Does Lebron have sole claim to his own era?

[steph_harden]

LeQueen shares this era with Le Chef.

both with the amount of rings (if we counting the mickey mouse ring as a legit ring)

but the nba is built on the 3 ball now, i wonder who made it that way....

with that taken into account, who does the 2010s really belong too.....

Bronsexuals dont want to have that conversation though....

Might be more legit than those 2 KD rings

Bron has been the best player on every single one of his championship teams. The only other player you can say that about is Jordan..

 

[fifth column]

Isiah got hurt and only played 48 games in 1991. He averaged 13ppg on 40% shooting in the postseason and was clearly not himself. On top of that, Laimbeer was 34, Vinnie Johnson was 34, and James Edwards was 35. Mark Aguirre was just 31 but had already been declining for years. They were all way past their prime.

The next season, Isiah averaged just 13ppg on 33% shooting in the playoffs and the washed Pistons were eliminated by the Knicks in the 1st round. VJ retired when the season was over. Year after that they didn't even make the playoffs, and the following season Isiah, Laimbeer, and Aguirre all retired too.


Anyone who argues that the championships Pistons were still around for MJ's three-peat is a clown. That team was done done by injuries and age, they weren't a contender anymore.

The Bulls rose up and ended their chapter period. I actually watch the games which requires you to actually like basketball not just regurgitate talking points and stat nerd bs.

 

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Horace Grant played behind Charles Oakley his rookie year, who was a borderline All-Star. His second season Oakley left and 2nd-year Grant averaged 12 and 9 with strong defense, which was very good for a power forward in that era.

Pippen was a #5 draft pick the Bulls coveted and traded up to get. He was a solid all-around player by his 2nd season and an All-Star by his 3rd season.







Phil Jackson joined the Bulls just 7 years after he retired from the NBA, of which he had been coaching for five. During the five years of coaching before the Bulls, he won a CBA championship. So he had already proven he could coach. Rumor is he wasn't given an NBA job before the Bulls cause owners saw him as too much of a hippy/counterculture.

What was Pippen’s numbers his 2nd year? Was he even a starter? There’s only so much y’all can chatgpt before being forced to go back and watch the games. Most of the early 1984-1990 MJ Bulls games are easily accessible on YouTube so I don’t get why you always so wrong about shyt

 

[fifth column]

Might be more legit than those 2 KD rings

Bron has been the best player on every single one of his championship teams. The only other player you can say that about is Jordan..

I think AD was the best player on the 2020 bubble gum chip Lakers

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I think AD was the best player on the 2020 bubble gum chip Lakers

AD doesn't even think that.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The Bulls rose up and ended their chapter period. I actually watch the games which requires you to actually like basketball not just regurgitate talking points and stat nerd bs.

Jordan had nothing to do with Isiah getting hurt and missing half the 1991 season. Jordan had nothing to do with Isiah averaging just 8 and 7 on 35% shooting against the Celtics in the series BEFORE they faced the Bulls. Jordan had nothing to do with Laimbeer, Edwards, Aguirre, and Vinnie Johnson all aging out of the game. Jordan had nothing to do with the Pistons getting whipped by the Knicks in the first round the next year and never making the playoffs again.

You've proven yourself absolutely incapable of understanding anything other than the narrative you already believe. There is zero chance that you had a comprehensive enough understanding of basketball in 1991 to be able to interpret what was happening. So in retrospect, you went with the narrative.

What was Pippen’s numbers his 2nd year? Was he even a starter? There’s only so much y’all can chatgpt before being forced to go back and watch the games. Most of the early 1984-1990 MJ Bulls games are easily accessible on YouTube so I don’t get why you always so wrong about shyt

He averaged 14-6-4 on 48% shooting with elite defense. In other words, better than Kobe's 2000 Finals numbers. And how did you not know he was a starter? He was moved into the starting role in the playoffs during his ROOKIE season because he made the team better.

 

[catskill247]

Is the goal winning or winning on @Bop Gun's terms?

What's acceptable to YOU as a fan of the sport. Leave it up to the GM or create the spark on your own?

If they could, they would rather suck from their mothers' teet for nourishments instead of making there own food

 

[number21]

This recently past era dating 2011 to 2022 clearly belonged to Steph and Bron. Debating otherwise means you need to take off your rosed colored glasses.

 

[fifth column]

AD doesn't even think that.

