Dirk Nowitzki passes Iverson on all time scoring list

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Did you even read what I said? I've made the case for why I rank Dirk over KG on both on :hamster: and on here on many occasions. I just don't feel like doing it again. I got shyt to do. You can't force an argument out of me on demand.

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A. You still can't read. I never said the 2006 team was full of "bums" or "had nobody." I said they were an average squad entering the postseason where Dirk did his work.
B. It's a thread about Dirk Nowitzki. And I'm bringing up Dirk's stats and accomplishments. And I'm a Mavericks fan. You're the one whoring out AI, dikkriding him into the sunset, but I got a dikk in my mouth? :beli:
C. Wait, so 2006 Mavs players "fitting into their roles," is straight, but 2001 76ers players "fitting into their roles," is a bum squad? :wtf:
D. I like how you didn't address anything in my previous post :win:


:umad: cause you don't have any bball knowledge or facts supporting AI other than to try and pathetically clown a Mavs/Dirk fan :smugbiden:

It's cool though. Not all players can hoist up 25+ shots a game, shoot 42% for their careers, and wash out of the league and play in China. :russ::jawalrus:

O I read just fine...your just RETARDED.......

the 2006 team was not AVERAGE compared to IVERSON's 2001 squad...if you can't tell by looking at the roster than your a clown..


I made my comment about AI how long ago??? and got how many daps :wow: you came in this thread after ME and PROCEEDED to quote me...so your the one who RAN in here to defend your lover

Ima a knicks fan so im unbiased unlike you who love having german dikk in your mouth


All teams need players to fit roles..soo stop your fukkery..I understand your alil slow so I'll try to help you understand... THE PLAYERS ON AI's team were LESS TALENTED than the players on DIRKS 2006 team... understand?? did I put that in slo mo enough for you?


and like I said we were discussing Ai 01 squad and Dirk 2006 squad that YOU brought up by saying they were just as average as iversons team...if you can't look at the players from those years and can't tell that that statement is false..than you just don't know bball...or your sucking off Dirk all day
 

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O I read just fine...your just RETARDED.......

the 2006 team was not AVERAGE compared to IVERSON's 2001 squad...if you can't tell by looking at the roster than your a clown..


I made my comment about AI how long ago??? and got how many daps :wow: you came in this thread after ME and PROCEEDED to quote me...so your the one who RAN in here to defend your lover

Ima a knicks fan so im unbiased unlike you who love having german dikk in your mouth


All teams need players to fit roles..soo stop your fukkery..I understand your alil slow so I'll try to help you understand... THE PLAYERS ON AI's team were LESS TALENTED than the players on DIRKS 2006 team... understand?? did I put that in slo mo enough for you?


and like I said we were discussing Ai 01 squad and Dirk 2006 squad that YOU brought up by saying they were just as average as iversons team...if you can't look at the players from those years and can't tell that that statement is false..than you just don't know bball...or your a sucking of Dirk all day

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Damn man, you getting DAPS!?!?!? Will you autograph my mousepad?! :heh:

I get that Dirk's team had more talent, but compared to the elite teams in the NBA at the time, his team was merely average. No big inside presence, no penetration, no floor general, no respected HC, pretty much nothing that teams really gameplanned for outside of Dirk himself. But at the end of the day, Dirk still managed to beat NBA Championship-caliber squads. AI didn't. :yeshrug:

And damn man, you should really learn how to read. I'll give you a few weeks til you can decipher what I wrote in my previous posts and this one.

Also, you seem to have a really weird obsession with dikks in mouths :wtf: Keep your weird ass fantasies to yourself, man. We're having a discussion about basketball here, not what you think about when you close your eyes and touch yourself :scusthov:









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Damn man, you getting DAPS!?!?!? Will you autograph my mousepad?! :heh:

I get that Dirk's team had more talent, but compared to the elite teams in the NBA at the time, his team was merely average. No big inside presence, no penetration, no floor general, no respected HC, pretty much nothing that teams really gameplanned for outside of Dirk himself. But at the end of the day, Dirk still managed to beat NBA Championship-caliber squads. AI didn't. :yeshrug:

And damn man, you should really learn how to read. I'll give you a few weeks til you can decipher what I wrote in my previous posts and this one.

Also, you seem to have a really weird obsession with dikks in mouths :wtf: Keep your weird ass fantasies to yourself, man. We're having a discussion about basketball here, not what you think about when you close your eyes and touch yourself :scusthov:









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stopped reading once you made my point...that is all

:whew: love being right


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So what's the argument for Dirk over KG again?

Vastly superior offensive player and scorer in the PO. Dirks games improves in all areas in the playoffs while KG's almost always goes down, particulary his efficiency. More equipped to carry a team. And a better career

KG blows as a scorer in the playoffs if we're judging him by 1st option standards. Had one playoffs over 25 PPG, 9 30 point playoff games, no 40 point games, crap efficiency for a big man etc. Dirk's 11 run to a title>>>>>>>>>>KG' 08 one

An all time great offensive anchor is far more valuable then an all time great defensive anchor of we're picking franchise guys. KG's an all time great defensive player but I can't take him over Dirk
 

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Vastly superior offensive player and scorer in the PO. Dirks games improves in all areas in the playoffs while KG's almost always goes down, particulary his efficiency. More equipped to carry a team. And a better career

KG blows as a scorer in the playoffs if we're judging him by 1st option standards. Had one playoffs over 25 PPG, 9 30 point playoff games, no 40 point games, crap efficiency for a big man etc. Dirk's 11 run to a title>>>>>>>>>>KG' 08 one

An all time great offensive anchor is far more valuable then an all time great defensive anchor of we're picking franchise guys. KG's an all time great defensive player but I can't take him over Dirk

Uhm, that's fine and all but..

I find it hilarious that it's basically common knowledge that defense wins championships yet every argument against Garnett always ends up in how many points he scored versus the player he's compared to. Yes, everyone knows Dirk scores more. He does it more efficiently.

But there's literally no other aspect of the game in which Dirk is as impactful as Garnett. Garnett is an all-time great rebounder at his peak, arguably the best passing big man of all-time and a top 5 defender to ever play the game. Think about it for a minute.

And Garnett hardly "blows" as a scorer in the playoffs. He's a career 19.5 ppg on 52.3 TS % in the playoffs. That hardly blows, he's probably around league average for his position efficiency wise, since it's around 53 TS % in the regular season, I would assume the overall efficiency actually goes down during the playoffs. Again, hardly blows.

And I disagree about Dirks playoff run being >>>>>>>>> KGs in 08. Just some food for thought, here are some facts about Garnetts playoff impact.

2008 Postseason (From basketballvalue: http://basketballvalue.com/teamplayers. ... 20playoffs )

The Celtics were +10.09 points /100 possessions when Garnett was on the court, but were -9.83 points/100 possessions when Garnett was off the court. So that's +19.92/100 possessions when Garnett was on-court vs when he was off. Hmm, remarkably similar to Nowitzki's esteemed 2011 playoff run.

2004 postseason (From 82games.com, though for some reason their older links are not available anymore. This was the url, though it no longer works: Minnesota Timberwolves NBA playoff stats and data from 82games.com )

The Timberwolves were +25.7 points/48 min with Garnett on the court vs when he was off.

Garnett is a ridiculous player impact wise and it's mind boggling that people stare themselves blind at "number of 40 point games" to judge players against eachother. KG's weakest part of his game... is his career average of 19 ppg on 55 TS % over 1299 games. Do you understand how ridiculous that is? :wtf:
 
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