't tell me I wasn't the shyt

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

New York didn't make trunk rattling music???? The whole 80s New York Rap scene was nothing but 808. That's all it was about. Especially in Queens when they had The Showboys Drag Rap Triggerman sound going that New Orleans later took which helped create bounce music. There wouldn't even be a 808 in Hip Hop if it wasn't for New York producers.

Bruh you know as well as I do the difference between this and any of the west coast and southern examples I already posted. "Drag Rap" has a kick but it's not demanding your attention, the song doesn't even have a bass line.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Of course in most cases that would be true but In this case when you're Americanized and operating under another dominant culture/influence, whatever culture your parents came from, ceases to exist. In this case, Herc was playing Afam music, using Afram slang, Afram dressing styles etc...so that's why he didn't exude anything distinctly Jamaican in what he was doing.

his friends couldn't tell he was Jamaican...I wonder why?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

That's true, and you know what, Chicago nikkas reminded me NYC nikkas. It used to trip me out how we seemed to gel with each other, they just had more southern to their talk and more into gangs. Everywhere else, we were different. Still cool with each other, at least on my part, but still different.

You made me think of Commons "Resurrection" video. It's very NY

 

[Whogivesafuck]

What happen to the Mike Tyson Jamican flag photo?

 

[BigMan]

Nope. Nyc isn't disconnected from other north east cities with minuscule Caribbean populations like Philly. And the influence of those cultures isn't all that big, this ain't London or Totonto. Gs9 were West Indian and indistinguishable from kids from Bed stuy who are African american, same thing with Ricans from bush wick. Dominicans are pretty much the only ones who don't assimilate culturally. Nyc is just an alpha city different from 90% of the country.

The bold is bullshyt the rest I agree with

 

[Kanika]

The four elements of Hip Hop culture:
1. Deejaying
2. MC'ing
3. Graffiti art
4. Breakdancing

DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa, and Grandmaster Flash only contributed to Deejaying element of Hip Hop.

 

[Kanika]

The biggest lie in hip hop history is that rapping derived from Jamaican toasting. Rapping already existed in African American communties before Jamaicans immigranted to the United States. The Jamaican style of toasting is heavily influenced by African Americans.

 

[Kanika]

Question 1: Did Jamaicans influence and contributed to Hip Hop music?

Answer: Yes

Question 2: Did Jamaicans created hip hop music?

Answer: No

 

[Kanika]

I'm sorry, but reggae and dancehall music did NOT birth Hip Hop. If you listen to sugarhill records and enjoy records which produce the first hip hop songs. There is no Jamaican or Caribbean influence.

 

[Kanika]

DJ Kook Herc tried to play reggae music at his parties, but the people who attended his parties didn't want to listen to reggae music at that time, they wanted to listen to Disco, Funk, and Soul music.

 

[DreadBrown]

@Kanika why you going so hard?

The biggest lie in hip hop history is that rapping derived from Jamaican toasting. Rapping already existed in African American communties before Jamaicans immigranted to the United States. The Jamaican style of toasting is heavily influenced by African Americans.

This is total fukkery

The fact you keep saying toast shows you're on some revisionist shyt. How old are you?

Rapping and DEEJAYing both come from the mic man/selector dynamic. Dancehall and rap music are mirror images of each other.

 

[Danie84]

Just uppin the thread, cuz I'm blastin Barrington Levy the GAWD right now

 

[K.O.N.Y]

@Kanika why you going so hard?



This is total fukkery

The fact you keep saying toast shows you're on some revisionist shyt. How old are you?

Rapping and DEEJAYing both come from the mic man/selector dynamic. Dancehall and rap music are mirror images of each other.

nothing revisionist about what she said.

And dancehall wasnt around when hip hop was created. Hip hop is comparable to funk and disco not early 70's reggae