Does Atheism Lead to Nihilism?

[MMS]

So you're saying the reason white people spread their empires was because of religion and not because they just wanted more power and used religion to justify expansion as needed.
When they tried their hands at communism which is completely godless and it's doctrine you had losers like linen and Stalin murdering and starving millions using it's for the greater good as justification. It really doesn't matter what the white man believes it's going to be used to kill somebody.

This is why I say atheism just leads to genocide. The black man will never attempt to build a society with atheism.

The meaning of life under atheism is power and control because that's all there is when you don't believe in a higher power

There is a strange irony in that last statement though

the belief in a higher power, makes people seek power...does it not? What if God did his work in the subtlest of ways rather than the most noticeable

 

[MMS]

I'm not jumping through hoops for anybody. Religious people and atheists tend to annoy me equally

Lenin and Stalin are two people. We just gonna conveniently ignore all the murders committed in the name of a higher power?

This is why I don't even do these debates because everyone is full of shyt and just banging a set

if you want to be real about it

the belief that abrahamic religions are responsible for the wars are actually wrong, its the religions that believe in the sacrifice of people (some pagan beliefs)

this is why the abrahamic God YHWH said to the Israelites to utterly destroy the Canaanites who practice those beliefs (Amalek, Amonites, Moabites etc etc). So in essence if you wish to avoid war and genocide the abrahamic God ironically is still your salvation a strange high dimensional pattern that is clear though

is that Ham is always set against his own son (Canaan)

 

[Fillerguy]

Off topic but what do y'all think about the Admiral Ackbar's Butthole Extravaganza! Come One, Come All! thread? It's really something isn't it?

Top 10 threads on this form. I'm dead serious.

 

[O.Red]

if you want to be real about it

the belief that abrahamic religions are responsible for the wars are actually wrong, its the religions that believe in the sacrifice of people (some pagan beliefs)

this is why the abrahamic God YHWH said to the Israelites to utterly destroy the Canaanites who practice those beliefs (Amalek, Amonites, Moabites etc etc). So in essence if you wish to avoid war and genocide the abrahamic God ironically is still your salvation a strange high dimensional pattern that is clear though

is that Ham is always set against his own son (Canaan)

If you got links send em

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's up to you to find purpose in your life.

I personally think there isn't one since "life" is really just chemistry and we find ways to reduce suffering through rules and a set of order to facilitate expectations and predictability around "life's" preference to keep living despite aging and death.

 

[MMS]

If you got links send em

i got you ...

Gospel Reading - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Orthodox Church

www.goarch.org

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

i got you ...

Gospel Reading - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America - Orthodox Church

www.goarch.org

you're just adding your favorite version of a lie, isn't validating the lie.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Existential Nihilism is basically the idea that there isn't objective value or purpose to life. Both Kanye West and Rosa Parks will have the same fate. We are basically preprogrammed meat automatons born into a messed up world with no hope. Anything that anybody has ever worked for would already be pointless because the end of the world will happen in finite time and nothing ever produced will endure... no kindness, generosity, or evil will ever make a permanent mark.

It's a really bleak picture and there's no way to change that.

well, yeah.

 

[MMS]

It's up to you to find purpose in your life.

I personally think there isn't one since "life" is really just chemistry and we find ways to reduce suffering through rules and a set of order to facilitate expectations and predictability around "life's" preference to keep living despite aging and death.

but what if the chemistry we perceive isnt what it is, and our ways are the path to aging and death?

once again, Moses received the law at Sinai (rules) and Jesus suffered to teach Gentiles whos normal way is to eat whatever they come upon (following their chemistry/body)

you say that everything is to reduce suffering but what place is man to decide that? Drugs produced to fix problems that society creates, overeating to satiate feelings instead of nourishment, pornography to replace intimacy, entertainment to replace family interaction

etc etc, its all separations of whats natural

 

[MMS]

you're just adding your favorite version of a lie, isn't validating the lie.

and what lie is that? Are you not doing that right now?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

but what if the chemistry we perceive isnt what it is, and our ways are the path to aging and death?

once again, Moses received the law at Sinai (rules) and Jesus suffered to teach Gentiles whos normal way is to eat whatever they come upon (following their chemistry/body)

you say that everything is to reduce suffering but what place is man to decide that? Drugs produced to fix problems that society creates, overeating to satiate feelings instead of nourishment, pornography to replace intimacy, entertainment to replace family interaction

etc etc, its all separations of whats natural

"what if"

Don't do that.

If you don't know, just say that.

If you flunked those classes, just say that.

I'm talking about what we can prove and anything beyond that is just you trying to fill in the blanks of a smaller hole.

 

[BaggerofTea]

It's up to you to find purpose in your life.

I personally think there isn't one since "life" is really just chemistry and we find ways to reduce suffering through rules and a set of order to facilitate expectations and predictability around "life's" preference to keep living despite aging and death.

Its such a weird debate, people want a "god" to give them order and direction in life when reality is simply not so.

Based off of the gifts we were endowed with, its up to us to provide definition to our existence.

laws and religion are just human interpretations of the world around us

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Its such a weird debate, people want a "god" to give them order and direction in life when reality is simply not so.

Based off of the gifts we were endowed with, its up to us to provide definition to our existence.

laws and religion are just human interpretations of the world around us

saying "I don't know" are the three most difficult words these people have to deal with

Ambiguity is something that makes them uncomfortable.

Everything just "god did it" until we have a better answer.

Its embarrassing.

 

[Gritsngravy]

But truthfully does it really matter if you believe or not
Life is what you make it, if you think there is no meaning cool if you think there is meaning that’s cool too
Nobody got the answers so just live life to the fullest, try to make a utopia in your world
And just cause you may not believe doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate the philosophy of different religions, you might discover something that makes you a more evolved person

 

[Ganso Bomb]

Crazy how people knee deep in cac religious ideologies want to speak on atheism.

Crazy how you just wanna take a dig at my beliefs(originating from the Middle East and East Africa btw) instead of answering an honest question, which was the point of this entire thread. Are you a nihilist? If not,what purpose does life have outside of Survival and reproduction?

You're assuming that value and purpose are dependent upon a deity's existence. Their are a number of non- Western religions and philosophies were this isn't the case. Socrates famously asked can morality exist if the gods ceases to exist....we are still asking this questioning over 2000 years later.

Do you have an answer? Mine is no and I've never heard of any atheistic belief or philosophy with an objective morality outside what humans can collectively agree is beneficial for society; and even that's still liable to change over time.



OP's premise was that Nihilism is the logical conclusion to being an atheist and pretty much every post since has proven him correct. In my first post I asked if there's any atheists here that believe in an objective meaning/purpose for life outside of Survival & Reproduction and pretty much every post I've seen since confirms the answer if no.

OP is rightt and we all agree with him, so why is there so much arguing?