Does Atheism Lead to Nihilism?

[Fillerguy]

Positive nihilism is a coping mechanism, same for Absurdism. Camus was the master of juelzing.

Of course it is, that's the point. But you say it as if its a negative. The other option is suicide, philosophical (religion) or self determination.

 

[Fillerguy]

If God doesn't exist, by definition life cannot have an objective purpose. Morality would have no grounding, and if modern science is right, at some point in the finite future all human accomplishment will be destroyed. Hard to find any meaning, purpose, value, anything in an atheistic world.

If we take atheism to also include physicalism and naturalism, there also basically wouldn't be free will, meaning that we are here in no way by our choice, and that the end results of our lives are predetermined by biology.

You're assuming that value and purpose are dependent upon a deity's existence. Their are a number of non- Western religions and philosophies were this isn't the case. Socrates famously asked can morality exist if the gods ceases to exist....we are still asking this questioning over 2000 years later.

 

[JasoRockStar]

It can if you don't find purpose in what you're doing. I don't care what people say, that "humans are insignificant, we all don't matter" approach is a road that will only lead to depression and cynicism.

 

[Spiider]

It can if you don't find purpose in what you're doing. I don't care what people say, that "humans are insignificant, we all don't matter" approach is a road that will only lead to depression and cynicism.

I see it as more uplifting. It means that you’re free to do whatever you want because the purpose and value of your life is completely up to you

 

[bnew]

No, there haven't.

In fact, there has been more war and oppression in recorded history trying to get rid of religion.​

who do you think was majorly responsible for trying to get rid religions by killing believers?

people of an entirely different faith opposed to practice of other religions.

is was either you get down or laydown, same shyt they're doing in majority muslim countries right now.

 

[Mowgli]

Most genocides throughout history were done in the name of a god

So you're saying the reason white people spread their empires was because of religion and not because they just wanted more power and used religion to justify expansion as needed.
When they tried their hands at communism which is completely godless in it's doctrine you had losers like linen and Stalin murdering and starving millions using it's for the greater good as justification. It really doesn't matter what the white man believes it's going to be used to kill somebody.

This is why I say atheism just leads to genocide. The black man will never attempt to build a society with atheism.

The meaning of life under atheism is power and control because that's all there is when you don't believe in a higher power

 

[Black Hans]

Nihilism is the logical conclusion of atheism.

 

[inndaskKy]

Off topic but what do y'all think about the Admiral Ackbar's Butthole Extravaganza! Come One, Come All! thread? It's really something isn't it?

 

[BaldingSoHard]

I'm an atheist and nihilsm seems pretty logical to me so yea.

 

[O.Red]

So you're saying the reason white people spread their empires was because of religion and not because they just wanted more power and used religion to justify expansion as needed.
When they tried their hands at communism which is completely godless and it's doctrine you had losers like linen and Stalin murdering and starving millions using it's for the greater good as justification. It really doesn't matter what the white man believes it's going to be used to kill somebody.

This is why I say atheism just leads to genocide. The black man will never attempt to build a society with atheism.

The meaning of life under atheism is power and control because that's all there is when you don't believe in a higher power

Thats bordering on moving the goalposts because power and religious ubiquity go hand in hand

There are people that think they are chosen by their God to bring freedom, salvation, whatever. Those people are sometimes charismatic enough to get others to kill for them in the name of their God. If they're good enough at the killing they'll eventually start expanding their faith campaigns

You can invoke "well they don't really mean it. They're fake religious" but who are you to make that determination?

What are holy wars? What makes nikkas fight for 1000 years? "My God is true and your God is false. If those ain't power plays what the fukk is?

Also to make a blanket assumption like "The meaning of life under atheism is power and control because that's all there is when you don't believe in a higher power" is pretty presumptuous of you. To speak with that much authority about something denotes a sense of superiority, something that could only be invoked from a person that feels powerful. How can you determine the meaning of someone else's life? With such confidence?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

who do you think was majorly responsible for trying to get rid religions by killing believers?

 

[Mowgli]

Thats bordering on moving the goalposts because power and religious ubiquity go hand in hand

There are people that think they are chosen by their God to bring freedom, salvation, whatever. Those people are sometimes charismatic enough to get others to kill for them in the name of their God. If they're good enough at the killing they'll eventually start expanding their faith campaigns

You can invoke "well they don't really mean it. They're fake religious" but who are you to make that determination?

What are holy wars? What makes nikkas fight for 1000 years? "My God is true and your God is false. If those ain't power plays what the fukk is?

Also to make a blanket assumption like "The meaning of life under atheism is power and control because that's all there is when you don't believe in a higher power" is pretty presumptuous of you. To speak with that much authority about something denotes a sense of superiority, something that could only be invoked from a person that feels powerful. How can you determine the meaning of someone else's life? With such confidence?

In modern times atheists in power have only committed genocide so there's no need for you to jump through hoops to make excuses for them. The legacy of Lenin and Stalin have been tragic for the world

 

[O.Red]

In modern times atheists in power have only committed genocide so there's no need for you to jump through hoops to make excuses for them. The legacy of Lenin and Stalin have been tragic for the world

I'm not jumping through hoops for anybody. Religious people and atheists tend to annoy me equally

Lenin and Stalin are two people. We just gonna conveniently ignore all the murders committed in the name of a higher power?

This is why I don't even do these debates because everyone is full of shyt and just banging a set

 

[Mowgli]

I'm not jumping through hoops for anybody. Religious people and atheists tend to annoy me equally

Lenin and Stalin are two people. We just gonna conveniently ignore all the murders committed in the name of a higher power?

This is why I don't even do these debates because everyone is full of shyt and just banging a set.

Ok then stop debating. The whole debate is whatabout ism anyway.

Atheism leads to genocide and control as a way of life for the few over the many

People like you come around and say but what about religion. Why even say that.

Has nothing to do with the topic. Just you, banging a set. Get rekt.

 

[O.Red]

Ok then stop debating. The whole debate is whatabout ism anyway.

Atheism leads to genocide and control as a way of life for the few over the many

People like you come around and say but what about religion. Why even say that.

Has nothing to do with the topic. Just you, banging a set. Get rekt.

I'm not banging anything I said fukk religion and atheism

My initial response was about you using power as a pejorative while simultaneously trying to speak as a powerful person