Do u see us different than animals?

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Another thing I would like to add is that Humans have no basis for judging "animal" morality. We experience communication, movement, thinking, eating, mating, survival, sensing vastly different. Any attempt to do so risk anthropomorphizing them. Only the Great Apes seem to respond well to mimicking Humans but we're in the same Genus, we relate in most of the areas I've mentioned. Theres no accurate way to judge an animal's morality, ethnics, emotions, etc. Its even fukking difficult to compare the moral/culture standards between ppl from Hardyville, KY with those from a random small Japanese village.
 

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We are far beyond chimps. Creation of highly complex music, art, rockets to be able to explore other planets, intricate philosophies, creating a worldwide network of communication, airplanes, cars and other forms of travel that have made it possible to reach places that would have been otherwise impossible, and unfortunately, we've also gained the ability to destroy the world through nuclear weapons.

I admit only our species has the brain capacity to create such things on this planet and only we could become this comfortable. But you're ignoring how fukked up humans are too.
 

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That's why I put us in a different category than animals. We have the ability to create and to destroy in a capacity far beyond that of animals. We can create grand societies and we can now destroy them in the blink of an eye. We are no longer even tethered to this planet with expeditions to the moon. If civilization lasts for 200 years, we may even start having civilizations on other planets.
 

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We are far beyond chimps. Creation of highly complex music, art, rockets to be able to explore other planets, intricate philosophies, creating a worldwide network of communication, airplanes, cars and other forms of travel that have made it possible to reach places that would have been otherwise impossible, and unfortunately, we've also gained the ability to destroy the world through nuclear weapons.
That ain't the question. Technically we are animals and that's not even debatable. We are an organism that developed through evolution just like a everything else, exist on the primate branch of the tree of life and have a taxonomic classification (homo sapiens) just like everything else.

But for semantics sake, it seems you're saying we're not animals because we are advanced far beyond other animals in terms of intelligence capacity, and the things we can manifest through that intelligence capacity. (I would argue that intelligence capacity doesn't necessarily make an organism more "advanced" much less transcend the animal kingdom and your argument is based on speciest hubris, but never mind).

But let's take your premise. I'm asking is the gap between our intellegience capacity and a chimpanzee greater than the gap between the intelligence capacity of a chimpanzee and a sponge. I'd say no.

Our brains are much more developed than a chimpanzee's brain. We can perform mental tasks far beyond that of a chimpanzee. But they are capable of a high level of cognition beyond just stimulus response and they have emotional capacity. They conscious, social creatures. They exhibit altruism and kinship. They can use tools...ladders, straws, they even sharpen wood and make spears They can figure out mazes and problems and even math in a limited capacity. And they share 95% of our DNA.

Let's look at a human brain compared to a chimpanzee brain.

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Now let's look at a sponge's brain....wait, they don't have a brain. They don't even have tissue or organs. They just digest bacteria and other organic particles in the water and reproduce asexually.

Even using the arbitary criteria you came up with to define animals, your argument falls short.
 

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We are far beyond chimps. Creation of highly complex music, art, rockets to be able to explore other planets, intricate philosophies, creating a worldwide network of communication, airplanes, cars and other forms of travel that have made it possible to reach places that would have been otherwise impossible, and unfortunately, we've also gained the ability to destroy the world through nuclear weapons.

:beli: Is this beyond shyt supposed to mean something. Your post about the 21 Century man could be used in an argument saying the 21th century BC man isnt Human.
 

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The word animal is not a slur. An animal is a biological classification.

Some of you religious dudes get too caught up in that.

It's like calling you a carbon based being, or a collection of cells. I can also call you matter. These are just types of classification.

Your question should be:

Why are we different than other animals?
 

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:beli: Is this beyond shyt supposed to mean something. Your post about the 21 Century man could be used in an argument saying the 21th century BC man isnt Human.

Uh yeah, it means something. Do animals have the CAPABILITY to create an iota of what humankind has created? We share a lot of the same physiology as animals but our capability is FAR beyond anything animals have done. To deny this is ridiculous. Why have humans progressed so rapidly and yet animals are doing the SAME thing as they always have? Even ancient man has shown PROGRESSION from civilization to civilization. Animals are still locked into their immediate environment.
 

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Uh yeah, it means something. Do animals have the CAPABILITY to create an iota of what humankind has created?
We share a lot of the same physiology as animals but our capability is FAR beyond anything animals have done. To deny this is ridiculous.

A jellyfish doesn't have one iota of the capability of a dolphin. To deny this is ridiculous.

