Do u see us different than animals?

[Soymuscle Mike]

in what why should we measure importance? From our human perceptions and perspective I would assume that if a being from another planet came to Earth, they may select Homo Sapiens as the most important being here from their perceptions.. especially since we would be the only organisms attempting to make contact with or even be aware that they have came from a place other than Earth.

I'm signing out, this is a silly conversation. Are we different than animals...

Or maybe they won't be interested in other animals trying to reach out to them? Perhaps they'll take it as a sign of weakness/inferiority? Most animals will go on living their lives trying to bust some nuts and eat while we'll be spending all our time worrying about and focusing on these animals?

This is exactly my point, we're not more important - we're just different and we've become a different kind of apes. Animals from other planets will be different perhaps looking for different things.

 

[Bud Bundy]

genetic lottery. So it makes prefect since to explain our differences as we won the genetic lottery... That after millions of years we are the only organism on Earth that has our abilities... And the lottery is why no other organism even comes close?

It's weird to me when some people downplay human intelligence as just some random trait that isn't a significant difference between us an animals.

Animals live and die off basic instinct. We use our instincts, but we also are so aware of our health and immanent death that we try to prevent it and prolong life. The fact that we appreciate the complexities and beauty of the world and continuously explore Earth, as opposed to just existing in it, is a major difference.

Animals can recognize themselves and are aware of their own instinctual needs and existence.. however, we are aware of how we interact with this world, think about our existence, death, and analyze our situation to see how we can change our position in life.


We aren't Just animals. The reasons are endless. One is morality.
Only Humans Have Morality, Not Animals | Psychology Today
"As I argue in Just Another Ape?: ‘It is this unique ability to copy complex actions and strategies (even those that the individual doing the copying would never have been able to come up with on their own), along with unique forms of cooperation and an ability to teach, that creates the uniquely powerful "ratchet effect" in human culture, whereby gains are consolidated and built on rather than having to be rediscovered.'

There are very many unanswered questions regarding how and why our human genetic make-up evolved. But even if we did have all the answers, we would not - as a result of these insights - be able to explain why we behave the way we do today, or the ethical codes by which we currently live. The evolution of the human genetic make-up is merely the precondition or the emergence of distinctly human cultural abilities. We need to look to cultural evolution, rather than genetic evolution, to explain the vast gulf that exists between the capabilities and achievements of humans and those of other animals.

Human beings are not perfect and never will be, but we are special and unique among the animal kingdom. We are capable of making judgements about our own and other people's behaviour, and have the capacity consciously to change the way we behave and society as whole."

you are making a big deal but we have no idea how intelligent dinosaurs or other lifeforms before humans were. This planet has been around millions of years you think we are the first intelligent race.

 

[Blackking]

Or maybe they won't be interested in other animals trying to reach out to them? Perhaps they'll take it as a sign of weakness/inferiority? Most animals will go on living their lives trying to bust some nuts and eat while we'll be spending all our time worrying about and focusing on these animals?

This is exactly my point, we're not more important - we're just different and we've become a different kind of apes. Animals from other planets will be different perhaps looking for different things.

IF we aren't more important, then how do you define important? You can't say we aren't more important; because if homo sapiens aren't more important than chimps and frogs, then there is virtually no such thing as being more important.

We are the ONLY organism on Earth that does much of what we can do. Important means- marked by or indicative of significant worth. Our complex thinking ability, manipulation of the Earth and it's organisms, and our subconscious thoughts, to me are more important than an organism going about it's life due to their natural extinct telling them to bust nuts.

 

[BasketCase]

Define animal. Define important. If you say we're not animals because of our intelligence, do you consider smart people more human than dumb people? Define intelligence. If you go by IQ, how high of an IQ does a creature need to not be considered an animal? And what if a woman gives birth to a child who has an IQ lower than required to be considered human? Is this child an animal?

And what's wrong with being an animal? Why care about labels? A label is just a word. It's what the label represents that's important.

 

[Blackking]

you are making a big deal but we have no idea how intelligent dinosaurs or other lifeforms before humans were. This planet has been around millions of years you think we are the first intelligent race.

I'm not sure if we are the first intelligent race on Earth; but I only stated what was different between us and other animals. That fact that not all of our motivations are strictly determined by basic instinct and we analyst and debate things such as this, seem significant to me.


