Do u see us different than animals?

[Dusty Bake Activate]

What animals have living a comfortable life on their agenda? Or .. creating music or saving endangered species.

I don't cite those things as accomplishments. I cite them as distinctions. On What planet is stating facts and differences between organisms considered arrogance?...
oh yea I forgot, this is HL where human innovation and ideas don't mean a damn thing, simply because a random happenstance-ass asteroid AG5 from o space hits Earths surface .. and but is actually the one that ends life on Earth- this means that technology doesn't mean sh1t. It's not guaranteed that Cockroaches would survive either.. but again, this is irrelevant.

Nobody said human accomplishments don't mean anything. Citing human accomplishments as if they somehow make humans not animals is retarded.

 

[Blackking]

Nobody said human accomplishments don't mean anything. Citing human accomplishments as if they somehow make humans not animals is retarded.

There's a reason that the colloquial usage of the word Animal refers to non-human members of kingdom Animalia,

We breath and feed on other living things so yea we are animals.. but let's not get retarded with the semantics. We can also communicate online, develop our ethics, and call people "retarded".

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

There's a reason that the colloquial usage of the word Animal refers to non-human members of kingdom Animalia,

We breath and feed on other living things so yea we are animals.. but let's not get retarded with the semantics. We can also communicate online, develop our ethics, and call people "retarded".

And birds don't need planes to fly. Dogs sense of smell remains vastly superior to ours etc.

You're making his point for him. You draw a line in the sand somewhere, that you're then free to move when you want/need it to.

Either we're animals or not, biology is not ambiguous in this case. Oh and certain apes have been taught to communicate 'online' as well, time to move that stick again..

 

[Blackking]

And birds don't need planes to fly. Dogs sense of smell remains vastly superior to ours etc.

You're making his point for him. You draw a line in the sand somewhere, that you're then free to move when you want/need it to.

Either we're animals or not, biology is not ambiguous in this case. Oh and certain apes have been taught to communicate 'online' as well, time to move that stick again..

Other primates can be taught to mimic human behavior.

Philosophers, researchers, biologist, and scientist have drawn the distinctions between animals being taught to do certain things and human propensity to change or modify the structure of their cognitive functioning to adapt to the changing demands of a life situation.

Yeah we can draw the lines anywhere in the sand; but I said lets not get retarded with the semantics. We all know the lines, you all are free to pretend to not know the difference- for no other reason than to fail to prove invalid points.

The fact that you bring up random physical abilities of organisms makes me feel like I shouldn't even respond to you. Dogs have superior smelling abilities due to the shape and characteristics of their nose.. Humans have the ability to study the anatomy of every part of canines and even use the dogs senses to locate drugs, bodies, and food.

Bird's don't need planes to fly? Breh, Birds don't know what a plane, lift, or engines are. Even the least intelligent non-human animals can travel.

Biology isn't ambiguous as far as humans being a part of the animal kingdom.. but there is a reason for categories such as ethology. Understanding our differences has expanded research and understanding, not limited it. You all don't see how chalking human intelligence up to something equivalent to us being 'just' animals and nothing more, is a very limit way of thinking. Luckily most researchers and people who study this sh1t for a living categorize and study it properly and don't settle for the we are 'just' animals pov.

What Is The Cognitive Rift Between Humans And Other Animals?

 

[Prodigital]

Interesting topic.

I think the things that separate humans from animals become null when you look at the necessity to do so. We are trained to communicate in a certain manner as well as navigate this planet in a certain way. BUT, even so you can't teach an animal to do what we do, they simply aren't capable. Whether that's do to difference in coordination and bodily lay out (upright bipedal, vocal cords, thumbs, etc.) or difference in brain structures, we know that animals can't do what humans do.

I think its means to classify us separate from animals if not by our potential difference alone. What I don't agree with is us being more important. Like it or not, maybe in a couple thousand years humans could go extinct from virus, war, or catastrophic event. This planet will go on to a different state and everything we've done and created will not matter to the forces of nature.. if not on this planet, in this solar system, and if not there to the galaxy and so on. We aren't that important.

Now spiritually speaking, there's no solid evidence of our significance. Even god left us to 'tend' this planet. And i don't buy in to animals not having souls just because they aren't intellectually capable. Being that there is a world beyond our eyesight, why would limits imposed by this reality effect what happens on that other side?

Food for thought tho.

 

[Blackking]

I think its means to classify us separate from animals if not by our potential difference alone. What I don't agree with is us being more important. Like it or not, maybe in a couple thousand years humans could go extinct from virus, war, or catastrophic event. This planet will go on to a different state and everything we've done and created will not matter to the forces of nature.. if not on this planet, in this solar system, and if not there to the galaxy and so on. We aren't that important.

Now spiritually speaking, there's no solid evidence of our significance. Even god left us to 'tend' this planet. And i don't buy in to animals not having souls just because they aren't intellectually capable. Being that there is a world beyond our eyesight, why would limits imposed by this reality effect what happens on that other side?

Food for thought tho.

Importance is based in prospective and opinion. Significance is as well. When thinking about multiple universes, no organism is important, but when comparing humans and other life forms on Earth there's no question on significance and difference.

I don't know if animals have souls. Most people in HL would agree humans don't have souls. I do know that in Islam humans are no more important (as far as respect goes) than animals due to the fact that all God's creations should be respected...Even when you consume animals, they should be killed in a certain way, not wasted, not killed for fun, and respected for their role in the food chain. In Islam mistreating animals or killing for sport is horrible behavior. Compassion towards animals is practiced in Islam.

Then again, Muhammad is said to have spoken with animals.. and that any human can communicate with anything that had a soul.

I would assume that a person who doesn't believe in souls at all would have a greater chance of not being compassionate towards animals, but then again African religious traditions, Hindus, Christian sects, and some other ones practice animal sacrifice.
I couldn't imagine an atheist sacrificing an animal.. especially if they believe that humans are on the same level as animals, besides our insignificant cognitive abilities.

 

[daze23]

There's a reason that the colloquial usage of the word Animal refers to non-human members of kingdom Animalia

yeah, because for the majority of history people have not though of humans as just animals. we also still say the "sun rises", when we know damn well that it's really the earth spinning. there's plenty of examples of 'colloquial' language being stuck in the past

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

What makes us recognizably human, then, is not what is natural about us but what is unnatural: reason and its projections in language, culture, ritual, and technology, self-awareness, conscious memory, imagination, and the higher emotions; and, most important, values, ethics, morals, and the freedom from nature’s determinism that allows us to choose, whether for good or ill. Nothing else in nature possesses any of these attributes, despite the wishful thinking of those who believe they are teaching chimps to “talk,” or who consider a monkey digging up termites with a stick to be “using tools,” or who label baboon rump-submission a “social practice,” or who subjectively interpret the behavior of animals to indicate the presence of “self-awareness” or higher human emotions such as love, grief, regret, guilt, shame, or loyalty. For every dog that howls over the body of its dead master there is another that, if necessary, will happily eat his corpse.

 

[mbewane]

Biologically, we're animals. Far more intelligent and powerful than any other animal on the planet, but still animals.



Please look up the definition of an animal. :disdain:

Biologically humans are classified as mammals. It's not really debatable. You could argue that humans are more important that other animals in many ways, but biologically we're very similar to other mammals.

This should've closed the thread tbh.

yeah, because for the majority of history people have not though of humans as just animals. we also still say the "sun rises", when we know damn well that it's really the earth spinning. there's plenty of examples of 'colloquial' language being stuck in the past

I never gave it any thought but it's funny how we still say that when you think about it

 

[Blue Ant]

insect superiority

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

insect superiority

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