Dirk Nowitzki passes Iverson on all time scoring list

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if they ain't black ball my son AI this would of never happened..lets be serious

Whoever dapped this :salute:......... atleast some ppl have respect for Ivo game and know how much of a talented player he was........


If you gotta problem with me saying if Ivo wasn't blackballed this would of never happened.....

Are you going to also tell me Dirk is more talented than Ivo?? :krs:

If Ivo played for somebody like Marc Cuban....who knows where he would of ended up on the all time scoring list but I'll tell you this...it would of been more than Dirk currently has
 

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You guys are idiots for constantly bringing up Iverson and stanning him like he's some untouchable player that Dirk couldn't have passed on the scoring list...

Yeah, cause he was awfully productive and scoring at will during those Memphis and Philly-reunion days :stopitslime:

I get it, though. BLACK EXCELLENCE. :comeon: Doesn't change the fact that one guy is one of the top jump shooters of all time and the other guy is a selfish volume shooter. Iverson might have more points now if he had played for a few years, but Dirk would still pass him up by the time he retired. You guys honestly think a late career Iverson averaging points in the low-mid teens, shooting low 40% (like he pretty much always did...) would hold up against a guy like Dirk?

Dirk ON ONE LEG THIS SEASON is starting to perform better than Iverson did his last 2 years in the league. :umad:
 

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Are you going to also tell me Dirk is more talented than Ivo?? :krs:

Are you going to tell me how AI is more talented than a guy who beat Aldridge, Kobe, Pau, Bynum, KD, Westbrook, Bosh, Wade, and LBJ en route to a Finals MVP? :pachaha: Please, I'm all ears!!

And don't even bring up "b-b-b-b-but AI carried a team to the 2001 NBA Finals!" Eastern Conference was so pathetic and watered down back then. It was literally the Raps with Vince, the Nets with Kidd, and the 76ers with AI. Eastern Conference was a joke.

Dirk carried the '06 Mavs, who had a starting 5 of DeSegana Diop, Adrian Griffin, Josh Howard, and Devin Harris to the Finals. So cut the ignorant talk about Iverson being the only guy to ever carry an average squad to a Finals. And Dirk actually ended up winning a ring. :shaq:

I respect AI for doing his thing. Really talented, and amazing for a guy only 6 foot tall to win a scoring title and be as prominent as he was. But Dirk is in the discussion for top 25 player ALL TIME, and AI doesn't even have a seat at the table.
 

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Are you going to tell me how AI is more talented than a guy who beat Aldridge, Kobe, Pau, Bynum, KD, Westbrook, Bosh, Wade, and LBJ en route to a Finals MVP? :pachaha: Please, I'm all ears!!

And don't even bring up "b-b-b-b-but AI carried a team to the 2001 NBA Finals!" Eastern Conference was so pathetic and watered down back then. It was literally the Raps with Vince, the Nets with Kidd, and the 76ers with AI. Eastern Conference was a joke.

Dirk carried the '06 Mavs, who had a starting 5 of DeSegana Diop, Adrian Griffin, Josh Howard, and Devin Harris to the Finals. So cut the ignorant talk about Iverson being the only guy to ever carry an average squad to a Finals. And Dirk actually won with his. :shaq:

I respect AI for doing his thing. Really talented, and amazing for a guy only 6 foot tall to win a scoring title and be as prominent as he was. But Dirk is in the discussion for top 25 player ALL TIME, and AI doesn't even have a seat at the table.


Do you think talent always triumph something else?? Do you know how much more of the basketball game is more than TALENT....Son Chris Duhon has a job in the NBA still...their are multiple pgs not in the league that are more talented than him......are you going to tell me Chris Duhon is more talented than them because he's in the league??


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Open your mind up since them ears open :russ:


edit this is dirk 06 finals team are you telling me the bolded were bums in 2006?? Were you actually watching basketball in 2006?? Cuz these dudes could play...and even Diop and Dampier filled their roles

Erick Dampier (Mississippi State)
SG 6 Marquis Daniels (Auburn University)
C 7 DeSagana Diop (Oak Hill Academy (VA))
SG/SF 44 Adrian Griffin (Seton Hall)
PG 34 Devin Harris (Wisconsin)
SF 5 Josh Howard (Wake Forest)
C 28 D.J. Mbenga (DR Congo /Belgium)
PF 41 Dirk Nowitzki – Captain (Germany)
F 21 Josh Powell (NC State)
G/F 42 Jerry Stackhouse (North Carolina)
PG 31 Jason Terry (Arizona)
F 2 Keith Van Horn


now you post the 76ers finals roster..and you tell me who had the better overall team.....I really want to see what you say......Ill be waiting......
 