I wonder what's behind some peoples propensity to want to down play their own species... and forcibly say we are nothing but apes or whatever. Just because we are mammals and primates doesn't mean that we are Just animals.

 

[Bud Bundy]

I'm not sure if we are the first intelligent race on Earth; but I only stated what was different between us and other animals. That fact that not all of our motivations are strictly determined by basic instinct and we analyst and debate things such as this, seem significant to me.


I wonder what's behind some peoples propensity to want to down play their own species... and forcibly say we are nothing but apes or whatever. Just because we are mammals and primates doesn't mean that we are Just animals.

it is because that humility keeps us in check and stops some of us from doing dangerous things to other animals, ourselves and our environment. Why you think people came up with god?

 

[Blackking]

Define animal. Define important. If you say we're not animals because of our intelligence, do you consider smart people more human than dumb people? Define intelligence. If you go by IQ, how high of an IQ do you need to not be considered an animal? And what if a woman gives birth to a child who has an IQ lower than required to be considered human? Is this child an animal?

And what's wrong with being an animal? Why care about labels? A label is just a word. It's what the label represents that's important.

nothings wrong with an animal. In everyday colloquial usage, the word often refers to non-human members of kingdom Animalia. We are talking about- if we are different and more important than 'animals'. By the definition of important and intelligence- we are more so both those things than animals are.

A human baby develops morality, values, ideas about relationships and life, complex observations, etc, overtime.. But even at an infant level, the brain capacity is so far beyond any other 'animal' its ridiculous.

Even the dumbest human is more intelligent than animals... and idk what to say about mentally challenged people or people born without a functioning brain.

 

[Blackking]

it is because that humility keeps us in check and stops some of us from doing dangerous things to other animals, ourselves and our environment. Why you think people came up with god?

Came up with certain ideas of God(s) to explain life, death, disasters and to keeps us in check and stops some of us from doing dangerous things to other animals, ourselves and our environment.

Still doesn't explain what's behind some peoples propensity to want to down play their own species... and forcibly say we are nothing but apes or whatever.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Came up with certain ideas of God(s) to explain life, death, disasters and to keeps us in check and stops some of us from doing dangerous things to other animals, ourselves and our environment.

Still doesn't explain what's behind some peoples propensity to want to down play their own species... and forcibly say we are nothing but apes or whatever.

same reason people choose to believe in good. It is all part of humility. And our behavior is not like apes at all. We are more like chimps. The only people who act like apes are kings or very powerful men.

 

[Blackking]

same reason people choose to believe in good. It is all part of humility. And our behavior is not like apes at all. We are more like chimps. The only people who act like apes are kings or very powerful men.

lol, ok

 

[JAY?]

Animals live and die off basic instinct. We use our instincts, but we also are so aware of our health and immanent death that we try to prevent it and prolong life. The fact that we appreciate the complexities and beauty of the world and continuously explore Earth, as opposed to just existing in it, is a major difference.

Animals can recognize themselves and are aware of their own instinctual needs and existence.. however, we are aware of how we interact with this world, think about our existence, death, and analyze our situation to see how we can change our position in life.

How are u so sure what elephants and dolphins think?
How do u know what they think about life and death?
Maybe they're aware of a higher power and live righteously

 

[88m3]

Or are we all 1 and the same?
Are we more important?
Like if u believe in an afterlife, are they eligible?

If they follow Islam.
The one true religion.
Than yes.

 

[Blackking]

How are u so sure what elephants and dolphins think?
How do u know what they think about life and death?
Maybe they're aware of a higher power and live righteously

Do Elephants, chimpanzees, and Dolphins Think: Reflections on an Unfortunate Paradigm Shift in Ethology
Animal cognition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


But yes.... If they did follow a religion it would be Islam.

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

og slamion would say have a good day and keep it moving.

I want to be better than the old Slaimon.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

We were created in gods image not in the image of a animal. We were given dominion over these beasts but we still have a responsiblity to be nice to our animals because ultimately, we all die.

Genesis 1:28

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”



Proverbs 12:10

Whoever is righteous has regard for the life of his beast, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.

Ecclesiastes 3:19
For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity.