Does Anyone Here Actually Care What Russia Does To Ukraine?

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geopolitics and it's ramifications eludes a lot of people. let russia take control of all of ukraine the breadbasket of the world and watch them and OPEC+ hold the world hostage, food shortages to further russian policy goals. massive immigration waves to escape it. even higher food and energy prices everywhere else. if you care about food and oil prices, ukraine developing it's oil & gas fields even further will get the hundreds of billions from europe that russia use to get. ukraine ain't gonna lay nicely with OPEC in that scenario either which would be great for gas prices.
100%.

Everyone's way of life would literally change in the next 5 years. And for what's worth, because I know someone is gonna bring it up if they haven't already...Africa still gets fukked over.
 

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Correct, Hitler was not Hitler. He was just a broke dictator trying to reorganize the country. He invaded the Rhineland starting in 1936 which not only gave him resources, but position in his March across Europe. Much like Ukraine is the only year-round access to the Mediterranean and the broader Atlantic for much of their Navy. EVERY OTHER sea port freezes for part of the year. This whole war is a play not to just rebuild the USSR, but to reclaim the entire Russian Federation.

US tried to stay out of WW2 and just give supplies to allies; and there were calls NOT to even do that by many of the politicians of the day. Eventually a line was crossed and they had to cock block oil exports into Japan. Subsequently Japan attacked pearl harbor, and there we go.

We don't stop Russia from Ukraine, Russia doubles back, gets the sanctions lifted or reduced, they go after Moldova. This would be the 4th time in less than 20 years they done this shyt. China says fukk it, Russia is going after their old territory, we're going after Taiwan and later the Philippines. US says fukk Taiwan like that idiot Ramaswamy and numerous other Republicans have said. Eventually other countries stop fukking with the US. Japan and Korea strap up. Germany straps up. UK if they get their head out their ass straps up. Sweden, Finland and Poland are already READY to fukking go right now. Japan and SK are big sleepers when it comes to this war shyt, they are literally just waiting for the okay's from their governments to ramp up, they have decent military technology as it is.

It turns into one giant nuclear powder keg, that the US...for all of our bullshyt, had relative control over. We would've had a nuclear war back in the 60s with or without a Cuban Missile crisis if there was no US Marshall Plan.

Its a bitter pill to swallow, but giving aid to Ukraine is hopefully death by 1000 cuts to the current Russian regime and disincentivizes China from getting any goofy plans until Xi is replaced.

russia has already made the world a lot less safe since numerous countries are increasing their defense budget because of this war. if they're allowed to take ukraine, every country will be incentivized to seek nuclear weapons or develop a devastating equivalent.
 
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I don't "care" either way actually. Cause of any of us good Brehs travel to Ukraine right now and offer to fight, you will get called a niqqer the first day.

So overall, fukc them. I think the Nazi shyt is real with them.

Putin gonna treat Ukraine like US would treat Mexico if they started cozying up to America's enemies.

Right?

But. Helping these crazy CACs fight against Putin is absolutely in our best interests. Russia ground game done got EXPOSED. They could never fukc with any serious army. Israel. US of course. China. Even India got the raw troops to eat their lunch.

So it's good. It's kinda dope that these particular CACs are the ones to get into it with Putin. Cause they fukcing relentless. They seem to be into the shyt low key. That combined with US weapons is blacking Russia's eyes, boxing her ears, swelling her lips, and busting her nose.

And guess why these MAGAts so serious about stopping the aid. Cause Trump is in Putin's pocket. And Trump is telling the MAGAts what to do. Not even on the low. BIG LEAGUE
 

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100%.

Everyone's way of life would literally change in the next 5 years. And for what's worth, because I know someone is gonna bring it up if they haven't already...Africa still gets fukked over.

africa is getting fukked over now with grain shipments from ukraine being threatened in the black sea by russia. india got rice exports limits too now.
 