You're just drawing an arbitrary line and saying what's beyond that arbitrary line transcends animalia. Hubris and semantics.

Why have humans progressed so rapidly and yet animals are doing the SAME thing as they always have? Even ancient man has shown PROGRESSION from civilization to civilization. Animals are still locked into their immediate environment.
Humans are still doing the same shyt they were 200,000 years ago: metabolizing and reproducing. Just a like any bacteria.
 

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Your question should be:

Why are we different than other animals?

The answer to this question is actually part of the answer to the first question- how we are different than animals.

Y do you believe we are different.... or why did we evolve to this level that is so far beyond other organisms that you can't even really compare it? Especially when other organisms have also been developing for millions of years... I mean even past homo species where very advanced beyond animal thought and consciousness? That gap between the mind of an ape or chimp and that of a human is a effin huge jump in evolution.

Did our intelligence evolve simply as a mean to survive? If so, why didn't other mammals develop anything close to our intelligence over millions of years?

Our was it our nutrition and luck?

I'm curious to know what you all believe, because I just know that we are different, not why.

However, I do know how it all started.
 

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Humans are still doing the same shyt they were 200,000 years ago: metabolizing and reproducing. Just a like any bacteria.

:leostare:

So 200,000 years ago humans were analyzing the minds of humans and migration patterns of African Elephants? We send bacteria to other parts of the universe to test 'their' reactions... but we are doing the same shyt 'just' like them. :rudy:
 

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So 200,000 years ago humans were analyzing the minds of humans and migration patterns of African Elephants? We send bacteria to other parts of the universe to test 'their' reactions... but we are doing the same shyt 'just' like them. :rudy:

Yup, we are. At a core level, we just want to live comfortable, avoid stress, and pass on our DNA to the next generation just like every other living creature.

I don't know what citing human accomplishments is supposed to prove. What, we've done so many impressive things, that we now transcend the animal kingdom? :beli: That's just arrogance.

If there's a magnetic pole reversal, an asteroid impact, or any more of several possible extinction level events, we'll be done in minutes. All that art and technology won't mean shyt. And the cockroaches and bacteria will still be standing.
 

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The answer to this question is actually part of the answer to the first question- how we are different than animals.

Y do you believe we are different.... or why did we evolve to this level that is so far beyond other organisms that you can't even really compare it? Especially when other organisms have also been developing for millions of years... I mean even past homo species where very advanced beyond animal thought and consciousness? That gap between the mind of an ape or chimp and that of a human is a effin huge jump in evolution.

Did our intelligence evolve simply as a mean to survive? If so, why didn't other mammals develop anything close to our intelligence over millions of years?

Our was it our nutrition and luck?

I'm curious to know what you all believe, because I just know that we are different, not why.

However, I do know how it all started.

Blackking, I've had this discussion about the "Why" many times, at school and other boards. I don't do it here on this forum.

You don't care about the answer, you just care about your religious agenda and text. You don't seek knowledge, you seek an opportunity to proselytize.
 

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Blackking, I've had this discussion about the "Why" many times, at school and other boards. I don't do it here on this forum.

You don't care about the answer, you just care about your religious agenda and text. You don't seek knowledge, you seek an opportunity to proselytize.

I just care about religious agenda and text? I guess I've really demonstrated that by not bring up religious agenda and text :usure:


You asked why, and I then asked related questions then asked..... do you know why. I believe a simple, "I don't have a fckin clue, just spoke on the subject to wait for an opportunity to talk sh1t like a lil b1tch" would have been a more appropriate response.

btw you grammaton cleric style mf's actually think you say profound sh1t. It's funny to me.
 

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Yup, we are. At a core level, we just want to live comfortable, avoid stress, and pass on our DNA to the next generation just like every other living creature.

I don't know what citing human accomplishments is supposed to prove. What, we've done so many impressive things, that we now transcend the animal kingdom? :beli: That's just arrogance.

If there's a magnetic pole reversal, an asteroid impact, or any more of several possible extinction level events, we'll be done in minutes. All that art and technology won't mean shyt. And the cockroaches and bacteria will still be standing.

What animals have living a comfortable life on their agenda? Or .. creating music or saving endangered species.

I don't cite those things as accomplishments. I cite them as distinctions. On What planet is stating facts and differences between organisms considered arrogance?...
oh yea I forgot, this is HL where human innovation and ideas don't mean a damn thing, simply because a random happenstance-ass asteroid AG5 from o space hits Earths surface .. and but is actually the one that ends life on Earth- this means that technology doesn't mean sh1t. It's not guaranteed that Cockroaches would survive either.. but again, this is irrelevant.
 
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