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Those 76ers played in a watered down ECF. You're acting like AI had to go through prime Shaq, or prime Kobe, or prime Duncan, or prime ANYBODY other than Vince fukking Carter :mindblown:

Get off AI's dikk. He was nice, but he never went out and consistently beat quality teams. You just bolded all those guys, but tell me what any of those guys besides Jason Terry ever amounted to? Go ahead, I'll be waiting... I didn't say they were "bums," I said they were an "average squad." Which they were. Learn to read.:snoop:

Dirk's 06 team beat a nasty Suns team that had a prime Nash, prime Marion, and prime Amare. Dirk's 06 team beat a nasty Spurs team that had a prime Duncan, prime Parker, and prime Ginobli (defending champs). Dirk's 11 team beat an LA team that had a prime Gasol, prime Bynum, and a decent Kobe (back-to-back defending champs). Dirk's 11 team beat a Thunder team with an up-and coming KD, Harden, and Westbrook. DIRK'S 11 TEAM BEAT A HEAT TEAM WITH PRIME BOSH, PRIME WADE, AND PRIME LEBRON. Dirk's team was an underdog in ALL of those matchups, except the Suns, and even that is debateable... Nobody had them going to the Finals in any of those years, and most fans and experts had them losing in the 2nd round to the Spurs in 06 and in the 1st round to the Blazers in 11. Were you even watching playoff basketball these seasons, or were you still furiously masturbating to your Allen Iverson rookie card collection?

Please tell me whatever the fukk Iverson ever did in his MEANINGFUL career, other than beat a goddamn Raptors team that had Vince Carter in the Eastern Conference Semifinals... And don't bother posting some dumbass regular season matchups or stats... I'll be waiting...

And yeah, I totally get that there are a litany of other factors besides just pure talent that decide the outcome of sports. It's the reason why guys like Barkley, Malone, and Marino are ringless. But talent does play a big part, and it was clear to everybody that Dirk literally carried both of his teams, in 2006 and 2011 to the NBA Finals. There was no "luck" or other extraneous factors that played into that. It's clear, in the record and stats, that he played a much higher caliber of both teams and players in BOTH of his playoff runs than Iverson did in his ONE. And he beat them. The only team that Iverson ever played that was on the same level as those teams Dirk faced were the 2001 Lakers squad. And we know how that ended.

It didn't take much to get out of the Eastern Conference back in those days. This is evidenced by the fact the Nets came out and got absolutely demolished by the Lakers. In 2001, it was literally a 3 horse race between a 76ers squad that had AI and nobody else, a Raptors team that had only 2 double digit scorers (VC and Antonio Davis), and the Milwaukee Bucks (who arguably should have won the ECF, but that discussion is for another day). Big surprise that was the only season AI ever did anything in the postseason :comeon: Most people were poking fun at it, calling it the LEASTern Conference back in those days, but now AI stans want to act like it was some rigorous gauntlet he went through with his bum squad...

Dirk is only one of 4 guys (others being Hakeem, Bob Pettit, and Elgin Baylor) to average 25 points and 10 rebounds a game in the playoffs. EVER. Not even Duncan or Shaq are putting those kind of numbers up when it counts the most. I'm not saying Dirk is better than those dudes, but are you going to feed me some shyt about how "talent ain't got nothing to do with that"?

Fact of the matter is, Dirk comes up BIG in the biggest situations when his team needs him the most. AI had one miraculous playoff run in an Eastern Conference that was slightly more competitive than your typical NIT Bracket:pachaha: and was the posterboy for the "thug" era of basketball players. I get that he's going to be more liked and stanned on a hip-hop site, but it's completely baffling how people can try to argue that Iverson was more talented than Dirk. As Floyd Mayweather always says when being doubted by all the Pacquaio fanboys, the proof is in the pudding. Dirk's career >>>> AI's one playoff run.
 

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All the stanning of LeBron on these forums and nobody wants to talk about 2011 Finals :lolbron:


I'm a celtic fan so fukk 'em both breh

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Damn AI my boy had to be him though.

Thats a good look for Dirk though, when its all said and done, I think he is arguably a top 5 pf of all time :ld:
I don't think that's arguable. Top 3 is arguable. I got Duncan the gawd, the black redneck child rapist, then Dirk. He's slid past KG and Barkley imo.
 

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Those 76ers played in a watered down ECF. You're acting like AI had to go through prime Shaq, or prime Kobe, or prime Duncan, or prime ANYBODY other than Vince fukking Carter :mindblown:

Get off AI's dikk. He was nice, but he never went out and consistently beat quality teams. You just bolded all those guys, but tell me what any of those guys besides Jason Terry ever amounted to? Go ahead, I'll be waiting... I didn't say they were "bums," I said they were an "average squad." Which they were. Learn to read.:snoop:

Dirk's 06 team beat a nasty Suns team that had a prime Nash, prime Marion, and prime Amare. Dirk's 06 team beat a nasty Spurs team that had a prime Duncan, prime Parker, and prime Ginobli (defending champs). Dirk's 11 team beat an LA team that had a prime Gasol, prime Bynum, and a decent Kobe (back-to-back defending champs). Dirk's 11 team beat a Thunder team with an up-and coming KD, Harden, and Westbrook. DIRK'S 11 TEAM BEAT A HEAT TEAM WITH PRIME BOSH, PRIME WADE, AND PRIME LEBRON. Dirk's team was an underdog in ALL of those matchups, except the Suns, and even that is debateable... Nobody had them going to the Finals in any of those years, and most fans and experts had them losing in the 2nd round to the Spurs in 06 and in the 1st round to the Blazers in 11. Were you even watching playoff basketball these seasons, or were you still furiously masturbating to your Allen Iverson rookie card collection?