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russia has already made the world a lot less safe since numerous countries are increasing their defense budget because of this war. if they're allowed to take ukraine, every country will be incentive to seek nuclear weapons or develop a devastating equivalent.
Like literally Ukraine GAVE UP their nukes for a promise never to invade. EVERY country with a nuclear power plant now is going to do the relatively easy trick by nuclear engineering standards to enrich U235 to U238 and start tooling up.

fukking moron made the whole world less safe. And Trump would hand Ukraine over day 1 if and when he gets back in office, because the jackass wants to run the US the same way.
 

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All the fearmongering you hear regarding Russia, is actually projections by US. We just describe ourselves, but point fingers at others. Look what the US did to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and Syria. We have been funding coups and rebels throughout South America for over 5 decades. Then we complain when the refugees of those countries come crying at out border. The US just seized 1 million barrels of oil from Iran headed to China. Americans are so propagandized, its ridiculous.
 

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Like literally Ukraine GAVE UP their nukes for a promise never to invade. EVERY country with a nuclear power plant now is going to do the relatively easy trick by nuclear engineering standards to enrich U235 to U238 and start tooling up.

fukking moron made the whole world less safe. And Trump would hand Ukraine over day 1 if and when he gets back in office, because the jackass wants to run the US the same way.

russia will have a very militarized Ukraine on their borders for a long ass time. bet they wish all they had to worry about were missile shields. now they might end up two NATO countries on their borders since Finland joined during this war.



Zelensky: 'Never again will Ukraine pay with its sovereignty for illusory promises of peace'​

by Natalia Datskevych

October 1, 2023 9:30 PM2 min read

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President Volodymyr Zelensky speaks during a ceremony marking the Defenders Day on Oct. 1, 2023, in Kyiv. (www.president.gov.ua)

President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Oct. 1, when Ukraine marks the Defenders Day, a public holiday honoring veterans and fallen soldiers, that the country will never again “pay with the future of its children, its sovereignty and its will for illusory promises of peace.”

“Ukraine has made historical conclusions,” Zelensky said.

In 1994, three years after gaining independence, Ukraine, which had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world and included more than 5,000 strategic and tactical weapons,signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) and the Budapest Memorandum.

The country expected extended security assurance in return for moving warheads to Russia, which 20 years later would brutally violate memorandum and invade Ukraine.
“Our unity must enable us to go all the way to drive the occupier out of our land. And it will,” Zelensky said. “Courage, resilience, and unity are the things we must not lose in order not to lose Ukraine.”

As of the beginning of August, 12 countries – Belgium, Denmark, Ireland, Iceland, Spain, Norway, the Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Finland, the Czech Republic, and Sweden – have already joined the G7's joint declaration on security guarantees for Ukraine.

The guarantees, including addressing issues of sanctions, financial assistance and post-war reconstruction, are expected to strengthen Ukraine's ability to resist Russian aggression.
 
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:jbhmm:Can I leave this planet and live elsewhere? If the answer is no, and I know a buncha yall don't give a shyt, but I don't want to be around if it becomes en vogue for strongman countries to start stomping out Democracies. There seems to be a buncha weirdo ass fools on here who think protecting an ideal (democracy) isn't worth doing like we can't immediately end up in a situation where we are subjugated in a way that makes our elders hit the :huhldup:

Russia taking a democracy isn't good for Democracies. Just like ya'll might be like "fukk Taiwan" where if China took them, its a dub to the rest of the world who need semiconductors to function. I know its a lot of slow cats on here, but its "Bigger than Nino Brown." We have issues that need to be addressed, but "fukk cacs" can only be applied so many ways before the retardation creeps through.
unless any country does some type of pearl harbor attack, amerca wont be contributing any ground troops
too old and divided
 

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unless any country does some type of pearl harbor attack, amerca wont be contributing any ground troops
too old and divided
Of course, and that is for the best about ground troops. The game is different and that should be off the table in 99.999999% of circumstances.
 
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