Does Atheism Lead to Nihilism?

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I don't believe in any deity and by definition I am a nihilist :manny:

There ain't a universal purpose in life man has to follow, you make your own

Wanna know why you're here? Your ol boy ain't pull out and your ol girl ain't bring out the coat hanger
is this how you view your own father? or were you witness to someone elses conception?
 

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It's up to you to find purpose in your life.

I personally think there isn't one since "life" is really just chemistry and we find ways to reduce suffering through rules and a set of order to facilitate expectations and predictability around "life's" preference to keep living despite aging and death.

But what would the point? Any purpose you find would be temporary because you are going to die.
 

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I don't believe in any deity and by definition I am a nihilist :manny:

There ain't a universal purpose in life man has to follow, you make your own

Wanna know why you're here? Your ol boy ain't pull out and your ol girl ain't bring out the coat hanger

I think people that say "make your own purpose" live the kind of lives where they don't have to worry about getting their legs blown off or starving to death.
 

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is this how you view your own father? or were you witness to someone elses conception?
He wouldn't be my father otherwise, now would he? :skip:

I think people that say "make your own purpose" live the kind of lives where they don't have to worry about getting their legs blown off or starving to death.
That would seem to be most people posting here
 

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So best case scenario: the reason religion is a net positive on society is because they hold ancient, divine truths and the God that made us did so with a purpose; I personally believe to overcome our carnal nature and reflect his glory on Earth.(Kind of similar to the Fallen angel meets ape thing in the excerpt you shared. I like that.)

Or worst case scenario: we have to make up lies and trick ourselves into believing them to prevent our inevitable self-destruction...that's bleak as fukk:russ:



This whole discussion makes me wanna read Ecclesiastes
:manny: its matter of perspective. Godless or not, if both line of thinking yield the same results, why worry about details or motivations.

Most ppl want to avoid a miserable existence so I would think that delaying the inevitable, non-existence/ Oblivion, is the closet thing to "good" one could do in a universe w/o inherent value.

Such a struggles should invoke feelings of happiness in the one who struggles...And we know this to be true...struggling against death is a mainstay of any all Human cultures and religions. Most of stories (vehicles historically used to spread and reinforce our invented morals) are based on this concept. Then theres ppl who talk about "feeling alive" after near death experiences, I know I have. Staving death reaffirms life.

That doesn't sound bleak to me but I can see why you would say that.



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I think people that say "make your own purpose" live the kind of lives where they don't have to worry about getting their legs blown off or starving to death.
Agreed. My biggest issues with nihilism philosophy and general is that ppl like Nietzsche answer questions that only spoiled first world ppl ask. Meanwhile, religion constantly reforms itself to be more approachable to the common man. Early Christianity is the best example of this. It spread among the lower class and outcast Romans and took over the part of the would in less than 200 years
 

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Agreed. My biggest issues with nihilism philosophy and general is that ppl like Nietzsche answer questions that only spoiled first world ppl ask. Meanwhile, religion constantly reforms itself to be more approachable to the common man. Early Christianity is the best example of this. It spread among the lower class and outcast Romans and took over the part of the would in less than 200 years
To this day, nobody has ever given us a solution to nihilism. Nietzsche tried with the Übermensch and there are other philosophies that have tried, but people still suffer from nihilism.
 

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i think this topic is boring and corny



i went from christian to atheist to agnostic



let people believe what they want, people trying to shame atheists are just as bad as annoying ass bill maher/sam harris atheists always looking to debate with/shame religious people.
at the end of the day, no one really knows. If it keeps you from doing harm, have at it.
 
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