Please tell me whatever the fukk Iverson ever did in his MEANINGFUL career, other than beat a goddamn Raptors team that had Vince Carter in the Eastern Conference Semifinals... And don't bother posting some dumbass regular season matchups or stats... I'll be waiting...

And yeah, I totally get that there are a litany of other factors besides just pure talent that decide the outcome of sports. It's the reason why guys like Barkley, Malone, and Marino are ringless. But talent does play a big part, and it was clear to everybody that Dirk literally carried both of his teams, in 2006 and 2011 to the NBA Finals. There was no "luck" or other extraneous factors that played into that. It's clear, in the record and stats, that he played a much higher caliber of both teams and players in BOTH of his playoff runs than Iverson did in his ONE. And he beat them. The only team that Iverson ever played that was on the same level as those teams Dirk faced were the 2001 Lakers squad. And we know how that ended.

It didn't take much to get out of the Eastern Conference back in those days. This is evidenced by the fact the Nets came out and got absolutely demolished by the Lakers. In 2001, it was literally a 3 horse race between a 76ers squad that had AI and nobody else, a Raptors team that had only 2 double digit scorers (VC and Antonio Davis), and the Milwaukee Bucks (who arguably should have won the ECF, but that discussion is for another day). Big surprise that was the only season AI ever did anything in the postseason :comeon: Most people were poking fun at it, calling it the LEASTern Conference back in those days, but now AI stans want to act like it was some rigorous gauntlet he went through with his bum squad...

Dirk is only one of 4 guys (others being Hakeem, Bob Pettit, and Elgin Baylor) to average 25 points and 10 rebounds a game in the playoffs. EVER. Not even Duncan or Shaq are putting those kind of numbers up when it counts the most. I'm not saying Dirk is better than those dudes, but are you going to feed me some shyt about how "talent ain't got nothing to do with that"?

Fact of the matter is, Dirk comes up BIG in the biggest situations when his team needs him the most. AI had one miraculous playoff run in an Eastern Conference that was slightly more competitive than your typical NIT Bracket:pachaha: and was the posterboy for the "thug" era of basketball players. I get that he's going to be more liked and stanned on a hip-hop site, but it's completely baffling how people can try to argue that Iverson was more talented than Dirk. As Floyd Mayweather always says when being doubted by all the Pacquaio fanboys, the proof is in the pudding. Dirk's career >>>> AI's one playoff run.

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:whoa: Looks like you got Dirk's dikk all in your month... what did those player ever amount to??? Um maybe they fit the roles they were supposed to fit DUMBASS.........You wanted every member on that team to turn into a HOF because they got to the finals??? Some of them are still playing and have had successful careers

and YOU brought up the 2006 team..then when I pointed out they had players you bring up the 2011 team....Sir you are a CLOWN...why didn't you dispute the 2006 had no players like you said since you compared them to AI 2001 team...oo Cuz you'd look like a fuccing fool


Is Dirk your baby daddy??
 

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Lol.. don't expect anyone to take your opinions seriously if you can't even argue for them.

Did you even read what I said? I've made the case for why I rank Dirk over KG on both on :hamster: and on here on many occasions. I just don't feel like doing it again. I got shyt to do. You can't force an argument out of me on demand.
 

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:whoa: Looks like you got Dirk's dikk all in your month... what did those player ever amount to??? Um maybe they fit the roles they were supposed to fit DUMBASS.........You wanted every member on that team to turn into a HOF because they got to the finals??? Some of them are still playing and have had successful careers

and YOU brought up the 2006 team..then when I pointed out they had players you bring up the 2011 team....Sir you are a CLOWN...why didn't you dispute the 2006 had no players like you said since you compared them to AI 2001 team...oo Cuz you'd look like a fuccing fool


Is Dirk your baby daddy??

A. You still can't read. I never said the 2006 team was full of "bums" or "had nobody." I said they were an average squad entering the postseason where Dirk did his work.
B. It's a thread about Dirk Nowitzki. And I'm bringing up Dirk's stats and accomplishments. And I'm a Mavericks fan. You're the one whoring out AI, dikkriding him into the sunset, but I got a dikk in my mouth? :beli:
C. Wait, so 2006 Mavs players "fitting into their roles," is straight, but 2001 76ers players "fitting into their roles," is a bum squad? :wtf:
D. I like how you didn't address anything in my previous post :win:


:umad: cause you don't have any bball knowledge or facts supporting AI other than to try and pathetically clown a Mavs/Dirk fan :smugbiden:

It's cool though. Not all players can hoist up 25+ shots a game, shoot 42% for their careers, and wash out of the league and play in China. :russ::jawalrus:

Are you another poor soul that can't sport your 76ers AI gear your grandmama bought you cause he's playing Bolivia now?
 
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