What does the stats look like numbers guy

 

[fifth column]

Jordan had nothing to do with Isiah getting hurt and missing half the 1991 season. Jordan had nothing to do with Isiah averaging just 8 and 7 on 35% shooting against the Celtics in the series BEFORE they faced the Bulls. Jordan had nothing to do with Laimbeer, Edwards, Aguirre, and Vinnie Johnson all aging out of the game. Jordan had nothing to do with the Pistons getting whipped by the Knicks in the first round the next year and never making the playoffs again.

You've proven yourself absolutely incapable of understanding anything other than the narrative you already believe. There is zero chance that you had a comprehensive enough understanding of basketball in 1991 to be able to interpret what was happening. So in retrospect, you went with the narrative.





He averaged 14-6-4 on 48% shooting with elite defense. In other words, better than Kobe's 2000 Finals numbers. And how did you not know he was a starter? He was moved into the starting role in the playoffs during his ROOKIE season because he made the team better.

So the Championship Pistons aged out while MJ was 3-peating in his mid 30s? You over complicate and focus on irrelevant shyt on purpose, I call that a waste of time. The Bulls walked down the Pistons starting from 1988 and eventually swept them in 1991 and that was that. The gap between Kobe and Scottie is the same as Lebron and Andrew Wiggins, don’t do that.

 

[Greenhornet]

glad I saw you in the 2k thread and you decided to make this one

small kids are big mad


nikkas comparing Lebron to Gretzky is nuts... Gretzky has the most mind blowing career in all of professional sports history

media optics are so strong, that they persuaded most of this thread to believe commercials

 

[MoneyTron]

Shared.

Pretty easy argument that Steph is just as(if not more) successful in the latter half of the 2010's and 2020s.

There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[FlyRy]

I've already defined it upthread, it was 2006 (2006-07 season) thru 2020 (2019-20 season). 14 year run, where he won 4 MVPs, 4 championships, went to 10 Finals, was Top 5 MVP 13 of those years, made 14 All-NBA teams, 12x 1st Team in that window, 6x All-D (5x 1st), 2x DPOY runner-up, played in 11 conference finals going 10-1, won a scoring and an assist title 12 years apart, 2x AMVP in this window, was a 3x MVP runner-up in this window so realistically he could've won 7 MVPs...

Won 3 championships in 5 years on some dynasty shyt ('12, '13, '16); won 4 championships in 9 years on some dynasty shyt ('12, '13, '16, '20). And was the best player on his team for all 4 championships. The only other guy post-Jordan who won 4 rings as a #1 is Duncan, so over the course of the last 25 years, Bron and Duncan had the largest championship winning impact...

Post-Russell, only Bron, Duncan, and Mike won 4 or more titles as a a #1, that's going back 54 years with just 3 guys having the largest title winning impact...

Nobody has more of anything important in these 14 years. Not more championships or any of the other criteria I listed. He's literally #1 in every category but you swear he didnt have an era...

You advocated for Kobe upthread and Kobe doesn't have anything like this where he's #1 in everything...

In a 14-year run Bron was almost a guaranteed ticket, 10 Finals in 14 years and 11 conference finals. It was HIM every single year...

Powerful posting

 

[fifth column]

Powerful posting

What was powerful about that Propaganda from that Lebron sycophant? You wanna know what else happened in the “so called” Bron era 2007-2020, Duncan won 2 rings, KD won 2 rings, Kawhi won 2 rings, Kobe went to the finals 3 years in a row and won 2 rings, Kobe had to teach Bron and em how to win gold in Olympic games 2x, Steph won 4 rings and built a dynasty off Lebron’s back, Steph also changed the way the game is played in Bron’s era. What an era

 

[FlyRy]

What was powerful about that Propaganda from that Lebron sycophant? You wanna know what else happened in the “so called” Bron era 2007-2020, Duncan won 2 rings, KD won 2 rings, Kawhi won 2 rings, Kobe went to the finals 3 years in a row and won 2 rings, Kobe had to teach Bron and em how to win gold in Olympic games 2x, Steph won 4 rings and built a dynasty off Lebron’s back, Steph also changed the way the game is played in Bron’s era. What an era

Kobetards like to pretend Duncan doesn't have the same amount as rings as him.

During his "prime" where he "deserved" MVP he was missing the playoffs or getting bounced in the first round. Demanding a trade and whining in parking lots to anyone with a camera until he was gifted Gasol. Got lucky social media was in its infancy